Complete Polymer AR-15 lower receiver-$99.99 + Shipping & FFL xfer fees

[caddlad]

For what it's worth, my buddy owns a gun range and has had 2 people in with rifles built on these and both broke. One of them cracked at the rear take down pin, the other one broke on the top part where the buffer tube screws in.

Any work on the warranty treatment? I assume they returned them.

 

[corwin]

I'm highly doubtful they were from NFA since they only started selling them about a month ago but if they truly are I would be curious of their warranty experience as well since they have lifetime coverage...would also be curious if there was any abuse or accidents that caused it but I really doubt anyone would admit that...

 

[caddlad]

I'm really considering this. The only pics (google images search for LW-15 lower failure) of failures are of Plum Crazy or CAV15 lowers and they all link back to a thread on AR15.com.
NFA claims to use an improved carbon fiber polymer. I want to scratch the AR itch but funds are tight and this would fit the bill.

 

[malbojah]

I'm getting one of these. Been wanting an AR rifle


Some may be interested to know that Classic arms has 2 complete receivers for <$400:
http://www.classicfirearms.co/accessories.htm
(Scroll down, these are before the half-way point)

DTI 16" 1x9 twist chrome moly M4 barrel, flat weaver $380


atrocious site design, but they have some good deals.

My wallet is in hiding because of you right now. I'm looking at the M4 rifle kit and thinking 'Hmmm, all I need is a stripped lower and I can assemble everything for cheap.' Then I remembered this is my second gun (1st is Ruger 10/22) and I've never put anything like this together

 

[gorcorps]

My wallet is in hiding because of you right now. I'm looking at the M4 rifle kit and thinking 'Hmmm, all I need is a stripped lower and I can assemble everything for cheap.' Then I remembered this is my second gun (1st is Ruger 10/22) and I've never put anything like this together

Assembling a lower from parts is one of the more difficult things to do. I was told to avoid it unless I'm ready to buy the proper tools, and learn some gun smithing. It's not exactly drop in and go... it needs some fine tuning to be perfect.

Might as well keep those parts as spares and just buy the complete lower stock from this thread.

 

[corwin]

Assembling a lower from parts is one of the more difficult things to do. I was told to avoid it unless I'm ready to buy the proper tools, and learn some gun smithing. It's not exactly drop in and go... it needs some fine tuning to be perfect.

Might as well keep those parts as spares and just buy the complete lower stock from this thread.

Somebody scared you away from building for no good reason...well at least as far as building a lower goes that is, I built my first with nothing more than a hammer, 1/4 punch, and a large pair of vise grips...took about 45 minutes with zero damage to the lower and functions flawlessly. Now building the upper does take several special tools and isn't something I'm near ready to try yet.

That rifle kit is a good deal even though the barrel isn't chrome lined, if PSA ever gets moving faster theirs is only $50 more to get the chrome though...I'm still tempted to order this one to make my third rifle though

 

[gorcorps]

Somebody scared you away from building for no good reason...well at least as far as building a lower goes that is, I built my first with nothing more than a hammer, 1/4 punch, and a large pair of vise grips...took about 45 minutes with zero damage to the lower and functions flawlessly. Now building the upper does take several special tools and isn't something I'm near ready to try yet.

That rifle kit is a good deal even though the barrel isn't chrome lined, if PSA ever gets moving faster theirs is only $50 more to get the chrome though...I'm still tempted to order this one to make my third rifle though

Yeah I pretty much heard the opposite... that assembling the upper was fairly easy and doesn't have nearly the amount of small parts to lose or break.

 

[corwin]

Yeah I pretty much heard the opposite... that assembling the upper was fairly easy and doesn't have nearly the amount of small parts to lose or break.

