Good call. I'm sure you don't want your ass handed to you.
Ass handed to him over an opinion? How is that possible?
CK leaned pretty far left on most issues, though he was very tolerant, perhaps even supportive, of Christian religion. I respected him for that position, as many here are openly contemptuous of religion.
because opinions can be completely and utterly wrong?Ass handed to him over an opinion? How is that possible?
This is why you are and always will be a dumbass, and why Doc ran away crying. CK was a libertarian, not a lefty. Doc ran away rather than admit his label didn't make sense, but you are just dumb enough to go all the way with it.CK leaned pretty far left on most issues, though he was very tolerant, perhaps even supportive, of Christian religion. I respected him for that position, as many here are openly contemptuous of religion.
I think that's a fair assessment.CK was not and is not far left. He was just frustrated with P&N conservatives and he let his frustration get the better of him and became too vitriolic over it.
The issue between us is that you think the problem with the DC is the users, I think it's the structure.
You think conservatives are afraid or not bright enough to post there, I think they see a basically hostile environment where dissenting opinions aren't well received.
Ok, so now, it's not the structure, it's the management, i.e., who carries out the structure.The difference is that in your point of view the failure is the users, in mine it's the management.
Ran away crying? What exactly do you want from me? If I had said "anti-conservative militant" would that make you feel all cozy inside? If so...done.because opinions can be completely and utterly wrong?
This is why you are and always will be a dumbass, and why Doc ran away crying. CK was a libertarian, not a lefty. Doc ran away rather than admit his label didn't make sense, but you are just dumb enough to go all the way with it.
It would have made much more sense than partisan.Ran away crying? What exactly do you want from me? If I had said "anti-conservative militant" would that make you feel all cozy inside? If so...done.
It would have made much more sense than partisan.
CK was just as militantly anti-conservative as I am. Allowing them to spew their logical fallacies and misinformation is overly generous to them. There are plenty of legitimate attack vectors against Obama and the Dems but conservatives are too stupid to understand them let alone figure out which ones are legitimate. They even fuck up the legitimate vectors.Not really, if anything I felt that CK was being overly generous to the conservatives posting in the forum as if he was trying to not be biased.
I'd still like to see an example of this though.
Don't make this too hard on yourself...the answer is obvious...I'm clearly "incapable". I'm surprised that an intellect of your capacity would even consider "unwilling" to be a legitimate option.Unwilling/incapable.
Per dank69's request, I've changed "militant partisanship" to "anti-conservative militancy" as I do think this more accurately reflects his demeanor.Of course you aren't, just like every other time someone calls you on your bullshit, you cry and take your ball home.
Perhaps you could post some examples of his militant partisanship? After all, this minute detail as you call it, was the reason you said DC failed.
There are plenty of legitimate attack vectors against Obama and the Dems but conservatives are to stupid to understand them let alone figure out which ones are legitimate. They even fuck up the legitimate vectors.
The sun is going to rise in the west tomorrow. Don't call me a troll just because I said something different or because you disagree with me, because that's just like, your opinion man.You forgot the word Troll.
Something 90% of interweb users are clueless as to what it means.
Nowadays you say something different and you automatically get the troll label.
I luv the interweb and its n00b nowadays!!!
Per dank69's request, I've changed "militant partisanship" to "anti-conservative militancy" as I do think this more accurately reflects his demeanor.
For the record, I said "relatively minute detail" and I didn't say it was the reason, I said it was one of two reasons. If you want to split hairs about the accuracy of my wording, you may want to look at your own first. It seems that you may have a reading comprehension problem (which is apparently a rarity among liberals). This happens to be right up shira's alley...but I somehow doubt he'll weigh in. Oh, and if your intent was to be perceived as immature and intellectually challenged...you've succeeded.
Actually I'm sorry to see CK rage quit like this. He's obviously intelligent and highly articulate...maybe I'm a little naive, but I was actually hoping he would "get it" at some point. DC was a noble venture and I know he worked his butt off trying to make it happen and I genuinely thank him for that. Unfortunately, his militant partisanship and arrogant personality prevented him from setting the kind of balanced tone needed to effectively moderate that particular type of forum. I wish CK the best and hope something good comes from this for him.
