Computer randomly reboot

TDY2KN01

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I just upgraded my computer from 1.4ghz T-bird with K7S5A to a 1800xp+ with a Epox 8kHA+, and my computer has been rebooting ramdomly. This happen usually when I'm dling something in mIRC. Also, I tried to disable the auto restart when hardware/software fail and I got the BSOD. Anyone know what is causing my computer to restart?

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1800 XP+
8KHA+
256MB Crucial DDR
24X Liteon burner
400 watts Future Power PSU
4mb ATI video card AGP(Yes I know it sucks, but I dont have time to play game since I'm a college student)
80gb WD HDD
40gb WD HDD
 

Mac

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My best guess is that it is heat related. The mobo probably came with some type of hardware monitoring tools...turn that on and monitor.

Also, don't know much about "Future" PSU's but it may not be able to providing clean power.

One last thing, check the obvious, make sure the power reset switch isn't partially stuck. Snap/flick it a couple of times to make sure it all the way out. If you have any doubts, remove it completely from the mobo. Like the power switch on an ATX case, it also a momentary switch.

 

o1die

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I would raise the cpu voltage slightly, and use slower memory timing settings. Experiment until you find the best settings and your problem should go away.
 

Xelloss

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Well... you did reinstall windows after the switch, right?

First thing I thought of was that auto-reboot switch in windows, but you already know about that. It's important to make the distinction that the hardware is not just rebooting itself. That's a whole other problem. What you've got is something making windows fault, which in turn makes windows want to reboot itself. It could still be hardware related, but you've also got to look at the possiblity that it's an AWOL driver or something. If you're having problems with mIRC, my first (wild) guess would be fiddle with the network card driver. Maybe it's causing crashes when certain operations are performed.
 

jonnyGURU

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I would think there's an issue with the board. Especially if it's the same RAM and same power supply as before (the two most common causes for random reboots). Do you still have the 1.4 GHz CPU that you can throw into the Epox to eliminate that the CPU is the cause?
 

TDY2KN01

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I just got a gf2 today and it still restart randomly. Here is some of the answer to your questions. I did do a complete install after I switch motherboard and cpu. I dont have my 1.4ghz with me. I'm gonna try Prime and MemTest-86 to check for CPU and Memory problem. In the bios, I check my temp to be 40c. Also, I just update to the latest official bios version. That help some what since my computer doesnt spontaneously restart my computer after 10 min of loggin on mIRC, but a little longer. I still think this is the motherboard problem (VIA) then all my other conponents.
 

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check the 5V line for your PSU with a monitoring program, epox boards are very poorly designed that way. They use the 5V line for a lot, and a Future Power PSU may not be able to handle it, I've used those PSUs before, and they are generally good.
 

jonnyGURU

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<< I still think this is the motherboard problem (VIA) then all my other conponents. >>



For the record, I hate VIA as much as the next guy, and I think it's a motherboard problem BUT a random reboot problem is not a "VIA issue". It's gonna be flat out bad hardware unless you determine otherwise by doing a clean install. And even if that fixes it, I wouldn't blame VIA. You'd typically have issues changing from one chipset to another no matter what if you don't reinstall the OS.
 

Xelloss

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You said that once you'd disabled the Windows auto-reboot you now get a BSOD. What's on the Blue Screen? There's usually some sort of (cryptic) error message. You might be able to get some sort of idea of where the problem is occurring by doing a search in google or (shudder) even asking Microsoft.
Also, if you're using Win2K, check the system logs. Sometimes they're helpful.
 

TDY2KN01

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I didnt copy down the whole error msg but I only copy the necessary errors.
"DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL"
"STOP: 0X000000D1 (0X00000004, 0X0000002, 0X00000000, 0X000004)
I dont think that is exact zeros but I think that is close enough. I'm gonna try updating my detonator drv and see that fix it.
 

TDY2KN01

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I've been reading some of the post over amdmb's forum and I've found alot of user have the very same problem as I did. They suggest to check the 5V line, however most people still have the problem even though they have a good PSU. I havent found a fix that work. This is my first time running a VIA base chipset motherboard and I'm under the impression that I shouldnt gone with this motherboard. I've heard from friends to stay away from via motherboards. Now I know what they meant. Until there is a fix for this, I'd probably won't buy or recommend a VIA chipset motherboard to any of my friend.
 

jonnyGURU

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As I said before; I don't like VIA chipsets either (I use AMD 761 chipsets for my Athlon machines), but this is hardly a chipset issue. Where I work we sell Biostar, Microstar, Soyo and Gigabyte boards with VIA chipsets and of the 1000 motherboards that ship out of here in the course of a day, I might get one a week back that has a "random reboot" problem and it has NOTHING to do with the chipset. It's just a BAD BOARD and replacing it with the EXACT SAME BOARD fixes the problem completley.

You can go ahead and ignorantly blame the problem on the VIA chipset. I say reinstall 2000 and if it doesn't work, get the board replaced BECAUSE IT'S DEFECTIVE, not because it has a VIA chipset. If you're not willing to do this, go right aheadand build a P4 for your next PC.
 

TDY2KN01

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I just observe my northbridge fan and it slow down tremendously. I was wondering if this is because of the motherboard or my power supply. Secondly, should return my motherboard for different one or get the same one.
 

TDY2KN01

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I also check the bios and it reported 4.75v for the v5. I hope this help clear a few thing up.
 

ShinSa

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I built a system around a epox 8KHA+ for a friend before. It seems that this reboot problem is not uncommon for this board and she had a simmilar problem

Swapped out for an Asus and problem went away.
 

MorbentFell

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I recently built nearly the exact same system, but better vid card , and 1 IBM 60GXP, and I have had no probs; very stable, with default settings. I'd stay away from the ECS mobo. Had bad experience with similar type of prob with ECS.
 

mudboy

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I had a similar problem yesterday...uninstalled the Sound Blaster Live drivers I had installed a couple of days before (prior to that I was using default Win2K drivers) and the problem went away.

My point? If your hardware setup has been stable/unchanged but you recently installed software and then started having this sort of thing happening, try uninstalling the software and rebooting first...it worked for me.

Pete
 

TDY2KN01

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This is strange. I left my computer 24/7 to encode divx and it hasn't reboot. However, when I use mIRC and download stuff, it reboots. That happen everytime. Can this be a problem related to NIC card? I'm using Linksys NIC. thx
 

TDY2KN01

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I fixed it. My motherboard rebooting by itself whenever I dl stuff from mIRC is because of the NIC card. I replace it with a realtek and it working fine now. I retract everything I say about VIA.
 
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