Compare Builds, which one?

[MonKENy]

Need to put one together for my GF. Going to giver her 2 options for price points. Going to be used for gaming mostly. Im also open to any changes and am in no way locked into Ryzen

1st Low

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($199.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($544.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech - MX800 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1703.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 06:28 EST-0500

Mid

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($201.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($544.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech - MX800 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1947.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 06:33 EST-0500

High

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($201.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card ($785.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech - MX800 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2188.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 06:34 EST-0500

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Those builds are more similar than not. Might want to broaden horizons a bit before you present her with options.

What games does she play and who's paying for this? Are you getting excited about spending other peoples' money? (*scowl*)

If she's looking for a Candy Crush and Facebook gaming rig, get her an $800 laptop.

If she's looking for MOBA type gaming, you can go waaaay downmarket on the GPU/CPU/etc. (Ryzen 5 + GTX 1060) and have a good experience.

If she's playing mostly Civ-type 4x games, you can get an Amazon Basics keyboard and mouse and save like $80.

There's no need for upgraded motherboards unless she intends to overclock.

For a single-GPU system with traditional cooling, micro-ATX is where it's at. (Smaller case, no real disadvantages.)

If she games but isn't comfortable managing documents in a file system*, getting a single 1TB SATA SSD for everything would be a better idea than the geek-friendly 250GB/3TB SSD/HDD split.

*Despite what I spent most of my teenage years telling my mother, playing a lot of computer games doesn't actually make you better at using computers... unless the video games in question hose your DOS installation and you have to fix it... which I still think was my mom messing with me.

How "nested" are you guys? I only ask because, although I know stereotypes are bad and all, but after few years being "domesticated" myself, and with an understanding of the "feng shui" that is desired around the house... my next system will probably be either a SkullTrail NUC or an Ultrabook and eGPU docking station. It's more "executive chic" and less "dorm room."

 

[MonKENy]

Those builds are more similar than not. Might want to broaden horizons a bit before you present her with options.

Its a little manipulative but I am trying to giver her a "sure this is a fine pc but see for only a little more you can have THIS" kind of scenario. My hope is to have her buy a system that really can last several years before it HAS to be upgraded. My last rig lasted almost 5 years before my upgrade and even then it was playing new games at high settings. I probably could have gotten 2 more years out of it before I would have had to scrap it.

What games does she play and who's paying for this? Are you getting excited about spending other peoples' money? (*scowl*)

I told her a PC would be in the $1800 range. She plays everything honestly, and she has 2 kids with the older starting to come into more advanced gaming. I can see her and I playing games like RE7, witcher, etc. and the kids Playing Portal 2, puzzle games and the like moving up as they get a little older.

I am trying to get her to move away from console gaming as it is in the long run significantly more expensive. So at the end of it all she is paying for it.

If she's looking for MOBA type gaming, you can go waaaay downmarket on the GPU/CPU/etc. (Ryzen 5 + GTX 1060) and have a good experience.

I was thinking about dropping the low build to be a 1070 as well. Maybe not down to 1060 though, but the price dif was so small.

There's no need for upgraded motherboards unless she intends to overclock.

I might OC

If she games but isn't comfortable managing documents in a file system*, getting a single 1TB SATA SSD for everything would be a better idea than the geek-friendly 250GB/3TB SSD/HDD split.

Shes good with it. she knows fairly well how to manage a pc and what needs to be taught she will pick up well I think.

How "nested" are you guys? I only ask because, although I know stereotypes are bad and all, but after few years being "domesticated" myself, and with an understanding of the "feng shui" that is desired around the house... my next system will probably be either a SkullTrail NUC or an Ultrabook and eGPU docking station. It's more "executive chic" and less "dorm room."

Are you talking in regards to ascetics? Then there isnt a worry, if not then im missing something.

made some small adjustments to the low

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($219.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($419.89 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1448.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 16:09 EST-0500

And mid

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($544.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1703.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-20 16:05 EST-0500

 

[DaveSimmons]

Once you're up to a $350 CPU I'd consider the intel 8700 non-K. Faster at stock, fast enough for anything at stock, low power so easier to keep quiet. It looks like it's out of stock at Newegg and Amazon today, but it will be back.

 

[lukart]

Mid point pricing... you would be better off going with intel.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbZ7cc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbZ7cc/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($419.89 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1429.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-21 00:53 EST-0500

 

[MonKENy]

Mid point pricing... you would be better off going with intel.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbZ7cc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YbZ7cc/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($279.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($419.89 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1429.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-21 00:53 EST-0500

Thats low end to me not mid.

 

[Ken g6]

Thats low end to me not mid.

I'll see your "low-end" and raise (lower?) you this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: *MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($96.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1258.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-21 11:03 EST-0500

And I'll raise you this "mid-range" build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($289.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: *ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($141.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Mini Video Card ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1489.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-21 11:08 EST-0500

Edit: By the way, nobody answers the questions anymore!

 

[whm1974]

I'll see your "low-end" and raise (lower?) you this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: *MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($96.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1258.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-21 11:03 EST-0500

And I'll raise you this "mid-range" build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($289.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: *ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($141.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Mini Video Card ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1489.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-21 11:08 EST-0500

Edit: By the way, nobody answers the questions anymore!

The only things I would change is I would remove the HDDs and use my two M500 SSDs and add another 16 GB of memory. And replace the BR burner with a DVD one since I use Linux. An probably the HSF on the second build. But otherwise I would be glad to have either one as would many other people will have as as well.

 

[MonKENy]

The only things I would change is I would remove the HDDs and use my two M500 SSDs and add another 16 GB of memory. And replace the BR burner with a DVD one since I use Linux. An probably the HSF on the second build. But otherwise I would be glad to have either one as would many other people will have as as well.

LOL well, Id be happy to accept your SSDs to lower the cost of my build but since I dont have them I guess its not really an option. Cant replace the BR she has a huge collection of BR discs.

I'll see your "low-end" and raise (lower?) you this:


And I'll raise you this "mid-range" build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($289.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: *ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($141.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Mini Video Card ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer - BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1489.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-21 11:08 EST-0500

Edit: By the way, nobody answers the questions anymore!

I am liking the idea of maybe using the 1070 mini and shifting to a more compact case....hmmmmm

I didnt answer the questions this time because I know already the parts I want mostly and what to do with them. I just want to see if there were relative comparable ideas to this machine.

 

[whm1974]

LOL well, Id be happy to accept your SSDs to lower the cost of my build but since I dont have them I guess its not really an option. Cant replace the BR she has a huge collection of BR discs.

Well I would keep the M.2 NVMe SSD as I am almost out of space on the SSD which has my games on. Or replace it with a 2TB SATA SSD.