Comey wiretap testimony/meets Congress

[Pens1566]

I don't think a "neither confirm nor deny" response is necessarily incriminating. Comey has consistently refused to discuss details of the investigation because it is ongoing. All we can infer from this is that evidently the FBI felt there was sufficient reason to allocate department resources to this investigation, and that the investigation is not over. Meaning they haven't reached a point where they feel they have exhausted every lead. Any other inferences are just spin on either side.

I'd agree it's reading tea leaves when considered in a vacuum. But we're not exactly in a vacuum here. You've got the FBI director on record as confirming there is an ongoing investigation of ~9 months involving a foreign power and possible members of admin/campaign. That length of time doesn't seem to indicate "exhausting leads" when paired with public statements of others involved. See statements from Page/Stone/etc. and Grassley/Feinstein/Schiff/etc.. Coupled with the response from Trump and crew and how they appear to be attempting to divert and get other people to shut it down.

Yeah, the leaves tend to read one way.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The DN


The DNC and their willing accomplices are going to keep feeding their partisan solders like yourself to keep the fake story alive. But not that long ago the possibility of a "Russian Hack" was completely dismissed by your obama:
During an interview with the Daily Show’s Trevor Noah, Barack Obama denounced the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process.

“We were frankly more concerned in the run up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of,” he admitted. “And we’re confident that we can guard against.”

More then likely the information breach was the result of a internal DNC leak. As far as obama's whispered statement to the Russians,
"flexibility to negotiate"...would require a separate investigation to find out what was "negotiated" and what he possibly "signed off on " and did he have the legal authority...what did congress know about the obama's "secret" negotiations" with the Russians??

You would be hard pressed to find people who believe I'm a partisan DNC soldier and that I have loyalty to any politician including Obama or Hillary. If that's the axiom you choose to operate under you will immediately be led to error.

Leaving personalities out of this, it would be hard to reconcile Comey being highly critical of Hillary then completely reverse loyalty and support the DNC by inventing Russian connections to the hacks.

It buggers the imagination.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That was reported on already back before the election. The gop was also hacked and it wasnt released.

I thought they were probed but according to the usual retards the hack failed because the RNC used strong passwords

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I thought they were probed but according to the usual retards the hack failed because the RNC used strong passwords

what, you mean like n9y25ah7 or Aqenbpuu ?

 

[mxnerd]

Donald Duck will never back down.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

what, you mean like n9y25ah7 or Aqenbpuu ?

I cannot confirm or deny

 

[woolfe9998]

I'd agree it's reading tea leaves when considered in a vacuum. But we're not exactly in a vacuum here. You've got the FBI director on record as confirming there is an ongoing investigation of ~9 months involving a foreign power and possible members of admin/campaign. That length of time doesn't seem to indicate "exhausting leads" when paired with public statements of others involved. See statements from Page/Stone/etc. and Grassley/Feinstein/Schiff/etc.. Coupled with the response from Trump and crew and how they appear to be attempting to divert and get other people to shut it down.

Yeah, the leaves tend to read one way.

My comment had to do with how you interpret Comey's "neither confirm nor deny" answers. I wasn't addressing wider context. But Comey's answers don't do anything to enhance the wider context. They really don't do anything at all. Comey confirmed that there was an ongoing investigation into the matter. Full stop. The only logical inference from that is that the FBI clearly thinks there are good reasons to allocate resources toward such an investigation, for whatever reason.

Now if you want to discuss context in terms of what is publicly known, I've made no secret of the fact that I strongly suspect collusion here. In my view, the crucial facts have to do with dishonesty and lack of candor from Trump and his people. Falsely denying that he specifically asked the RNC to soften its platform on Russia. Denying that any of his campaign staff had contacts with Russian officials. Denying that Russia was even responsible for the hacks after 17 intelligence agencies said they were. Many of these lies cannot be logically explained by anything but collusion. In my view.

 

[HomerJS]

The person we need to question is the author of the Trump dossier, Christopher Steele the ex-MI6 agent

 

[Pens1566]

My comment had to do with how you interpret Comey's "neither confirm nor deny" answers. I wasn't addressing wider context. But Comey's answers don't do anything to enhance the wider context. They really don't do anything at all. Comey confirmed that there was an ongoing investigation into the matter. Full stop. The only logical inference from that is that the FBI clearly thinks there are good reasons to allocate resources toward such an investigation, for whatever reason.

Now if you want to discuss context in terms of what is publicly known, I've made no secret of the fact that I strongly suspect collusion here. In my view, the crucial facts have to do with dishonesty and lack of candor from Trump and his people. Falsely denying that he specifically asked the RNC to soften its platform on Russia. Denying that any of his campaign staff had contacts with Russian officials. Denying that Russia was even responsible for the hacks after 17 intelligence agencies said they were. Many of these lies cannot be logically explained by anything but collusion. In my view.

