computer science degree?

[narreth]

I'm in high school -about to choose universities and i keep hearing terrible things about the CS job market. Can anyone of you ( who are in the CS sector ) provide some insight into this?

 

[sdifox]

Lol, now there is a glut since a lot of people enrolled just before the internet bubble burst.

 

[SillyOReilly]

Move to India and you'll find plenty of work.

 

[Vehemence]

Get a degree in philosophy.

 

[AFB]

Who's telling you bad things about the CS market?

I'm getting my CS degree and the only bad things I've been told is "we're limiting the number of interns this year" because we can't sacrifice full time people to train you (it's not the economy, it's the lack of people to hire). There are lots of jobs for qualified people.

Not sure about I.T., that's always a fun group.

 

[Aikouka]

I didn't have a problem finding a job two years ago.

 

[apac]

I got 4 very good job offers when I graduated in January 07. Unless the market has tanked since then, you'll be fine. 2 tips to succeed once you're out of school:

1) develop a passion for the work, it makes all the difference in how much you learn
2) be proactive in getting internships while in school, starting freshman year. The ones that don't get good jobs out of school are the people who take summer jobs at Target or go home and party.

 

[theknight571]

Depends on where you are, I suppose.

I had no problem finding a job after graduating in '93.

However, when I got laid off last year, it took me 6 months to find a new job... and I ended up taking a large pay cut to get it.

I'm in the Detroit / SE Michigan area.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: SillyOReilly
Move to India and you'll find plenty of work.

Actually not true anymore. It got saturated there and many Corporations pulled back ( that accent was just never overcome).

Many Corporations are now setting up shop on the northeast coast of Africa since they are running fiber optic lines from the Middle East.

Africans in that area apparently speak very good english.

In doesn't hurt that they will work for 25 cents an hour either.

 

[narreth]

If I do Electrical Engineering/Computer Engineering would I still be employable in the software development industry?

 

[apac]

Originally posted by: narreth
If I do Electrical Engineering/Computer Engineering would I still be employable in the software development industry?

If you want to be in software, why would you go that route?

 

[Deeko]

1) Don't be stupid, major in something you want to do. If you want to do CS, do CS. I majored in CS, went to school in 2002 - at peak of the bubble being burst and the market being flooded with too many people. Why? Because it's what I wanted to do.
2) The market is fine. I graduated last year and had plenty of job offers.
3) If you're still in high school, you won't be graduating college till what....2013? Today's job market != 2013's job market, which further reinforces my first point

 

[Special K]

1. Get CS Degree
2. start web 2.0 site in garage
3. IPO
4. Profit

 

[Vehemence]

Originally posted by: Special K
1. Get CS Degree
2. start web 2.0 site in garage
3. IPO
4. Profit

Just skip step 1 for even more $$$s!

 

[oddyager]

Being a CS major was painful 8-10 years ago but its improved a lot since. There's a demand around here in the Tri-State area for entry level software developers, qa analysts, etc so it depends on your area, too. Pick a major you WANT to be in and go with it.

 

[MrChad]

We've had trouble finding strong programmer talent out of college in the last year or so. I would say it depends the area in which you're looking. New York and Washington D.C. are strong markets for programmers. Just remember, the market is looking for folks who have talent beyond just coding. You need strong communication and analytical skills to be successful.

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: narreth
If I do Electrical Engineering/Computer Engineering would I still be employable in the software development industry?

absolutely

plus, your eece degree affords more flexibility than a cs degree

 

[narreth]

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: narreth
If I do Electrical Engineering/Computer Engineering would I still be employable in the software development industry?

absolutely

plus, your eece degree affords more flexibility than a cs degree

That was exactly what I had in mind, more flexibility.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: narreth

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: narreth
If I do Electrical Engineering/Computer Engineering would I still be employable in the software development industry?

absolutely

plus, your eece degree affords more flexibility than a cs degree

That was exactly what I had in mind, more flexibility.

More flexibility for what? Do you want to write software? Do you want to design chips? While you could probably find a programming job with a CE degree, why would you major in something you don't want to do, for the sake of future flexibility?

Say you major in CS. After a few years, you decide you want to do CE work. That's why they invented Masters degrees....go get a MS in CE.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: narreth
If I do Electrical Engineering/Computer Engineering would I still be employable in the software development industry?

Yep. I have a BSEE and an MSEE and I got a job as a software developer during the .NET boom. While working, I also got a MS in CS since they had good education benefits where I work (they paid for it).

 

[StormRider]

BTW, I think you should major in something you have a passion for learning about and not worry about the future job market. The job market could be hot now but then cold 4 years later (when you're graduating) or cold now and hot 4 years from now (but unfortunately you decided to major in something else because the job market was cold when you entered college).

 

[Riverhound777]

I have a CS degree, but I am a System Admin. Harder to outsource IT jobs.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: sdifox
Lol, now there is a glut since a lot of people enrolled just before the internet bubble burst.

according to all trends the IS/IT sector is in need of QUALIFIED individuals. Problem is too many think that because they can install Vista or overclock their GPU, they are now experts.

on the flip side there are a lot of people with a buttload of certs but simply lack the people skills to make a good teammate.

There are plenty of lower tier jobs still for both of the above.

 

[narreth]

im not sure what i want to do yet. im in the processes of choosing careers. the stuff im interested in right now are

materials engineering (i like the nanotech part)
computer/electrical engineering (designing CPUs!)
comp sci ( programming)

it's very hard to choose :S

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: sdifox
Lol, now there is a glut since a lot of people enrolled just before the internet bubble burst.

according to all trends the IS/IT sector is in need of QUALIFIED individuals. Problem is too many think that because they can install Vista or overclock their GPU, they are now experts.

on the flip side there are a lot of people with a buttload of certs but simply lack the people skills to make a good teammate.

There are plenty of lower tier jobs still for both of the above.

There are still tons of people hurting from the bust. I know a few people from my class (92) that are still in mid level positions and they are better than me at this shit.

It could be I am just luckier.