Computer Show May 3&4

[ynot167]

Originally posted by: vcarpio2
Got back from the tri-state computer show today. I bought a 32MB USB drive keychain for $20. I think it's a pretty good hot deal considering it's about the same price as a 32MB smartmedia card. The 64MB version goes for $30. Works great! Tested it on 2 computers, no drivers needed to be installed on either.

Great! Was it any of these? Link

 

[vcarpio2]

Great! Was it any of these? Link

I didn't see anything exactly like what I got but they're all very similar-looking. I'd say what I got is a no-name brand (but I suspect they're all no-name brands anyway until a major brand-name oems them). The brand is "S-Mini Drive". It's at http://www.bluwireless.com/products/smini.html.

 

[ynot167]

Originally posted by: vcarpio2

Great! Was it any of these? Link

I didn't see anything exactly like what I got but they're all very similar-looking. I'd say what I got is a no-name brand (but I suspect they're all no-name brands anyway until a major brand-name oems them). The brand is "S-Mini Drive". It's at http://www.bluwireless.com/products/smini.html.

As long as you're happy with the item, then thats all that matters.:beer:

 

[vcarpio2]

As long as you're happy with the item, then thats all that matters.:beer:

Shouldn't I be?

 

[ynot167]

Originally posted by: vcarpio2

As long as you're happy with the item, then thats all that matters.:beer:

Shouldn't I be?

Of course, you should be happy. I don't know too much about these things. Congrats on your purchase

 

[vcarpio2]

Of course, you should be happy. I don't know too much about these things. Congrats on your purchase

Thanks!

Also, I think third party printer ink cartridges are good deals at computer shows, if one doesn't mind using them. I always make it a point to bring home a set of black and color for my daughter's Epson 440 whenever I go to the computer show. But today, I was told by the vendor that he's now selling them for 3 sets -- 3 color and 3 black for a total of 6 -- for $15. Suits me well, I thought. It was cheaper than last I had them (like $7 for the pair) and my daughter is always either running out of ink for printing too much schoolwork, or having ink dried up for not printing for long periods time.

 

[lotust]

Originally posted by: Mizer
Stay away from Computer Shows, your not going to find better deals than the ones you find here and you don't have to pay a cover charge.

IMO Computer Show had a place before the internet blew up or got big, now they're for mom's and pop's who think they're getting a good deal.

 

[ynot167]

Originally posted by: lotust

Originally posted by: Mizer
Stay away from Computer Shows, your not going to find better deals than the ones you find here and you don't have to pay a cover charge.

IMO Computer Show had a place before the internet blew up or got big, now they're for mom's and pop's who think they're getting a good deal.

A delayed gratification by waiting a couple of days for fedex or ups vs getting it at a computer show for 1-2 bucks more???

I think most people, especially those who are getting the newest thing out there, can't wait for the shipping time. Therefore, they'd rather pay that extra buck or so at a computer show. Plus, if there is something wrong with the item, then you can always take it back the next day or even go to the vendor's store or warehouse for exchange.

 

[lotust]

well you still have to wait for the show then pay to get in.... then the chinaman dissapears when you want to return it :frown:

 

[TheVrolok]

I go to the Market Pro Computer Show everytime it's in town(Allentown), not the best place for more major hardware, which can easily be found cheaper online.. but for quick stuff, Fans, Cables, LEDs, Case Lights, even Cases, thermal paste, etc.. it's a nice quick stop.

 

[hawkeyeJN]

I live in northern Japan, nothing but farmers and not a true computer store to be found. I'd give my left n*t for a true computer show, and although it'd be fun haggling, I'd just enjoy buying something I truly need rather than searching for a place that will ship to APO addresses at prices I'm willing to play. Plus, I just love walking around a place with tons of computer components for sale, and money in my pocket to buy on the spot!

 

[ynot167]

Originally posted by: lotust
well you still have to wait for the show then pay to get in.... then the chinaman dissapears when you want to return it :frown:

I think thats kinda racist of you:|

 

[lotust]

Originally posted by: ynot167

Originally posted by: lotust
well you still have to wait for the show then pay to get in.... then the chinaman dissapears when you want to return it :frown:

I think thats kinda racist of you:|

yeah thats me mr.racist
:brokenheart:



some people in this foum need to lighten up.

 

[worcmai]

Originally posted by: ynot167
Yes, you will have to pay to get in $10 in advance, $15 at door. But its worth it.

