College Students... question

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

henryay

Senior member
Aug 14, 2002
293
0
0
We only get $10 a semester. I remember a few years back where everyone printed like crazy, paper was everywhere.
 

Mayfriday0529

Diamond Member
Sep 15, 2003
7,187
0
71
Originally posted by: tokamak
Here its 10 cents a page in the libraries for printouts and copies. Many individual departments give their students a certain number of free pages in their departmental labs, though. My g/f is an engineer and gets 1000, I think, in the engineering lab. I am a physics major, and we get none. You are also allowed 500 mb of public computer bandwidth per week, go over and you have to buy more.

The people that run the University of Texas firmly believe that it is a for-profit corporation. My tuition has just about doubled in the 4 years that I've been here.


500mb of bandwidth...? how do they control that?
We don't get that, in fact, i find the sign in process to get a computer in the library is a joke!
You show your ID, they scan it and give you this stupid laminated piece of paper with a number. Then you sit wherever you want and you don't have to sign in or anything.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
21,330
1
81
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Is it just me or is something that trivial a damn joke....

$40000+ for your education and they cant provide paper....

At my college there are approximately 30,000 undergrads and grads. If printing was free in the library and labs, I can almost guarantee you that kids would easily print out 1000 pages each over a semester.

Hell, in my Economics class alone, on my own printer, I printed out over 200 pages in PDFs in one semester, and that was with 3 slides per page. If I did 1 per page (which I would've if it was free) I'd wind up printing 600 pages just for that class. There were at least 400 people in my Econ class.

Not to mention the students and teachers that would print out all sorts of junk, manuals, and notes.

See how easily free printing would get out of hand?

30,000 students * 1,000 pages * 10cents a page (factoring in ink, paper, and toner) = $3 million in printing costs per year.
 

Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
18,378
1
0
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Gibson486
My school is catching on.....my freshman year, we used to just print stuff in teh common areas of teh libary and avoid the long lines at the computer lab. Now you need to pay for those copies....although...I have found that if you find the correct print driver, you can just hook your computer to the back of teh printer via USB port and not wait in line anymore I think they are catching on to that too......looks like i have to wait in the long lines in the computer lab.

How many times can you write "teh" in such a small paragraph? It's not cool anymore. It never was; for that matter.

it was never cool, i type it that way compleantly accedently almost every time, i type really fast and always get ahead of myself with the


I never thought it was cool. I never undersatnd why people did it purposely. It's a habit i will never break.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
11,115
814
136
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Gibson486
My school is catching on.....my freshman year, we used to just print stuff in teh common areas of teh libary and avoid the long lines at the computer lab. Now you need to pay for those copies....although...I have found that if you find the correct print driver, you can just hook your computer to the back of teh printer via USB port and not wait in line anymore I think they are catching on to that too......looks like i have to wait in the long lines in the computer lab.

How many times can you write "teh" in such a small paragraph? It's not cool anymore. It never was; for that matter.

In the same manner, it's not cool to improperly use a semicolon. :roll:
 

archcommus

Diamond Member
Sep 14, 2003
8,115
0
76
My school used to offer free printing from your dorm, but then they stopped allowing that because they spent over 40 grand last year just on toner and paper. So now the rule is, you can still print for free, but you have to go to the public computers by the printers to do it.
 

Mayfriday0529

Diamond Member
Sep 15, 2003
7,187
0
71
Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
nope.. own printer FTW
Not FTW...ink is damn expensive. Using school's toner FTW is more like it.


I have a laser printer at home.. but hey i get 400 free at school, might as well use it.
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
26,389
1,778
126
I'm the guy that got charged with finding a good pay-to-print company to police this for my university. I selected GoPrint to do the task and they just hired some guy to run install and run the product in our labs.

I'm pretty sure they're taking away any "credits" and forcing everyone to pay $.05 a sheet or something to help pay for the paper, toner, pay-to-print software, computers, servers, and the position of the guy that runs the equipment. The biggest abuse of this is the professors telling everyone to print their syllabus and grades from online. It made the printer costs jump through the roof as soon as we put everything online.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
65,469
5
76
I think they oughta charge college kids a per megabyte charge for network usage.

-edit-
same concept, use more pay more.
 

amdskip

Lifer
Jan 6, 2001
22,530
13
81
We still have free printing but next year it probably won't be free. The lab machines are all setup on an active directory so it's easy to track everyone.
 

american trash

Junior Member
Oct 5, 2005
23
0
0
engineers get 50 free pages per semester, don't know about the rest of the school.
I always print stuff while i'm at work if i can (on campus) - Fo Free!!
 

Injury

Lifer
Jul 19, 2004
13,066
2
81
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Is it just me or is something that trivial a damn joke....

$40000+ for your education and they cant provide paper....

It isn't that they want to make profit on paper or don't want to foot the bill, the idea is that it is a deterrent from people printing out stupid bullcrap left and right and hogging up university resources while people are waiting for legitimate work.