Doubling down I see. I was referring to Post #115. Is this not the post you were referring to when you said "After all, this minute detail as you call it, was the reason you said DC failed."?Lol! You have no idea what you said.
No use of the word "minute" anywhere in the post. It wasn't until you were called out on your claim that you tried to down play one of the two reasons you say DC failed.
I'm still waiting for an example of his anti conservative militant partisanship you claim he espoused.
However, this is a perfect example of how many liberals here "discuss". They ignore the entire gist of a post, pick a relatively minute detail and attempt to twist it into a point of contention. It's a game...and in my opinion...a fool's game.
Doubling down I see. I was referring to Post #115.
Also, please note that I said in the sentence you quoted that his "militant partisanship and arrogant personality prevented him from setting the kind of balanced tone needed to effectively moderate that particular type of forum". That's two reasons Einstein. Your reading comprehension is horrible. shira, where are you when I need you?!?
^^^^ correct definition and behavior of a trollThe sun is going to rise in the west tomorrow. Don't call me a troll just because I said something different or because you disagree with me, because that's just like, your opinion man.
I can only hope that you've been drinking heavily today and aren't normally nearly as stupid as you appear to be. I'm done. Peace.Lol! You should make sure you comprehend what you read before you talk shit about others reading comprehension capabilities.
I'm still waiting for an example from you, or is that what you need shira for?
Perhaps we right-wingers aren't posting there because we didn't know you had resigned. I didn't. I left because when a mod insists that one party is evil, wanting to starve children and kill old people, and the other party is simply too nice, playing softball for graciously allowing the Republicans to use the same procedural tactic the Democrats have used for tens of decades, continuing to post would only get me banned. When a mod obviously wants only a left wing echo chamber where people wonder over and over why the Democrats are always too nice to the Republicans, I'd only be trolling to continue posting. Not much point.There is no "structure". It's a forum. It works exactly the same way as this one, except the trolling and other obnoxious behavior is not allowed, and people are expected to debate in a logical manner.
It hasn't thrived because most people either can't do that, or don't want to. It's really that simple.
It's not dissenting opinions that aren't well-received, it's opinions that are factually incorrect, not well argued, and/or not well supported by evidence. It just so happens that 90+% of what conservatives post in P&N fall into those categories.
I don't know if I'm allowed to name names here, so I won't. But anyone can scan through P&N and see the usual suspects, over and over again. All they are interested in is repeating talking points and flaming the other "team". They aren't all right-wingers, but most of them are. That's why these people don't post in the DC, not the victimology nonsense that you and a handful of others have been repeating over and over for months.
One of the reasons I resigned was to remove this bullshit excuse that my oh-so-unfair moderation was making it hard for the tender sensibilities of the right-wingers around here. There's only one moderator there now, and he's a long-time admin who is a conservative. But the right-wingers still don't post there. And that's because the vast majority of what they have to say is either unconstructive or can't withstand rational scrutiny. There ARE some people on the right who post there, generally those who are actually capable of writing a readable paragraph without drooling on their keyboards. Most stay here because they don't want to discuss, they want to propagandize and scream, and much of the time can't even understand what they are reading.
I can only hope that you've been drinking heavily today and aren't normally nearly as stupid as you appear to be. I'm done. Peace.
This, exactly. Whenever I find myself angry at something on an Internet forum I stop at have a good laugh at my own expense. It's the Internet, don't mean nothin'.Lol, getting all butt hurt over the internet. Get a life.
LOL +1Well there's your answer then, the DC can't work because conservatives are stupid. Perhaps when you explained what a fair and balanced section the DC is you simply didn't say it slow enough for them to understand?
LOL #2. Was there really ever any doubt?This post sure took a turn that was not expected.
Be sure and let us know how that works out for you.Still waiting for examples.