COMPUTER SHOW

hmmm, promoting company?

 

[ynot167]

Originally posted by: worcmai

Originally posted by: ynot167
Yes, you will have to pay to get in $10 in advance, $15 at door. But its worth it.

COMPUTER SHOW

hmmm, promoting company?

Wish I had a company to promote...not even in the computer business...sorry to dissapoint you

 

[ynot167]

Reminder: This is the last night to save $5 on entrance fee.

 

[eliteramen]

Originally posted by: lotust

Originally posted by: ynot167

Originally posted by: lotust
well you still have to wait for the show then pay to get in.... then the chinaman dissapears when you want to return it :frown:

I think thats kinda racist of you:|

yeah thats me mr.racist
:brokenheart:



some people in this foum need to lighten up.

Lighten up??? You fool, saying "Chinaman" is equivalent to saying the N-word. Watch your mouth.

[eR]

 

[TaylorD]

Lighten up??? You fool, saying "Chinaman" is equivalent to saying the N-word. Watch your mouth.

[eR]

While I am not saying "chinaman" is the preferred nomenclature, surely you cannot imply that it carries the same weight as the N-word. Think of the history attached to the N-word.

On a side note, is it not alright to use "chinaman" if the speaker is indeed a native of china? In a similar way, the n-word is used (by the people it was initially meant to degrade) in songs, and it is not offensive to many people.

 

[Afro000Dude]

MarketPro does shows in So. Cal, and it would be pretty cool if some online vendors *cough* Newegg *cough* Googlegear *cough* were there. I bought a processor and motherboard there about a year ago for ~200, which was cheaper than online at the time for the same parts.

 

[Sahakiel]

Originally posted by: TaylorD

While I am not saying "chinaman" is the preferred nomenclature, surely you cannot imply that it carries the same weight as the N-word. Think of the history attached to the N-word.

"Chinaman" carries the same weight as "Darkie" or "Blackie" so if you want to argue that "Chinaman" is harmless, you'd better be prepared to argue the same for the others.

If you want to know why, go take a good look at U.S. public opinion towards Asians in general, not just the Chinese. All that has changed to any significant extent in the past 150 years is the repeal of state and Federal laws.

On a side note, is it not alright to use "chinaman" if the speaker is indeed a native of china? In a similar way, the n-word is used (by the people it was initially meant to degrade) in songs, and it is not offensive to many people.

I find it hard to believe Chinese would use that term unless they have limited English proficiency and don't know any better. The cultural acceptance just isn't present.

 

[TaylorD]

Originally posted by: Sahakiel

Originally posted by: TaylorD While I am not saying "chinaman" is the preferred nomenclature, surely you cannot imply that it carries the same weight as the N-word. Think of the history attached to the N-word.

"Chinaman" carries the same weight as "Darkie" or "Blackie" so if you want to argue that "Chinaman" is harmless, you'd better be prepared to argue the same for the others. If you want to know why, go take a good look at U.S. public opinion towards Asians in general, not just the Chinese. All that has changed to any significant extent in the past 150 years is the repeal of state and Federal laws.

Ok, answer me this. Were asians brought to this country by force on old ships and in chains? and did they have the same kind of civil rights issues here that african americans have had? That's all I was saying. The history with the N-word is more offensive than any that I am aware of with "chinaman." Also, as I stated previously, I was not saying that "chinaman" was the preferred nomenclature, only that it was less weighty than the N-word. A previous poster had equated the two terms. That is what I took issue with, not the fact that "chinaman" might be offensive to some.

Personally, I don't think there is a single word in the english language that is offensive. The thing that I find offensive is the intent of the speaker.

On a side note, is it not alright to use "chinaman" if the speaker is indeed a native of china? In a similar way, the n-word is used (by the people it was initially meant to degrade) in songs, and it is not offensive to many people.

I find it hard to believe Chinese would use that term unless they have limited English proficiency and don't know any better. The cultural acceptance just isn't present.

OK, here I am not asking if they would, because the answer to whether or not they would is going to be a broad generalization of a large group which you cannot characterize one way or the other. (that would be racism) I am merely asking if it is alright for them to use it?

Also, there are many African-Americans who are appalled at the use of the N-word in songs, but others find it to be not offensive. I would imagine we will find a similar amount of discord among the american population that is of chinese heritage.

