Comey wiretap testimony/meets Congress

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HomerJS

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and...the Libs love Comey once again. This too shall pass.
Fake post. Reality Comey isn't loved by either side. The information on the other hand is a different story no matter who presents it.
 
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Is Trump just going to move Fox News into the West Wing? Let the brainwashing continue. No wonder Trump supporters aren't that bright

Best thing I read about that screen cap is one of the "Moms" on that panel is rumored to work as a Republican consultant and "May" have done some work on Trumps campaign. I didn't see that segment so FOX may have stated that but I'm not sure.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Fake post. Reality Comey isn't loved by either side. The information on the other hand is a different story no matter who presents it.

The Left loved him when things landed their way and the same with the Right. That's how things generally work. People support those who back their position. Nothing insidious, it's just human nature.
 

HomerJS

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Gary Kasparov's take on the Republican contribution to the hearings. Worth a read...
The house is on fire, Trump is running around with a box of matches, and the GOP demands to know who called the fire department.
 

K1052

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The speed with which the administration and Trump's surrogates are trying to sprint away from Paul Manafort after Comey's testimony is interesting. They're borderline trying to create an alt-universe where he doesn't exist. CNN was straight up playing a clip montage of Trump and his campaign people singing Manafort's praises when surrogates tried to back up Spicer's assertion that his role was small and limited.

I can only presume there is something bad for Trump buried in that relationship and/or Manafort's contacts.
 

fskimospy

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The Left loved him when things landed their way and the same with the Right. That's how things generally work. People support those who back their position. Nothing insidious, it's just human nature.

That didn't happen though, as everything Comey did in regards to Clinton was wildly inappropriate. He was heavily criticized by the left for holding a press conference to criticize her and yet say the FBI wasn't pursuing any charges.

The left never loved him probably for many reasons, first of which would be that he consistently engaged in unethical behavior during the election, likely as a result of political pressure.
 

UNCjigga

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Going to Adm. Rogers, Nunes said, “Do you have any evidence that Russian actors changed vote tallies in the state of Michigan?” referring to a battleground state Hillary Clinton lost.

“No, I do not,” Rogers responded, before emphasizing the NSA is a foreign intelligence agency, and does not focus domestically.

“How about the state of Pennsylvania?” Nunes asked.

“No, sir,” Rogers responded.

“The state of Wisconsin?”

“No, sir,” Rogers said.

He gave similar answers when asked about vote tallying in Florida, North Carolina and Ohio.

Turning to Comey, Nunes said, “Do you have any evidence that the FBI that any votes were changed in the states I mentioned to Adm. Rogers?”

“No,” Comey responded.http://www.theamericanmirror.com/fbi-nsa-no-evidence-russia-manipulated-us-vote-tallying/
I'm pretty sure most left-leaning folk gave up on the "hacked voting machines" angle after it was debunked in December as Fake News...you'll always see a few outliers at the extremes making noise. I think most sensible Democrats believe Hillary still would've lost if there hadn't been any Russian shenanigans, because the right wingnuts had their lie machine spun up long before those Macedonian kids got involved (Breitbart, InfoWars, Rush...not Russian.)

Why do we care? I want to know if the Trump campaign colluded with Russian intelligence on any of the DNC/Podesta hacks, or even if they were given access to some of the leaked documents ahead of Wikileaks, as some folks seemed to have knowledge of it before those emails were released. Were any favors traded for access to those emails? That would be some Watergate-type shit right there, not to mention treason. I also want to know why Putin is so favorable of Trump, or why Trump speaks so highly of Putin. Is there anything there other than Trump is just a moron who can be easily manipulated, or Putin just hated Hillary that much? I don't believe in the "pee pee tape" but would like to know how invested Trump is in Russia either directly or indirectly.

But voting machines? I would welcome a law requiring all state voting machine vendors to open-source their code, but other than that, don't care.
 

hal2kilo

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The speed with which the administration and Trump's surrogates are trying to sprint away from Paul Manafort after Comey's testimony is interesting. They're borderline trying to create an alt-universe where he doesn't exist. CNN was straight up playing a clip montage of Trump and his campaign people singing Manafort's praises when surrogates tried to back up Spicer's assertion that his role was small and limited.

I can only presume there is something bad for Trump buried in that relationship and/or Manafort's contacts.
Yeah, so now we are being told Gen. Flynn was a volunteer. You just can't make up this shit. They definitely have something to hide.
 

Jhhnn

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I think most sensible Democrats believe Hillary still would've lost if there hadn't been any Russian shenanigans, because the right wingnuts had their lie machine spun up long before those Macedonian kids got involved (Breitbart, InfoWars, Rush...not Russian.)

