norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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This video of Rudy Giuliani on CNN is from October 26th.

This is FMITA level.

 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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fun fact: one of the FBI's twitter accounts that hadn't posted in over a year, reactivated on Nov 1, 2016 to post stuff on Clinton-era scandals like Mark Rich.

it hasn't posted anything since election day.
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Yeah, FBI rigged it for Trump. Now they can enjoy watching the US damaged, knowing that they are the ones who caused it.
 

momeNt

Diamond Member
Jan 26, 2011
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FBI is a Russian intelligence organization. What more proof do you need?
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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Just found out Rudy Giuliani is about to get in some very deep shit. This is certainly why he just withdrew from the race for Secretary of State.

 
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Just found out Rudy Giuliani is about to get in some very deep shit. This is certainly why he just withdrew from the race for Secretary of State.


How about posting a source instead of just an image? From what it looks like, it's just a group filing a complaint about Giuliani with the FBI.

He could have withdrawn for a number of other reasons. Giuliani is a dirt bag with a lot of skeletons in his closet.
 
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How about posting a source instead of just an image? From what it looks like, it's just a group filing a complaint about Giuliani with the FBI.

He could have withdrawn for a number of other reasons. Giuliani is a dirt bag with a lot of skeletons in his closet.

He has some Russian connections, something about his consulting. Dirt Bag is a bit tough.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Of course.

Also, do you think that video footage of Trump making those comments with Billy Bush was just suddenly found?

These things that are released are coordinated and planned. It is not a coincidence that they're released a few days before the election.

It always is that way and will be.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
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Of course.

Also, do you think that video footage of Trump making those comments with Billy Bush was just suddenly found?

These things that are released are coordinated and planned. It is not a coincidence that they're released a few days before the election.

It always is that way and will be.

There is a bit of a difference when it's a private business (NBC) performing a hit compared to a branch of law enforcement (FBI) doing it.

That being said, still amusing when people pretend the media coverage of Trump only helped him and that it somehow proves the MSM is fair and unbiased.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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Of course.

Also, do you think that video footage of Trump making those comments with Billy Bush was just suddenly found?

These things that are released are coordinated and planned. It is not a coincidence that they're released a few days before the election.

It always is that way and will be.

There is a bit of a difference when it's a private business (NBC) performing a hit compared to a branch of law enforcement (FBI) doing it.

That being said, still amusing when people pretend the media coverage of Trump only helped him and that it somehow proves the MSM is fair and unbiased.

Furthermore it wasnt "planned" to release the Billy Bush video, that video was found in the archives of Entertainment Tonight or whatever show it was, and NBC purposely shut it down, and was refusing to release the video in any form or any way. It was after that that some anonymous worker at Entertainment Tonight leaked the video to the Washington Post, and we all know how it went down from there.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
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And it was pure coincidence that they found it a month before election day? I thought NBC only wanted to protect Billy Bush, but still planned on releasing the relevant parts with Trump.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Comey was only doing his job. Hillary lost because of Hillary. She did not appeal to middle America and that cost her the election.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Comey was only doing his job. Hillary lost because of Hillary. She did not appeal to middle America and that cost her the election.

Polls showed a massive swing toward Trump after the Comey letter. I don't care who it helped or hurt, but the actions of the FBI in the final weeks of the campaign should scare anyone and the people involved should at a minimum lose their jobs. Especially considering it wasn't just the letter, but the "charges coming soon on Clinton Foundation" when there wasn't even an investigation and the random twitter release of Bill Clinton investigations from 15 years ago. It was like after the Comey letter every FBI agent with a beef thought they could go tell the media anything they wanted for that week.
 

nageov3t

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Comey was only doing his job. Hillary lost because of Hillary. She did not appeal to middle America and that cost her the election.
Comey's job didn't require him to write a vaguely worded letter open to interpretation before even reading a single one of the newly discovered emails.

the whole point of having protocols like not interfering in an election is to guide actions when they might otherwise be conflicted.

yes, you can obviously make the case that if Hillary was running a better campaign, the poll hit she suffered after the Comey letter wouldn't have been fatal, but in a close election it undoubtedly helped sink her.
 

