Comey wiretap testimony/meets Congress

[emperus]

Comey's hearing stance on not commenting on private citizens is contradicted by his statements on Hilary Clinton during the campaign.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Now Himes is grandstanding trying get Comey to comment against Trump et al. Not biting either. I'm liking his responses overall.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Comey's hearing stance on not commenting on private citizens is contradicted by his statements on Hilary Clinton during the campaign.

He's in a formal Congressional hearing and I expect he's learned to keep his opinions to himself. You might also remember that Comey spoke in support of Hillary NOT being legally accountable, something that went in her favor.

The partisanship of Comey seems to be in doubt unlike some have claimed on both sides.

 

[Pens1566]

Comey's hearing stance on not commenting on private citizens is contradicted by his statements on Hilary Clinton during the campaign.

Well, he does have some wiggle room in that he was commenting on a non-active investigation versus today that is an ongoing case.

 

[interchange]

No evidence to support tweets. That's a backward way of saying that the FBI had nothing to do with wiretapping Trump. It appears he is sensitive to the impressions his words will give while still delivering basic facts.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

The question right now, as I see it, is whether or not the Trump administration is stupid enough to ask for Comey to resign any time soon since he serves at the pleasure of the President. I don't think they are but who knows.

 

[fskimospy]

He's in a formal Congressional hearing and I expect he's learned to keep his opinions to himself. You might also remember that Comey spoke in support of Hillary NOT being legally accountable, something that went in her favor.

The partisanship of Comey seems to be in doubt unlike some have claimed on both sides.

I don't think Comey has acted in a particularly partisan way although his actions during the campaign were highly unethical.

The FBI as a rule does not comment on investigations or prosecutions that aren't pursued. It definitely doesn't hold news conferences to announce not pursuing charges and it ABSOLUTELY doesn't send letters to congress that it knows will be leaked announcing investigations of material it has no knowledge of the relevance of.

Comey should have been fired long ago for those egregious violations of department policy but I chalk this up to him caving under tremendous pressure as opposed to partisanship.

 

[emperus]

He's in a formal Congressional hearing and I expect he's learned to keep his opinions to himself. You might also remember that Comey spoke in support of Hillary NOT being legally accountable, something that went in her favor.

The partisanship of Comey seems to be in doubt unlike some have claimed on both sides.

Well, he should have just said that they were choosing to not prosecute her. That would have been more consistent with his stance at the hearing. The statements afterward were commenting on a private citizen.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't think Comey has acted in a particularly partisan way although his actions during the campaign were highly unethical.

The FBI as a rule does not comment on investigations or prosecutions that aren't pursued. It definitely doesn't hold news conferences to announce not pursuing charges and it ABSOLUTELY doesn't send letters to congress that it knows will be leaked announcing investigations of material it has no knowledge of the relevance of.

Comey should have been fired long ago for those egregious violations of department policy but I chalk this up to him caving under tremendous pressure as opposed to partisanship.

I don't agree with how he handled things and so I'm not defending his past. Right now I'm looking at how he currently comports himself and believe it would be hard to find a better candidate to handle this from what I've seen. He seems focused on the task and acting responsibility by screening out fact from politics. I would think he's under pressure again to find favorably for this administration and I don't see anything of the sort at this time.

 

[Grooveriding]

Good that this is finally put on record with video. The Russians interfered with the election to reduce American's confidence in their democracy, 'hurt Clinton and help Trump'. I've seen people who are not even aware that this is the reality of things. Which makes any and all contact between Trump's campaign and the Russians particularly suspect. Particularly as several of them have been caught lying about it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well, he should have just said that they were choosing to not prosecute her. That would have been more consistent with his stance at the hearing. The statements afterward were commenting on a private citizen.

As I said right before seeing your post, Comey has not done all things right at all times so if people aren't happy with him about Hillary I can understand. From my perspective however we are where we are and Hillary is a distraction to the current and much more serious allegations made against Trump et. al.

In Comey's favor is that he made a fool out of Conaway, clearly attempting to discredit claims against Trump's people.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

As I said right before seeing your post, Comey has not done all things right at all times so if people aren't happy with him about Hillary I can understand. From my perspective however we are where we are and Hillary is a distraction to the current and much more serious allegations made against Trump et. al.

In Comey's favor is that he made a fool out of Conaway, clearly attempting to discredit claims against Trump's people.

Agreed as I said I'm not sure Comey is the right guy for right now however option B is to have him resign and Trump appoint a new FBI director.
Rehashing his actions in regards to Hillary isn't relevant to this moment.

 

[fskimospy]

I don't agree with how he handled things and so I'm not defending his past. Right now I'm looking at how he currently comports himself and believe it would be hard to find a better candidate to handle this from what I've seen. He seems focused on the task and acting responsibility by screening out fact from politics. I would think he's under pressure again to find favorably for this administration and I don't see anything of the sort at this time.

I would agree that at this time he's probably the best candidate for investigating this mess. It will be extremely hard (but not impossible!) for people to dismiss his findings as some sort of partisan act considering that he most likely handed the election to Trump.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It would be nice if Sewell stopped preaching.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Natural factoid for Speier.

