Computer crashing problem, please help.

littlezipp

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Ok, just got back into Windows after another freakish restart!
My computer will restart when I try to open up SiSandra 2002 pro, or mid way through 3dmark2001 SE.
Why is it doing this?

System specs:
Asus P4B266
1.6A at 2.13 (with AS2 and Alpha cooling)
PNY TI4400
Crucial PC3000 CAS 2
WD 400BB (replaced in a matter of days with a WD1200JB)
Pioneer DVD, TDK CD-RW
Plenty of cooling in a Lian Li case.

So what is going on? Another thing, I can no longer OC at 140fsb, why is that. The cpu temp is low enough, and the case temp is fine.
It used to be able to do 140fsb, but now it can't. I have however flashed the BIOS, so that may have messed something up, but what?

Thanks for your help!
 

osage

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try backing off the overclock a bit, then defrag the harddrive. sounds like you are overclocked to the point of instability.
 

Buz2b

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As a Senior Member you should be familiar with the fact that you need to provide precise details about your troubles if you want precise help. You have been a bit vague. Let's see, your board seems to be restarting I think. Apparently it does this when you try to run SiSandra 2002 pro and 3dmark2001 SE. What else do you have running? What are the temps you refer to when you say they are fine? What the heck does "replaced in a matter of days with a WD1200JB" mean? Did this start on or about this same time? You see how we are guessing here?? You say that you can no longer get 140 FSB. OK, how long have you been running it at that speed? What are/have been your temps? Did you unlock your CPU? If so, how? And then the clincher: " I have however flashed the BIOS, so that may have messed something up, but what?" Uh, well, when did you do that? Could that have happened on or about the same time as the other problems? Have you considered flashing back? You might start by taking the suggestion to run a Scandisk/Defrag on your HDD first. Then try to run default settings w/no overclock and see what happens. And above all, whether myself or anyone else can help, at least provide a bit more info; OK?
 

littlezipp

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"As a Senior Member you should be familiar with the fact that you need to provide precise details about your troubles if you want precise help. You have been a bit vague."
Yes, I do know that I left out some details, and that was to keep the post lenght short. If you make a post too long and cerebral, the majority of the readers will not read it!

"Let's see, your board seems to be restarting I think."
Yes

"Apparently it does this when you try to run SiSandra 2002 pro and 3dmark2001 SE."
Yes, along with other randow restarts (unexplained).

"What else do you have running?"
Norton Personal Firewall and Antivirus. Tried leaving them on and off, but the results are the same.

"What are the temps you refer to when you say they are fine?"
My definition of fine temps are under 45 degrees celsius, but the cpu never goes above 38, and stays around 30.

"What the heck does "replaced in a matter of days with a WD1200JB" mean?"
It means that in a few days, Friday the 10th or so, that new hard drive will be here, and installed into the system. It is impertinent information, just wanted to throw it in if someone thought the hard drive was bad.

"Did this start on or about this same time?"
HD not changed. Started around the time I changed some ram, but the problem is still there when I put the old stick back in.

"You see how we are guessing here??"
Yes.

"You say that you can no longer get 140 FSB. OK, how long have you been running it at that speed?"
Ran at 140fsb for weeks.

"What are/have been your temps?"
Right around 30 degrees. To be precise, it is 30 right now.

"Did you unlock your CPU? If so, how?"
Certainly not.

"And then the clincher: " I have however flashed the BIOS, so that may have messed something up, but what?" Uh, well, when did you do that? Could that have happened on or about the same time as the other problems?"
The flashing was an attempted fix. It is not the cause of the problem, but I considered it important.

"Have you considered flashing back?"
I have flashed to the saved bios before the flash, an older one, and a beta one, all with the same results.

"You might start by taking the suggestion to run a Scandisk/Defrag on your HDD first."
I run it two times a week at least, once this morning.

"Then try to run default settings w/no overclock and see what happens."
Yes everything set at defaults will complete 3DMark2001 SE.

"And above all, whether myself or anyone else can help, at least provide a bit more info; OK?"
I have created numerous posts with intricate details, and I find that what works best is to put out the situation and system specifications, and let people throw out ideas. I then follow the ideas that they give me to see what happens. It works for me when I have the problem, and when I'm helping someone with a problem.
 

Finite

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It could be your video card. There was an issue with a certain driver and windows XP awhile back. Not sure if intel boards were effected or not but don't remember anything stating they were not. I had somehting verry similar happen to me with Xp due to the Nvidia driver thats why I am bringing it up. Dam, it sounds just like the problem I was having.

If all else fails start from scratch. Remove everything accept the essintials from the system and see if that helps at all and work your way back to having everything installed. If its a hardware issue this will most likely allow you to solve the problem.
 

Buz2b

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I tend to agree with Finite. Sounds like a video card problem. Either that or some other added component now no longer can handle the overclock. Starting from just the basics (as was mentioned) would be an excellent place to begin. Remove all other devices and then check for stability with the overclock. Then add one item at a time back and run a few tests. That should enable you to find the culprit. If it won't stabilize at the basic component level then it would seem to be either some "tweak" in the BIOS that needs gone thru (in the memory area) or possibly the CPU just can't handle it anymore. I have seen that happen. Anyway, start with the video card drivers and go from there to pulling out all the extra components and adding them back in one at a time.
 
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