MrSquished

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Jan 14, 2013
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Comey's job didn't require him to write a vaguely worded letter open to interpretation before even reading a single one of the newly discovered emails.

the whole point of having protocols like not interfering in an election is to guide actions when they might otherwise be conflicted.

yes, you can obviously make the case that if Hillary was running a better campaign, the poll hit she suffered after the Comey letter wouldn't have been fatal, but in a close election it undoubtedly helped sink her.

This . The email thing sunk Hillary. Period .
 

agent00f

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Trumpsters don't care how they win as long as they win. Liberals love meeting these people in the middle.
 
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This . The email thing sunk Hillary. Period .

I want to add her inability to confront the email issue with people. She did a great job at the hearings, why she was unable to talk to news casters about it is what kept the scandal alive. I don't think I saw Hillary interviewed more than a handful of times, Trump faced every issue that came up, Trump perpetually spoke with reporters even if it was for one question.
 
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ivwshane

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I want to add her inability to confront the email issue with people. She did a great job at the hearings, why she was unable to talk to news casters about it is what kept the scandal alive. I don't think I saw Hillary interviewed more than a handful of times, Trump faced every issue that came up, Trump perpetually spoke with reporters even if it was for one question.

She had trouble with it because, unlike her husband, trump, Bernie, or even Obama, she's not a very good politician and she's not able to spin as easily and pivot away from the discussion. When trump was asked questions about damning topics he simply lied or deflected and he would continue doing so until the subject was changed or the reporter/journalist dropped the question. When the same was done to Hillary she was unable to deflect.
 

jammix

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And they never come clean on the 1992 election where Bush was indicted the WEEKEND before the election. Clinton won of course - karma may be in effect. But the fact is - she is a terrible person, most likely a felon (assuming ANY of the things they have released are true), and a Constitutional nightmare - because she believes ALL Amendments are available to be restricted.
 

Bowfinger

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She had trouble with it because, unlike her husband, trump, Bernie, or even Obama, she's not a very good politician and she's not able to spin as easily and pivot away from the discussion. When trump was asked questions about damning topics he simply lied or deflected and he would continue doing so until the subject was changed or the reporter/journalist dropped the question. When the same was done to Hillary she was unable to deflect.
Indeed. That's the bitter irony for H. Clinton. One of her bigger problems is she tries to be too honest, in a nuanced, legalistic way. Our media, especially our broadcast media, hate nuance. It doesn't sell well, and most Americans -- fed a steady diet of sound bites and memes -- can't digest it. Clinton would have been far more effective had she adopted Donnie's strategy of bold, shameless lies, always. His flock loved him for it.
 
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Bowfinger

Lifer
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Well there's a new one for me!
Of course. The narrative within the bubble is that Clinton is the biggest liar EVAR!!!! (The best defense is a good offense, you know, and Trump is a pathological liar.) Nonetheless, fact checkers consistently showed Clinton to be more honest overall than any of her GOP opponents. (This is why the bubble also worked so hard to smear fact checking.) Clinton was certainly not perfect, but she was better.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Indeed. That's the bitter irony for H. Clinton. One of her bigger problems is she tries to be too honest, in a nuanced, legalistic way.

PELLEY:You know, in '76, Jimmy Carter famously said, "I will not lie to you."

CLINTON: Well, I have to tell you I have tried in every way I know how literally from my years as a young lawyer all the way through my time as secretary of state to level with the American people.

PELLEY:You talk about leveling with the American people. Have you always told the truth?

CLINTON:I've always tried to. Always. Always.

PELLEY:Some people are gonna call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself.

CLINTON:Well, no, I've always tried --

PELLEY:I mean, Jimmy Carter said, "I will never lie to you."

CLINTON:Well, but, you know, you're asking me to say, "Have I ever?" I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will. I'm gonna do the best I can to level with the American people.
 
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