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[MaxisOne]

I just stepped up from a 7800GTX to a 7900GTX and let me say.. the 7900GTX has given me the most grief ever.

Card is suffering from

Loss of signal after closing Games (Ut2004 and Microsoft Flight Simulator)
Artifacting (Quake 4)
Failing to properly run 3DMark 06 (Final Test)
Random lockups and slowdowns

Now ... When i was running my 7800GTX w ACS (factory overclocked) I had ABSOLUTLELY NO PROBLEMS .. not even 1 and im not exaggerating. Ive noticed that these problems with the 7900 series is widespread as the very same problems are popping up at all the major hardware forums and reseller forums. Some people are on their fourth RMA and they still have problems. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?? and Why arent the Major review Sites bringing This issue to Nvidias attention and to the rest of the buying public?
Ive visited this website and THG's website on a daily basis for years and i highly value the reviews on the site but after this hoopla im going to have to take a dim view in regards to the independence of review sites.. Its issues like these that should be reviewed as well ... NOT JUST PERFORMANCE BENCHMARKS.


Im appealing to the powers that be on this website.. If you dont think that theres something wrong with the 7900GT/GTX series and their stability... Clear the air and review its stability. These problems are waaaaay too similar and widespread to be a random dud card.

Thank You

 

[xtknight]

Probably a batch of corrupted BIOSes.

 

[vanvock]

No prob with my XFX

 

[MaxisOne]

I didnt say EVERYONE had a Problem ... but alot are .. So have fun with your Card and hopefully the others among us WHO DO have problems can get a FIX. Or some aknowledgement that there IS a problem.

 

[toyota]

there have been way too many issues with the 7 series. i have never had a bad video card till my BFG 7600gt. just go to evga forums or hardforum.com and look at all the issues.

 

[EffeX]

ATi X1900 XTX dont have any problems....RMA it and buy one. The most oced 7900 GTX just cant keep up with stock X1900 XTX.

 

[Cookie Monster]

IF a person have RMAd their card for 4 time, isnt it logical that the problems lies not on the card, but just maybe on your other components, e.g PSU?

Another is the drivers your using? did you get rid of your previous drivers with driver cleaner? are you using a beta driver?

Secondly, the X1900XTX do also have problems. ALL cards have problems. No hardware is bug free.

Thirdly, Maybe just maybe the reviewers didnt come across ANY problems? if they do they always write down these problems. THG isnt a very credible site, i would say techreport/xbitlabs/hothardware/beyond3d/maybe AT are good review sites, and they always include stablity issues.

Fourth, just RMA your card. Why not plug in your card at your friends place?

 

[ronnn]

Just was reading a couple of threads on Hocp about this. Still trying to figure out if nv has a problem or if this is a novel form of viral marketing? If true, all those rma's must be hard on the bottom line.

 

[SilentRunning]

Originally posted by: ronnn
Just was reading a couple of threads on Hocp about this. Still trying to figure out if nv has a problem or if this is a novel form of viral marketing? If true, all those rma's must be hard on the bottom line.

Novel how?

do you mean:

a. Nvidia is engaged in viral marketing flaws in their own cards to decrease sales and therefore increase apparent supplies.

or

b. ATI is engaged in viral marketing flaws in Nvidia's cards. (Of course this wouldn't be "novel" because, well, Rollo has already set a standard which is hard to surpass)




Personally I think most hardware problems are user related. People ignore static, have flakey or underpowered power supplies, run buses out of spec, have improper cooling, don't condition the power coming into their computer, ...

 

[josh6079]

Originally posted by: SilentRunning

Originally posted by: ronnn
Just was reading a couple of threads on Hocp about this. Still trying to figure out if nv has a problem or if this is a novel form of viral marketing? If true, all those rma's must be hard on the bottom line.

Novel how?

do you mean:

a. Nvidia is engaged in viral marketing flaws in their own cards to decrease sales and therefore increase apparent supplies.

or

b. ATI is engaged in viral marketing flaws in Nvidia's cards. (Of course this wouldn't be "novel" because, well, Rollo has already set a standard which is hard to surpass)




Personally I think most hardware problems are user related. People ignore static, have flakey or underpowered power supplies, run buses out of spec, have improper cooling, don't condition the power coming into their computer, ...

While I agree with you, I also see ronnn's view in that too many people are complaining about them, the same people who don't have problems with other cards. I mean, some people just exchange the vc's in their systems and not anything else, so already your getting complaints when just exchaning one variable. Either your right, and there are a lot of people who slap systems together without taking some things into enough consideration, or there is actually a problem with some of the cards, or there is viral marketing.

I remember a lot of people who went from the 7800GT to the 7900GT still had problems, especially with artifacting at stock and stuff. Those two cards weren't much different and people still had some problems. I believe their might have been a bad batch or something. Maybe an improper bios for the initial release or something.

 

[akshayt]

Should I go with a 7900GTX then or even a 7900GT

Coz 1800XT maybe not be available in my country at a price lower than 7900GT or maybe higher
1900XT may cost about 200$ more for nor is it only expensive but also requires more power which my Antec SL450 may fail to supply

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

It's a well known issue with the 7900 series of cards ESPECIALLY the OC eVGA cards. There is another thread on here that talks about this as well as a long thread over at eVGA boards about this as well.

FWIW, I had no such issues with my eVGA 7900GT CO.

 

[akshayt]

I will either go with Leadtek or XFX.

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: akshayt
I will either go with Leadtek or XFX.