I don't believe that at all. Publication of the DNC & Podesta email hacks were perfectly timed & exploited by Russian operatives as I linked earlier. They gave the Repub noise machine fresh ammo in the process. They were all over Hillary's fainting spell like stink on shit. Both Trump & the Russians brilliantly exploited social media in a new way. They buried Clinton under a tsunami of lies & innuendo, fear uncertainty & distrust. A big part of that was successfully concern trolling Bernie's supporters, many of whom still believe the lies planted in their heads at the time.
 

sdifox

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I'm pretty sure most left-leaning folk gave up on the "hacked voting machines" angle after it was debunked in December as Fake News...you'll always see a few outliers at the extremes making noise. I think most sensible Democrats believe Hillary still would've lost if there hadn't been any Russian shenanigans, because the right wingnuts had their lie machine spun up long before those Macedonian kids got involved (Breitbart, InfoWars, Rush...not Russian.)

Why do we care? I want to know if the Trump campaign colluded with Russian intelligence on any of the DNC/Podesta hacks, or even if they were given access to some of the leaked documents ahead of Wikileaks, as some folks seemed to have knowledge of it before those emails were released. Were any favors traded for access to those emails? That would be some Watergate-type shit right there, not to mention treason. I also want to know why Putin is so favorable of Trump, or why Trump speaks so highly of Putin. Is there anything there other than Trump is just a moron who can be easily manipulated, or Putin just hated Hillary that much? I don't believe in the "pee pee tape" but would like to know how invested Trump is in Russia either directly or indirectly.

But voting machines? I would welcome a law requiring all state voting machine vendors to open-source their code, but other than that, don't care.


Trump was the one pushing electoral fraud conspiracy.
 
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Yeah, so now we are being told Gen. Flynn was a volunteer. You just can't make up this shit. They definitely have something to hide.
Between Flynn and Manafort they are distancing themselves for something. Trump has access to just about all information out there. Not sure what info the investigators turn up he would have access too as one of the subjects but they are setting the table for something that they seem to know about.
 

hal2kilo

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Between Flynn and Manafort they are distancing themselves for something. Trump has access to just about all information out there. Not sure what info the investigators turn up he would have access too as one of the subjects but they are setting the table for something that they seem to know about.
What I've seen being reported is that Flynn and the Orange Don were practically inseparable during the campaign and that he was "a calming influence". Yea, he was probably confirming all of his paranoid delusions.
 
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Seems they are backing away from everyone. Now Carter Page who was a foreign policy adviser and J.D. Gordon who was his National Security Adviser are both "fringe players" whom Trump doesn't know personally according to Conway on Fox this morning.
 

hal2kilo

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Seems they are backing away from everyone. Now Carter Page who was a foreign policy adviser and J.D. Gordon who was his National Security Adviser are both "fringe players" whom Trump doesn't know personally according to Conway on Fox this morning.
Nothing to see. Move on.
 

emperus

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What I find very interesting is that Trump had to know the Justice dept (Sessions) was investigating his associates. Knowing that, he let Republicans look like idiots by continuing to defend him. Trump seems to give a fux about but himself and his children.
 

piasabird

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It is funny how the FBI can testify and never ever say anything intelligent. It is impossible to know if the FBI knows anything or if they ever investigated anything.
 

Fern

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or Putin just hated Hillary that much?

I think it well known that Putin hated Hillary.

Putin has complained about Hillary interfering in elections. I watched RT's coverage during the Ukraine/Crimea crisis. RT (Putin) was claiming outrageous things in regards to electoral tampering by our State Dept (Hillary).

More examples:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153

When mass protests against Russian President Vladimir Putin erupted in Moscow in December 2011, Putin made clear who he thought was really behind them: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave “a signal” to demonstrators working “with the support of the U.S. State Department” to undermine his power. “We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin declared.

Fern
 

LPCTech

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Its amusing to see you keep defending against an allegation that never happened.

No the russians never hacked into the voting machines and changed the vote. They didn't. And no one ever said they did.

K. sweety? You are right. Does it feel good to be right sometimes?

But Russia did hack the DNC and release any info that would hurt the DNC and help Trump. And they unleashed and paid an army of "trolls" to talk about how great Trump is all over the internet and how bad hillary is to sway the public opinion of foolish hanger-ons that want to be part of the winning side regardless of the side. Now russia is influencing US policy directly and you are OK with it. Which makes you a traitor.

Or perhaps you are just so ashamed of admitting you are wrong and you have to go down with the ship.

Either way one would have to be a true moron not to want to have the matter FULLY investigated by those not involved.

Russia did, In fact, influence our election for Trump and against Hillary. The question now is...

Was the Trump campaign aware of this? And did they cooperate in any way.

Its looking like the answer to both questions is YES.

Which makes this a traitorous administration.
Which makes people who voted for Donald Trump, Traitors.

Or just yuuuge dumbfucks.

edit: nah i guess most of them couldnt have known he was a traitor so, only like half of them are.
 
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