There are a ton of small parts but it's really not too difficult at all...just takes some time and patience to do it without scratching anything and basic tools pretty much all of us should have. The upper requires special tools to headspace the bolt as well as to hold the the assembly...plus if you mess that up it could blow up when fire it Worst you can do with the lower is lose a part of it, I fired the takedown detent across the room and had to search for it in the carpet once but other than that the rest went together like butter I honestly don't know how you could break any of the parts of the lower, unless you bent a spring out of shape or something...you should watch some of the videos on building it or look through the instructions at AR15.com, it's really no big deal at all

 

[corwin]

I'm getting one of these. Been wanting an AR rifle


Some may be interested to know that Classic arms has 2 complete receivers for <$400:
http://www.classicfirearms.co/accessories.htm
(Scroll down, these are before the half-way point)

DTI 16" 1x9 twist chrome moly M4 barrel, flat weaver $380

and a .410 shotgun upper (with a mag) for $350

atrocious site design, but they have some good deals.

Just in case anyone actually was considering this deal they are OOS with none expected Well for the Del-Ton (DTI) uppers anyway, the .410 is in stock

And PSA is down to almost nothing now, their cheapest complete upper is $450 and rilfe kit is $550 now:'(

On a bright note my wife absolutely loves her pink AR, hoping to hit the range as soon as the rainy days pass us by and the ground dries a bit

 

[gorcorps]

Just in case anyone actually was considering this deal they are OOS with none expected Well for the Del-Ton (DTI) uppers anyway, the .410 is in stock

And PSA is down to almost nothing now, their cheapest complete upper is $450 and rilfe kit is $550 now:'(

On a bright note my wife absolutely loves her pink AR, hoping to hit the range as soon as the rainy days pass us by and the ground dries a bit

You know who isn't out of stock? PK Firearms

2-3 day delivery for the 3 people I know who ordered from them. Can't beat that.

 

[caddlad]

Pulled the trigger on this.

 

[boomhower]

You guys get some horrible advise. Assembling lowers is easy with basic hand tools, patience, and a couple of youtube videos. Assembling an upper is whole different ball of wax. You do need specialized tools and know what the hell you are doing.

 

[corwin]

You know who isn't out of stock? PK Firearms

2-3 day delivery for the 3 people I know who ordered from them. Can't beat that.

Yeah, keep rubbing it in If they weren't so much more expensive I wouldn't hesitate to pick up their stuff, but for almost $100 I can wait a couple weeks

Pulled the trigger on this.

Congrats, think you'll like it

You guys get some horrible advise. Assembling lowers is easy with basic hand tools, patience, and a couple of youtube videos. Assembling an upper is whole different ball of wax. You do need specialized tools and know what the hell you are doing.

Heck you don't even need videos, I used the tutorial on ar15.com and my first lower went together super easy with a hammer, small punch and a pair of vise grips...

 

[Zebo]

You can build a really light weapon with these. I've seen them as low as 4.5 lbs. When the zombies come and you have to head to the hills weight will make big a difference and dragging around those 12lb ARs will get old after a few hours.

 

[Lead Butthead]

You can build a really light weapon with these. I've seen them as low as 4.5 lbs. When the zombies come and you have to head to the hills weight will make big a difference and dragging around those 12lb ARs will get old after a few hours.

A vet friend said the very same; "when you have to lug that thing on your back all day, that extra four pounds begin to weight on you heavily."

 

[mleejr]

A vet friend said the very same; "when you have to lug that thing on your back all day, that extra four pounds begin to weight on you heavily."

Why does he have it on his back? He should have it at the ready. I used to carry around the 60 so I'm not sympathetic I never saw anyone carry any machine gun on their back except in the movies.

Ok dudes, soup to nuts, I just want an M4/M16/AR15/whatever clone as cheap as possible. What do you guys recommend? with links please...

 

[imported_blackhorse95]

I bought one of these. Seems to be of good quality. The fire control group is smooth. The trigger pull is fairly light (around 5 lbs.) The safety and hammer are also made from the same material as the lower. The lower comes assembled with all the fire control parts, buffer tube, CAR type stock and front and rear assembly pins. There is visible light showing between this lower and the upper I have; but there is no slop movement.

Assembling a lower is doable by anyone with the desire to do it. There are a lot of small parts and springs. There is danger of losing something. All these parts are readily available.

Assembling an upper is also doable by almost anyone. The critical part is headspacing the barrel to the upper/w the bolt. In most cases, the barrel and upper are held to sufficient standards during manufacture that headspace is correct when assembled with off the shelf parts. This must be verified before the weapon is safe to fire. It is preferable to have the bolt lugs mated to the upper.

 

[Zebo]

A vet friend said the very same; "when you have to lug that thing on your back all day, that extra four pounds begin to weight on you heavily."

I'm no vet but he's right. All the weapons I use are super light and I'm a big dude. I use a 6lb bennelli ultralight shotgun for birds or my AR I use in 3 gun which is very light - 6.7 lbs - heavy guns drag on you big time after hours of use. I learned the hard way through experiences. Have a $3000 safe queen LMT piston with all the fixin's I never use. Have a $1500 SBE I never use. Still haven't given up my stainless sig pistol for the plastic guns though since they are all under a couple pounds.

Some ppl say heavy weapons is good for recoil but I never notice recoil. Can shoot anything one handed John Wayne style without issue. But I sure notice a dumbell in my hand after a few hours.

 

[Zebo]

Why does he have it on his back? He should have it at the ready. I used to carry around the 60 so I'm not sympathetic I never saw anyone carry any machine gun on their back except in the movies.

Ok dudes, soup to nuts, I just want an M4/M16/AR15/whatever clone as cheap as possible. What do you guys recommend? with links please...

Check out CMMG's bargain bins. Sometimes they have complete AR's for ~$450 and they are good weapons.

 

[corwin]

Why does he have it on his back? He should have it at the ready. I used to carry around the 60 so I'm not sympathetic I never saw anyone carry any machine gun on their back except in the movies.

Ok dudes, soup to nuts, I just want an M4/M16/AR15/whatever clone as cheap as possible. What do you guys recommend? with links please...

For the cheapest you could order today it would be:

The lower in the OP $99+$12 shipping+$25 xfer fee=~$137
PSA Upper $457.90+$15 shipping=$472.90
30 rd mag $11.98 shipped (use coupon code "slickmag")
Total $621.88

The xfer fee will vary based on where you have it shipped to. This doesn't include a rear/red dot sight though, you can add an MBUS rear sight for $50 to the upper or get a red dot of your choice from someplace, the one below is a nice cheap one to get.

Primary Arms $69+$10 high mount+$6.50 shipping=$85.50

 

[gorcorps]

For the cheapest you could order today it would be:

The lower in the OP $99+$12 shipping+$25 xfer fee=~$137
PSA Upper $457.90+$15 shipping=$472.90
30 rd mag $11.98 shipped (use coupon code "slickmag")
Total $621.88

The xfer fee will vary based on where you have it shipped to. This doesn't include a rear/red dot sight though, you can add an MBUS rear sight for $50 to the upper or get a red dot of your choice from someplace, the one below is a nice cheap one to get.

Primary Arms $69+$10 high mount+$6.50 shipping=$85.50

All of that, but you can get cheaper uppers:
http://www.pkfirearms.com/Rock_River_Arms_Barreled_Uppers/57/c
There's a RRA upper there for $451

Or a DPMS upper for $439 and $450:
http://www.pkfirearms.com/DPMS_Barreled_Uppers/58/c

 

[corwin]

All of that, but you can get cheaper uppers:
http://www.pkfirearms.com/Rock_River_Arms_Barreled_Uppers/57/c
There's a RRA upper there for $451

Or a DPMS upper for $439 and $450:
http://www.pkfirearms.com/DPMS_Barreled_Uppers/58/c

There you go finding other good stuff None of those have a chrome lined barrel and all would be another $18 shipping, for the little bit extra (and if you can wait the 10 business days for PSA to ship) I think the chrome is worth it...but to go cheap as possible (and get it faster) those would be on top by a hair

One other note those are all 1/9 twist while the PSA is 1/7...still haven't ever figured out hands down which is better, don't know that there's enough of a difference to matter

 

[Gillbot]

Here's the same but with free shipping:
http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NFA-LW15BLK

I pulled the trigger on one myself.

 

[etrin]

this looks like a good deal.
on the uppers I see a LOT of 14.7"
isn't 16 the min legal unless you are registered.


Anyone know a good transfer person in little rock ar area
all the old dealers I used to trade with are gone now. SAD TIMES

 

[Gillbot]

there are plenty of sites to use as a search for an FFL in your area. just google it