Tarantulas do not spin webs. That's what politicians are for

 

[emperus]

I guess the way to figure out if this is going badly for Trump is to see if Fox News has the Comey testimony live and uninterrupted. Anyone watching Fox?

 

[Fingolfin269]

We don't need Comey to explain the wire tap to us. We need Trump to explain it. After all he's the one that 'just found out' he got tapped... all he has to do is explain how he just found out and this can all be put to bed. Of course I'm not actually sure I want the President telling us his source on this since it will likely be more embarrassing than if it were actually true.

 

[IGBT]

Seeing how the flood or daily "Russia did it" stories quietly and utterly disappeared from news aggregators like news.google.com and news.yahoo.com late last week, I think it's safe to say where this is going. The DNC will have to explain to their KOOK liberal base that there was never any evidence the Russians did anything outside...
In 2012, President Obama was overheard over a hot microphone telling President Dmitri Medvedev of Russia he would have "more flexibility" to negotiate with Putin after the election.

Reality is never on the table when it comes to the DNC and the frothing at the mouth "liberals".

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Seeing how the flood or daily "Russia did it" stories quietly and utterly disappeared from news aggregators like news.google.com and news.yahoo.com late last week, I think it's safe to say where this is going. The DNC will have to explain to their KOOK liberal base that there was never any evidence the Russians did anything outside...
In 2012, President Obama was overheard over a hot microphone telling President Dmitri Medvedev of Russia he would have "more flexibility" to negotiate with Putin after the election.

Reality is never on the table when it comes to the DNC and the frothing at the mouth "liberals".

Let's have a look here.

First, other news supplants older stories as events happen/evolve. Both Comey and Rogers stated that Russians were the responsible party today. Doubt is gone at this point therefore there is nothing to explain.

Regarding Obama, I don't know what Obama did or did not say, however it's painfully obvious that after an election one would have more latitude with regards to negotiations than before. Nothing in the above statement shows that "flexibility to negotiate" meant an easing of sanctions on Russia. Indeed we've seen it was not the case at all.

Any discussion of "frothing liberals" is specious. The morality of the DNC actors is irrelevant in the context of an investigation to determine the facts of the matter of law regarding foreign parties, which again are found to be Russians.

Your argument is not a strong one.

 

[Grooveriding]

Seeing how the flood or daily "Russia did it" stories quietly and utterly disappeared from news aggregators like news.google.com and news.yahoo.com late last week, I think it's safe to say where this is going. The DNC will have to explain to their KOOK liberal base that there was never any evidence the Russians did anything outside...
In 2012, President Obama was overheard over a hot microphone telling President Dmitri Medvedev of Russia he would have "more flexibility" to negotiate with Putin after the election.

Reality is never on the table when it comes to the DNC and the frothing at the mouth "liberals".

Both of them have just testified that Russia interfered in the election, they did it with the aim of hurting Clinton and aiding Trump. Fucks sake you are as low-information as it gets. In the thread with the links to them testifying and video testimony of it, you still are in whack job land.

 

[HomerJS]

Seeing how the flood or daily "Russia did it" stories quietly and utterly disappeared from news aggregators like news.google.com and news.yahoo.com late last week, I think it's safe to say where this is going. The DNC will have to explain to their KOOK liberal base that there was never any evidence the Russians did anything outside...
In 2012, President Obama was overheard over a hot microphone telling President Dmitri Medvedev of Russia he would have "more flexibility" to negotiate with Putin after the election.

Reality is never on the table when it comes to the DNC and the frothing at the mouth "liberals".

What the hell you babbling about? "Russia did it" is already a fact, just ask 17 intel agencies. As far as the reset Obama was the current President at that time not a candidate.

Call your dealer, supply is running low.

 

[Jaskalas]

Both of them have just testified that Russia interfered in the election, they did it with the aim of hurting Clinton and aiding Trump.

Let's be clear on the actions they are accused of.
Hacking, and then releasing DNC and Podesta's Emails.

That's the full extent of it, yes?

 

[JSt0rm]

Seeing how the flood or daily "Russia did it" stories quietly and utterly disappeared from news aggregators like news.google.com and news.yahoo.com late last week, I think it's safe to say where this is going. The DNC will have to explain to their KOOK liberal base that there was never any evidence the Russians did anything outside...
In 2012, President Obama was overheard over a hot microphone telling President Dmitri Medvedev of Russia he would have "more flexibility" to negotiate with Putin after the election.

Reality is never on the table when it comes to the DNC and the frothing at the mouth "liberals".

icbm drops another shit bomb.

 

[IGBT]

A supporter of former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and former acting CIA Director Michael Morell suggested there isn't evidence to believe that aides on President Trump's campaign team colluded with Russia to help Trump win the election, NBC reported Wednesday. The only reason why the sound bites and action lines are alive is because the DNC doesn't want to explain to the LIBERAL kook base that there was never any evidence..the whole thing was nothing more then a profound case of LIBERAL illusory thinking and mental masturbation. The DNC will continue to kick the can down the road for a while longer but the end of the road is near. Liberals got spoofed with fake news and fake expectations..

 

[HomerJS]

Let's be clear on the actions they are accused of.
Hacking, and then releasing DNC and Podesta's Emails.

That's the full extent of it, yes?

By full extent you mean our country was attacked by Russia?