My school just recently instituted a 10 cents per page policy in all open labs. There is swipe card access to labs for the various programs that give people who need the usage of printers free access in the specific labs. For instance, since I'm a Computer Graphics major, I can use my swipe card to get into the graphics labs where there are color laser printers. When I login to the computer and print things, it tracks how much I'm printing. There is no limit, but if you are caught making excessive prints without a professor's blessing, your access to the lab is revoked and your account is locked. Studnets in programs that don't rely on computer usage can only access the open labs.

They put this entire policy in place after a guy had printed out entire mySpace pages and used up all 3 paper trays on 2 different printers in the labs. How the hell he did that, I don't know. Why... i really don't want to know. I guess he had so many mySpace friends that he couldn't sit there and read the comments... wanted to take them with him or something. Either way, I don't care because with program-specific lab access, I don't need to use the open labs.
 

Acanthus

Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
19,915
2
76
ostif.org
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Is it just me or is something that trivial a damn joke....

$40000+ for your education and they cant provide paper....

It isn't that they want to make profit on paper or don't want to foot the bill, the idea is that it is a deterrent from people printing out stupid bullcrap left and right and hogging up university resources while people are waiting for legitimate work.

My school just recently instituted a 10 cents per page policy in all open labs. There is swipe card access to labs for the various programs that give people who need the usage of printers free access in the specific labs. For instance, since I'm a Computer Graphics major, I can use my swipe card to get into the graphics labs where there are color laser printers. When I login to the computer and print things, it tracks how much I'm printing. There is no limit, but if you are caught making excessive prints without a professor's blessing, your access to the lab is revoked and your account is locked. Studnets in programs that don't rely on computer usage can only access the open labs.

They put this entire policy in place after a guy had printed out entire mySpace pages and used up all 3 paper trays on 2 different printers in the labs. How the hell he did that, I don't know. Why... i really don't want to know. I guess he had so many mySpace friends that he couldn't sit there and read the comments... wanted to take them with him or something. Either way, I don't care because with program-specific lab access, I don't need to use the open labs.

That is a good system actually, as long as the people that have legitimate use get it for free i have no issues with smacktards paying to print out their crap.
 

hdeck

Lifer
Sep 26, 2002
14,530
1
0
if you have an account with a specific department you can get free printing sometimes. otherwise it's 10 cents a page black & white at the library.
 

Scarpozzi

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
26,389
1,778
126
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Is it just me or is something that trivial a damn joke....

$40000+ for your education and they cant provide paper....

It isn't that they want to make profit on paper or don't want to foot the bill, the idea is that it is a deterrent from people printing out stupid bullcrap left and right and hogging up university resources while people are waiting for legitimate work.

My school just recently instituted a 10 cents per page policy in all open labs. There is swipe card access to labs for the various programs that give people who need the usage of printers free access in the specific labs. For instance, since I'm a Computer Graphics major, I can use my swipe card to get into the graphics labs where there are color laser printers. When I login to the computer and print things, it tracks how much I'm printing. There is no limit, but if you are caught making excessive prints without a professor's blessing, your access to the lab is revoked and your account is locked. Studnets in programs that don't rely on computer usage can only access the open labs.

They put this entire policy in place after a guy had printed out entire mySpace pages and used up all 3 paper trays on 2 different printers in the labs. How the hell he did that, I don't know. Why... i really don't want to know. I guess he had so many mySpace friends that he couldn't sit there and read the comments... wanted to take them with him or something. Either way, I don't care because with program-specific lab access, I don't need to use the open labs.
The other major problem is that University budgets are funky. We can't use technology fee money here to pay for things like paper...they can only be used for equipment or people... That means, departmental budgets cover paper....but the department that covers most computer labs is the IT budget. Yet, IT isn't who's assigning the work for classes, etc...it's the colleges. (english, math, etc) So there's a big gap in the budgeting and we have to foot the bill. Thus, we charge to cover ourselves. The worst scenario is when Xerox or a similar company comes in and charges x dollars per month for 3000 copies on a printer.... Since it's leased equipment, if the print jobs go over that, they are billed at a higher rate like $.05 per sheet or $.13 per sheet.... that adds up fast. I know a lab that got hit with 3 months of $4000 in extra printing costs per month. How do you justify $12k out of your budget for just paper/toner because of a leasing agreement issue. It sucks.
 

kukyfrope

Senior member
Mar 21, 2005
344
0
0
Yes, at KU we get $8.00 worth of printing for free at 8 cents per page. My guess is most people never use the entire $8.00 so the school can keep charging them. Same with the dorm students and their meal plan includes $100-200 of money that can be spent in on-campus eating locations... no carry over and if it's still there at semester end the University gets it. More profit for nothing.
 

LordUnum

Golden Member
Jul 3, 2001
1,153
0
0
140 pages/week limit at the computer lab. 10/cents a copy at the school's library I think... guess where I print?
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |