computer building woes

[genova]

403 Forbidden, the cpu only goes in one way. It's impossible to do it wrong, it slides into it's socket without any force at all. I will try to switch my rams up, they are in slot 2 and 3...but i think it's my vid card...Hmmm

 

[Linux23]

i flogged up my aunt's computer the same way. I was curious, and took out her Pentium CPU from the socket. Little did I know I had to align everything properly. I did not get any video until all the pins were bent straight, and everything was aligned properly.

Needless to say, I was shi**ing bricks when I thought I had to buy her a new computer!

 

[genova]

I dunno if theres no video because the monitor won't turn on along with the computer. It just sits in suspend mode.

 

[genova]

Also where does the HDD LED connector go? The case manual tells me it connects to the ide connector and the motehrboard manual doesn not speak of it. Although the Mobo does have an IDE LED slot, should the HDD led go there?

 

[Hyper99]

you can tell if it is right when you connect the ide connector when turning on the computer it should lit up. building a computer ain't easy you got to be patient and learn by trial and error as I still have problem that couldn't be figure out easily that the growing pain about it. alway something wrong no one is perfect could be a deffective motherboard, mouse, keyboard, connector etc and who know what wrong with it until you diagnose everything from head to toe.
It take me like 3 day straight 10 hour a day just to build one well I could put it together in 30min but the rest is trouble shooting them.

 

[genova]

Well, I've reatched the Vid Card, Ram, CPu everything you guys suggested but nothing. I don't think I've stated my problem incorrectly. My problem is NOT that nothing is appearing on screen, It's that the monitor isn't activated when I turn on teh comp when I hook it up to my AGP card. It stays is suspend mode, like when you turn on the monitor when the comp isn't on. Well I think I'm gonna have a techy inspect it and if you have anymore suggestions or tips then please add it to the post! Thanks for the help everyone.

 

[Celoverclock]

are you positive the monitor works??you need to start swapping parts with another system, makeing sure the monitor, video, memory, cpu all work. just because they are brand new doesnt mean they are guaranteed to work.

also, can you hear the system booting up?does the harddrive make noise?can you hear everything kick on?or is id just dead?

 

[genova]

Yeah the monitor work. I reconnect it to the old comp everytime I post a new thread . I'd have problems puting my Geforce 2 in my old mobo since it doesn't support agp. Can't switch rams with it since it's SIMM.

 

[Mem]

Try pressing the reset button on PC a few times this might be a Geforce2 card boot Problem.

 

[complex]

my friend recently put together a computer and purchased an antec case from buy.com. he had the same exact problems and brought the case and everything to me to look at. i have to admit, i couldn't find wah twas wrong. hd powered on, lights came, cpu fan cam on, just no signal to the monitor to indicate it was on, and no bios 'beep'.

the problem was the power supply was set for 220v! he switched it to 110v and everything worked. may be something to look at.

complex

 

[Nick Stone]

genova
We are all telling you that your CPU is not properly seated because your symptoms -- a blank video on monitor or a monitor screen that displays just as if the rest of the system hadn't been turned on -- are EXACTLY what we would expect to see and what we have SEEN when your CPU is not seated properly. We understand what you are trying to tell us about the monitor.
Now it could be anything else that causes the power supply to tell the machine not to boot, because that IS what's happening.
It won't boot with a short.
It won't boot without a minimum of working components (such as a CPU)
It won't work without proper power (115V) and a switch to start it.
The assemble guides go thru long lists of things to check and the order to do it in.
Your wasting your time trying to hook up your hard drive now. You should disconnect it totally from the system until it you get it to boot. Who knows, it or its cable might have a short in it and be causing your problem.
Stay on the early steps and don't proceed further until you get it to boot.
When in doubt, Take it completely appart and put it back together again. It won't take long the 2nd time but THINK about what we've been saying while you do it.
Remember, the physical assembly is the fun - easy part. The troubleshooting it pure experience and logic - and frustrating.

 

[Sledge]

Are you connecting your monitor to the output from your AGP video card or the default VGA connector on your motherboard?

Try the other VGA connector if appropriate. The motherboard will probably default to using its internal VGA monitor output.

 

[ElFenix]

have you tried pulling the working vid card from the older system and putting it in the new system. the only things you should have plugged in is the cpu, vidcard, and ram. try it with just 1 stick of ram, in the first slot. if all else fails, pull the mobo out of the case and try booting it on a non-conductive surface, like the box it came in.

 

[genova]

theres No other place to plug the monitor cable, only the vid card. Tried the reset button...think I heard a beep but the monitor still doesn't work. I've tried booting up the comp with just ram, vid, and cpu, but monitor still doesn't boot up. The power was and is on 115v. CPU is in correctly so I don't think that's it...

 

[DataFly]

I would follow ElFenix's suggestion and try the old video card. If it works, then your new card is the problem. If it doesn't It's likely a problem with the motherboard, RAM, or the CPU, as others have mentioned.

 

[Thanatopsis]

I didn't see that anyone had answered your question about the green thing over the KT133 chip, so I'll answer it.

Don't remove the green thing. If its metal, its most likely the heatsink which you need to keep the chip from overheating. So leave that heatsink on.

 

[genova]

Well, I can't put the old Vid card in because it's onboard video I think...

 

[Nick Stone]

genova

It's easy to tell if it's onboard video in your old case. If the "video-to-monitor" connection is horizontal and approx. in line with the motherboard, then it's on-board video. If the connector is verticle and 1 to 3 in. above the plane of the motherboard (when motherboard in your case is parallel to your work desk) then that connector is attached to a card that can be removed for test purposes. Make sure your old computer doesn't have 2 video output connectors, one of each type.
You might be surprised how easy it is to borrow an old video card. Almost everyone who has ever upgraded their computer has one lying around - just for this purpose -- to make sure that their boot-up problem isn't related to their video card. It can be an old ISA card, you can't hurt it, you don't need drivers and they are worth nothing.
Don't worry that you will hurt something when removing and replacing the video card in your old system. Almost impossible to mess that up.
Good luck.

 

[genova]

So I decided to run the CPU without a heatsink and the core got really hot so the CPU is seated correctly, the computer power also shutted down in about 5 sec probably because of the heat. I then took the mobo outside the case and ran it with only the bare minimum, cpu, ram, and vid. Hooked the monitor up and it too shuts down in 5 sec but I have the heatsink on this time. But when I put the Mobo back in the case and ran it everything was fine. Weird. Anyway I'm gonna have a couple of people check it this week and I will let your guys know what's up.

 

[flood]

I say your RAM isnt seated well, or your RAM is dead.
try swapping in some ram that you know is good.

 

[flood]

Running that chip without a heatsink is a *VERY* bad idea.

You might also want to try resetting the bios.

 

[Nick Stone]

<<<<But when I put the Mobo back in the case and ran it everything was fine.>>>>>

So does that mean it was working? If so, try to think what you did diferently the 2nd time you assembled it.
Metal studs under the MB.
Cable connections.
Inserting ram and video card,etc.
Anyway, you may never know what was wrong.
Good luck!

 

[genova]

Nick, I meant that the power didn't shut down after 5 secs when I said everything was fine

 

[Ornery]

Take the power off of the power supply, reset the BIOS via it's reset jumper. Leave it jumped for 30 seconds. Start over. Listen for beeps (have that speaker plugged in), listen for memory counting up...

Do you hear any beeps? Hear the memory count ticking during the POST?