I personally am not Chinese, nor African-American - but as stated before, I think the only way anything can be offensive is if it was said with the intent to do harm.

BTW, I like computer shows - that was the original topic, right?

 

[Sahakiel]

Originally posted by: TaylorDOk, answer me this. Were asians brought to this country by force on old ships and in chains? and did they have the same kind of civil rights issues here that african americans have had? That's all I was saying. The history with the N-word is more offensive than any that I am aware of with "chinaman."

As far as I know, no forceful immigration on old ships in chains. No one was given that option, although if the 14th Amendment hadn't been passed, who knows from where the new slaves would have been taken.

Asian Americans have faced some of the same civil rights issus as African Americans and a few of their own. Asian Americans have had to endure their own versions of Jim Crow laws from California to New York; not just in a few states which happened to lose the War of the Rebellion. The issue with being "perpetual foreigners," the limiting of females immigrating, laws passed banning interracial marriage, just to name a few. Asians are also the only group to have been denied immigration and citizenship for over 100 years, especially the Chinese who have the dubious honor of being specifically targeted most often. At the very least, freed slaves were recognized as citizens of the United States and afforded all rights (albeit, not in all states).

Also, as I stated previously, I was not saying that "chinaman" was the preferred nomenclature, only that it was less weighty than the N-word. A previous poster had equated the two terms. That is what I took issue with, not the fact that "chinaman" might be offensive to some.

I take issue with the "less weighty" and "more offensive" approach. There is no difference except for which is used more often, and that is the gist of my problem with it. One word stands out simply because nobody feels like remembering the hundreds which exist, and suddenly it's given "more weight" than all the others combined. A dandelion isn't any less of a weed if it is cared for and watered by its errant gardener.

Personally, I don't think there is a single word in the english language that is offensive. The thing that I find offensive is the intent of the speaker.

Unless someone developed ESP, language is the expression of ideas and thoughts and through that, the expression of intent. The only modifier would be body language (including tone of voice) which, btw, is not present on the forums.

I am merely asking if it is alright for them to use it?

If it were okay, suicide would be legal and masochism would be mainstream.

BTW, I like computer shows - that was the original topic, right?

*sigh* Yet another instance of thread-jacking... oh, when will the horrible, horrible practice be eliminated?
Eh, I get long-winded on certain issues.

 

[MagicOnline]

I have went to some Market Pro shows here in N Cal and from people I have talked to it seems they are happy to pay a little more because they don't trust buying stuff online. Either been burned on eBay or in messge boards, and received dead items, bad advertised merchandise or not received their online purchase at all. At least at the computer show you can test, touch, and meet the person selling to you face to face.

MO

 

[TaylorD]

All I was saying was that the N-word brings up more than just prejudice or stereotype; it brings up images of physical abuse and the SLAVERY of human beings. "Chinaman," while nowhere near appropriate in my eyes, and a word which I have never spoken aloud, does not bring up such graphic images.

Unless someone developed ESP, language is the expression of ideas and thoughts and through that, the expression of intent. The only modifier would be body language (including tone of voice) which, btw, is not present on the forums.

As for this - do you really think if I say F you to my brother, in jest, after he plays a practical joke on me, means the same thing as if I say F you to the man who killed my friends?

Or what about sarcasm? Doesn't the same thing, said in a sarcastic way, have an entirely different meaning?

Intent is most definitely what makes those two different, and you have to read into what people are saying sometimes - you cannot simply take everything at face value. Sometimes you really need to know the context - and even if someone said something that offends you, you have the right to tell them you are offended, but you don't have the right to tell them not to use the word anymore.

Just because the forums do not allow you the benefit of "body language" as you call it (I would say inflection and tone are more important...) does not mean you can simply assume a person has one intent or the other. In my eyes, a proper response to the first posting of "chinaman" would have been "Are you serious? I hope not, I find that word offensive." rather than "watch your mouth"


BTW Suicide is not really a crime anymore - most laws have been repealed or are not enforced. Think about it, who are you going after?

Also, you didnt really answer my question about whether or not the usage would be acceptable if the speaker was indeed chinese.

 

[jbwhite99]

As was mentioned, these shows were in Connecticut all of the time. When I moved to Raleigh, we'd get one about every quarter, and while OK, they weren't spectacular. However, I haven't seen any of these shows in the Phoenix Valley (I live in the East Valley). Does anyone know of a vendor that runs these out here? Marketpro doesn't come out here.