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Fern

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Originally posted by: liloutlaws
Originally posted by: Toro 45
Originally posted by: liloutlaws
But it does load up with a message that says "Dram timing is too tightly so reload timing..." what does that mean?

Thats telling you your problem your ram can't handle the speed/timmings. Change it from SPD to manual or expert and loosen your timmings, try 3-3-3 or 3-4-4 or better yet try some 3200 like the others mentioned. I've seen spd and auto set my ram tighter than the ram is spec'd for and ram timmings that are to tight almost always cause a reboot.


sorry i'm a newb at setting ram stuff... is 3-3-3
CAS latency 3, RAS precharge 3 and RSA to CAS delay 3?

Yeah, that's it.
 

cubanx

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Hi,

You might want to check eventvwr for errors.

Start > Run . Eventvwr and check the system log for any errors.

 

bfonnes

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Welcome to the Forums What we need here is a full spec list of all the parts, and if you can be specific, that helps (brand & models of stuff, including the memory modules and the power supply).

There's also the security area. Can you give us info on your firewall, antivirus, whether you have risk factors like P2P programs, and what operating system you've got and is it fully patched-up.

and give us your IP address while you're at it

edit: ok, I decided to post something useful. It's called power_good. If your mobo doesn't have that signal from the PSU, a restart will be the result, Confuscious say.

Bfonnes
Edit: PS, that's the orange wire on the motherboard power connector. This is how the reset button on your unit works. It temporarily interrupts the power_good signal, and a restart is the result. I agree with the person that mentioned an UPS ( uninterruptible power supply ). These provide line conditioning on AC power signal, and will ensure that you are getting a clean, and consistent power stream if you are not getting one. I think you can get outlet testers at Radio Shack.
 

Thegonagle

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The biggest potential problem I see is that you're overclocking your memory modules nearly 20%.

Slow down that memory to no more than its rated timings and speed (PC2700 = 166MHz clock); see what happens.

Or get rid of that Mushkin crap and buy some Corsair PC3200, which is what an 800 FSB board should be running. (I've had the better luck with Corsair than Mushkin--Even the unimpressively named Corsair Value Select has been wonderful for me.)
 

liloutlaws

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i will be switching RAM when i get finals done and over with...but would that be a reason for restarts? how do i check power_good anyway?
 

burakbegen

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Dec 17, 2004
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I have the same restarting problem. I can go to Bios screen without problem, it does not restart automatically in Bios. I have checked temperature, it is below 40 C. But when windows loading screen comes, it restarts. And it does not restart at the same point every time, sometimes, it loads 2-3 secs, then restarts, sometimes immediately, every 5-15 trials, it opens windows without a problem. I left my windows open 1 day, no problem, but when I restart it, everything starts from the begining. MY system is as follows:

450W XBlade case
Gigabyte K8NS-PRO
AMD 64 3000+
ATI Radeon 9600XT video card
Mushkin PC3200 512 RAM

I have changed rams, video card, updated all drivers etc. Installed Windows XP with service pack2 couple of times. Nothing seems to be solving the problem. I have read some stuff about service pack 2 giving these kinds of problems.
1) Can it be software related which I strongly believe?
2) OR some faulty IDE cable (I will try to change when I get back home)?
3) Or any new ideas?

I will really appreciate if you guys can help me,
 

burakbegen

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Dec 17, 2004
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People,

I hope this helps, but I have solved my problem. As I described before, I have tried everything but not changing my one month old dvd writer. I have another computer which I have built this new one instead. And I recently bought a dvd writer thinking that I could install it to my new computer. I used this new dvd driver with my old computer for a month without any problems. And When I built the new computer, I installed it to the new one. Today, I figured out that it is having some kind of problems with my motherboard. I have disconnected it for a try and windows opened without problems. Then I have connected my old cdwriter and dvd player from old computer - no problems. I don't know why but the new dvd writer works with the old computer but not with the new one. Try this and it helps please let me know. see you...
 

alphafemale

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Dec 22, 2004
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Hey guys,
I have had 2 pc's with this problem... it wouldn't start up, or I would get that "Dram too tightly..." message. I fixed one of them by resetting the FSB Mode Jumper to safe mode on my mobo and choosing "load bios defaults" in cmos. After doing that and with the pc shutdown, I put the jumper back to user mode. look in your mobo manual if you dont know what im talking about.
The other computer is still waiting for corsair replacements for me to see if this solution will work.
 

liloutlaws

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Nov 22, 2004
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funny i tried using ddr400 as you guys have suggested over the break...still has the same problem...dram loaded too tightly..could it be faulty mobo?
 

Jiggz

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Lemme see if I can give you a ran down on what could cause reboots or start ups. But before that you need to test your system first.

1. Dismount the mobo and place on top of a box or insulated material and locate it close enough to the case so you can still attached the psu.
2. Install RAMs, CPU w/ HSF, 1 HDD, 1 CD Rom and Video Card.
3. Connect the monitor and KB and Mouse.
4. Power On and enter bios.
5. Set bios to default settings.

With this setup you are doing what they call "Process of Elimination". With bare hardware setup like the above, you've eliminated possible problems with Shorting to Ground, PSU, and Overheating. Now does the system still reboots? If it does then you can narrow it down to the above list. And the only way to find out which one is to replace each one at a time.

Goodluck.
 

Krynis

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nah a friend of a friend's friend tried holy water on a PC once and he had to replace everything including his house.
 

liloutlaws

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Originally posted by: Jiggz
Lemme see if I can give you a ran down on what could cause reboots or start ups. But before that you need to test your system first.

1. Dismount the mobo and place on top of a box or insulated material and locate it close enough to the case so you can still attached the psu.
2. Install RAMs, CPU w/ HSF, 1 HDD, 1 CD Rom and Video Card.
3. Connect the monitor and KB and Mouse.
4. Power On and enter bios.
5. Set bios to default settings.

With this setup you are doing what they call "Process of Elimination". With bare hardware setup like the above, you've eliminated possible problems with Shorting to Ground, PSU, and Overheating. Now does the system still reboots? If it does then you can narrow it down to the above list. And the only way to find out which one is to replace each one at a time.

Goodluck.

could cd drive cause reboots?
 

suixxgeneris

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Jan 17, 2005
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I was having the same problem as you............ "Dram timing too tightly" messages, frequent reboots, etc.
It had nothing to do with the memory!!! As I found out after 2 corsair RMA's... I also replaced/swapped out various parts, thinking it was a faulty m/b, psu, cd-rom drive, switched to a different wall socket, changed cables, replaced modules, etc, but I still kept getting reboots. Do you know what finally worked? You are going to laugh. I narrowed it down to a heating problem. So I bought 2 more fans... still didn't work. So one day, I take a look at my heat sink/cpu... Turns out, the fan had no way of blowing air into my cpu because it was covered with lint. It took me about 10 minutes to take all the lint out by blowing it and cleaning with Qtip (they dont sell those air pressure cans anymore). Anyway, I also applied a new layer of thermal compound. And whaddayaknow... pc worked. Your m/b is probably automatically shutting down because it is detecting a cpu overheat. I was lucky mine didn't actually fry...try what I did and good luck!!!
 
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