I think we basically agree.

 

[Pens1566]

The person we need to question is the author of the Trump dossier, Christopher Steele the ex-MI6 agent

I thought I heard he was going to appear before one of the Intel committees. Maybe senate?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The person we need to question is the author of the Trump dossier, Christopher Steele the ex-MI6 agent

One of the Democrat members offered to go to England to meet him if he (Steele) was concerned to leave home.

 

[IGBT]

So then why is the fbi investigating right now? Will it all be a ploy by the dnc in the end?

Pure entertainment and "window dressing" for the DNC:

While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states.

“On January 6, 2017, the intelligence community assessment assessing Russian activities and intentions in recent US elections stated that the types of systems Russians actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying,” House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

One of the Democrat members offered to go to England to meet him if he (Steele) was concerned to leave home.

I may be wrong and hopefully someone would correct me, but I don't see how testimony can be taken to be admissible when there's no basis of a binding oath, Steele being a foreign national.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Pure entertainment and "window dressing" for the DNC:

While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states.

“On January 6, 2017, the intelligence community assessment assessing Russian activities and intentions in recent US elections stated that the types of systems Russians actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying,” House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said.

I agree that the language has been too loose and that it was right to clarify that no voting machines had been subverted. We moved past that pretty early on to Russian hacking of political organizations, a serious issue in its own right.

 

[JSt0rm]

Pure entertainment and "window dressing" for the DNC:

While many Democrats frequently say Russia “hacked” the presidential election, National Security Administration Director Adm. Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both confirmed today that Russian activities had no impact on tallying votes in states.

“On January 6, 2017, the intelligence community assessment assessing Russian activities and intentions in recent US elections stated that the types of systems Russians actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying,” House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes said.

So the dnc controls the fbi?

Also there is more to influencing an election then committing actual voter fraud. Like brain washing morons.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So the dnc controls the fbi?

Yes, this is why Comey didn't make any negative comments regarding Hillary before the election.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Yes, this is why Comey didn't make any negative comments regarding Hillary before the election.

Exactly! It would have been... what's the words I'm looking for here... extremely careless of him to do so.









edit: just in case.....

 

[woolfe9998]

I agree that the language has been too loose and that it was right to clarify that no voting machines had been subverted. We moved past that pretty early on to Russian hacking of political organizations, a serious issue in its own right.

The expression "hacked the election" has been used too loosely by some democrats. It's a shorthand. If you look at what these same dems using this phrase have said specifically, they are talking about hacking of dem organizations, not tampering with voting machines. Still, I agree that this phrase should not be used because it may imply something for which there is no evidence.

I've said it time and time again on this board in response to the various election rigging claims, most of which have come from Trump and has supporters. There is no evidence of election rigging, widespread voter fraud, or anything else of that nature. Not in the general election. Not in the primaries. Nowhere. It's wrong when Trump says it. It's wrong when dems say it. It's just flat out wrong.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I may be wrong and hopefully someone would correct me, but I don't see how testimony can be taken to be admissible when there's no basis of a binding oath, Steele being a foreign national.

I think it would be more of a fact finding mission like how did you come to your conclusions, what can be verified.
It would also be to drum up some D support too, let's not kid ourselves.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I agree that the language has been too loose and that it was right to clarify that no voting machines had been subverted. We moved past that pretty early on to Russian hacking of political organizations, a serious issue in its own right.

The purpose of saying no voting machines were compromised is to tow the Trump party line. He recently went on a twitter rage about no election tampering because none of the voting machines were tampered with (by Russia, he left liberal tampering as a possibility)

Edit: See it below

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-russia/ar-BBysl9p?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

 

[zinfamous]

Seeing how the flood or daily "Russia did it" stories quietly and utterly disappeared from news aggregators like news.google.com and news.yahoo.com late last week, I think it's safe to say where this is going. The DNC will have to explain to their KOOK liberal base that there was never any evidence the Russians did anything outside...
In 2012, President Obama was overheard over a hot microphone telling President Dmitri Medvedev of Russia he would have "more flexibility" to negotiate with Putin after the election.

Reality is never on the table when it comes to the DNC and the frothing at the mouth "liberals".

Are you somehow trying to argue that president Obama (as the authorized representative of US policy) being in a better position to negotiate after his 2nd inauguration, is somehow the same, (or in your famously deranged mind, worse) than citizen Trump trying to negotiate as a treasonous means to undermine US policy?

Is that what you are saying? Did you forget who was POTUS in 2012?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Any indication from either Comey or Rogers on when their investigation might be finished?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Any indication from either Comey or Rogers on when their investigation might be finished?

No, they made sure they did not box themselves in. One never knows when one lead develops into many and all followed up on.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Any indication from either Comey or Rogers on when their investigation might be finished?

Not that I heard. They were very cautious about details or implying details.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Thanks guys.