Well ASUS probably makes the best quality cards but they are also the most expensive.

 

[akshayt]

1) In India you don't get much warranty that easily and there can be warranty issues as well.

2)In a recent round up of 7900GTs, Asus was rock bottom, with XFX taking the lead of about 10-15% from Asus.

Asus is no longer the best nor famous for its cards. Nobody buys its stuff and in India they are often priced equal to other brands.
I have heard that they had problem with 6600GT as well, now thier 7900GT is performing like crap, their 9800Pro's also didn't have compatibility, now for 3 consecutive generations, Asus shines forth with problems, who the hell will buy it then.

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: akshayt
1) In India you don't get much warranty that easily and there can be warranty issues as well.

2)In a recent round up of 7900GTs, Asus was rock bottom, with XFX taking the lead of about 10-15% from Asus.

Asus is no longer the best nor famous for its cards. Nobody buys its stuff and in India they are often priced equal to other brands.
I have heard that they had problem with 6600GT as well, now thier 7900GT is performing like crap, their 9800Pro's also didn't have compatibility, now for 3 consecutive generations, Asus shines forth with problems, who the hell will buy it then.

? Doesn't change the fact they their cards are arguably of the higest QUALITY. eVGA & XFX may do a lot of overclocking for their cards and have better warranties but quality wise ASUS is superior.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Leadtek is the best.

 

[josh6079]

Toyotas are the best!!

Oh, wait....uh....I mean.....

I had some evga 7800GT's and they overclocked like MAD. But, I also loved my XFX 6600GT, and since they offer the double lifetime warranty, it doesn't matter if their quality is or isn't as good as Asus since they overclock well, you can buy them used once and still be covered, and if the quality ever fails (meaning if the card does break) you can send it in for a replacement.

 

[pakigang]

Originally posted by: akshayt
1) In India you don't get much warranty that easily and there can be warranty issues as well.

2)In a recent round up of 7900GTs, Asus was rock bottom, with XFX taking the lead of about 10-15% from Asus.

Asus is no longer the best nor famous for its cards. Nobody buys its stuff and in India they are often priced equal to other brands.
I have heard that they had problem with 6600GT as well, now thier 7900GT is performing like crap, their 9800Pro's also didn't have compatibility, now for 3 consecutive generations, Asus shines forth with problems, who the hell will buy it then.

Just bought an Asus EN7900GT 256MB for a price less than leadtek & XFX in dubai & it play good with SS2 & Doom3 ROE (4xAA & 16xAF @ 1600*1200) & I haven't even voltmod it. XFX & Leadtek were 1650AED & I got Asus for 1400AED

 

[buzzsaw13]

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1
It's a well known issue with the 7900 series of cards ESPECIALLY the OC eVGA cards. There is another thread on here that talks about this as well as a long thread over at eVGA boards about this as well.

FWIW, I had no such issues with my eVGA 7900GT CO.

I've read a lot of things about the card not getting enough voltage for the clocks (stock should be 1.2V)

I know EVGA released a bios to help solve the problem, not quite sure if it works since I never had a problem with my card, but it did make my card default at 550/790

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: SilentRunning

Novel how?

do you mean:

a. Nvidia is engaged in viral marketing flaws in their own cards to decrease sales and therefore increase apparent supplies.

or

b. ATI is engaged in viral marketing flaws in Nvidia's cards. (Of course this wouldn't be "novel" because, well, Rollo has already set a standard which is hard to surpass)



Personally I think most hardware problems are user related. People ignore static, have flakey or underpowered power supplies, run buses out of spec, have improper cooling, don't condition the power coming into their computer, ...

There is not agenda, just a lot of 7900 cards dying.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1053731

About 20% of users in this poll have had a card die on them. Thats far above average.

 

[Ryan Norton]

Check out

http://evga.com/community/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15045

I had a ton of issues with the EVGA 7900GTX EGS (non-factory OC) I received from StepUp. EVGA got me a replacement card super fast that I haven't had probs with, so my fingers are crossed...

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Maybe just maybe the reviewers didnt come across ANY problems?

Sometimes I don't think reviewers "live with" a product long enough to encounter the sundry problems that end users will encounter.

 

[MaxisOne]

Everyone here is posting "Well it could be the PSU" .. PULEEEZE !!!... Ive Swapped this Card in more than Enough Boxes with various quality PSU's to KNOW that The PSU isnt the problem. As well as other people on other forums. Test suggestion ... Loop the last 3dMark06 deep freeze test for a couple of hours (especially with the 7900GTX EGS .. Stock settings) and see what happens.

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1

Originally posted by: akshayt
1) In India you don't get much warranty that easily and there can be warranty issues as well.

2)In a recent round up of 7900GTs, Asus was rock bottom, with XFX taking the lead of about 10-15% from Asus.

Asus is no longer the best nor famous for its cards. Nobody buys its stuff and in India they are often priced equal to other brands.
I have heard that they had problem with 6600GT as well, now thier 7900GT is performing like crap, their 9800Pro's also didn't have compatibility, now for 3 consecutive generations, Asus shines forth with problems, who the hell will buy it then.

? Doesn't change the fact they their cards are arguably of the higest QUALITY. eVGA & XFX may do a lot of overclocking for their cards and have better warranties but quality wise ASUS is superior.

What the heck are you babbling about? ASUS has less performance and less warranty coverage. The poster you quoted mentioned also how unreliable they are and you say "Doesn't change the fact that their cards are arguably of the best QUALITY..."?

I don't get it.