Computer won't boot. No BIOS, nothing.

Lower

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Came home last night and my computer wouldn't boot.
Never seen anything like it - because the fans all start, keyboard lights flash, etc. but nothing ever comes up on screen. Normally I would see my video card bios revision, then the MB bios, then the XP start screen.
I get nothing.
I don't even get the MB beeps that might be helpful in events like this, because it isn't booting that far.

I swapped in an older working video card, with the same results.

This is on my home rig. A Asus P4P800SE, pentium 3.0 HT, 4x512MB RAM, 7900GS AGP rig.

Any suggestions?
 

SlickAU

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Hey Lower,

I had the same problem a few days ago...and im 90% sure it was to do with the motherboard being faulty, so what I did was replace the mobo and then it worked fine.

Check all the cable connections internally. If that fails, then remove your CMOS battery from your mobo and reset your jumpers (see your motherboard manual for more info)...

Good luck,
Slick
 

moforles

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I'm having almost the exact same problem with my new system that ran fine for 2 weeks. Here's the build:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
2 x CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
eVGA NVIDIA GeForce 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3
Samsung SpinPoint HD501LJ 500GB
ASUS DRW-1814BLT (Black 18X DVD+R ?)
Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)


Now, whenever I try to boot, all of the lights and the fans come on for 3 seconds, then they all turn off -- then they turn on again, then they turn off. The computer constantly reboots itself and never even reaches the BIOS screen.

Would replacing the motherboard be the best step?
 

GeorgiaBadger

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Originally posted by: Lower
Came home last night and my computer wouldn't boot.
Never seen anything like it - because the fans all start, keyboard lights flash, etc. but nothing ever comes up on screen. Normally I would see my video card bios revision, then the MB bios, then the XP start screen.
I get nothing.
I don't even get the MB beeps that might be helpful in events like this, because it isn't booting that far.

I swapped in an older working video card, with the same results.

This is on my home rig. A Asus P4P800SE, pentium 3.0 HT, 4x512MB RAM, 7900GS AGP rig.

Any suggestions?

I would do the power supply first (cheap) and then the mobo. I have basically the same situation. Fans, hard drives, cpu fan come on, but no post. I replaced the mb, pulled all the memory, cards, and drives off the mobo with the same result of Zero. Off to replace the power supply.

I had a nasty lightning strike that fried my DSL modem, DSL router, 24 port switch, nic in the wifes laptop, and her fax machine.... plus the server above
 

Swampster

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Hi GeorgiaBadger

Your problem might be a little different than the first one. Here in central Florida, we do a lot of lightening repairs, and from what you say I would suspect it has entered, or tried to enter via your NIC and/or your modem.

If they are cards, remove them and reassess the system. If they are onboard, then disable them in your CMOS settings and reassess.

If that doesn't change anything, give me a shout back and I will take you to a next step.
 

Swampster

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GeorgiaBadger,

Open the case (make sure you are well grounded, everything unpluged from the back, etc.) and unplug everything from the motherboard except the CPU and the 24-pin power plug and the 4,6, or 8 pin auxilary power plug and the little twisted wire pairs that come from the front.

Plug in the power cord and turn its switch to the ON position. Push the button on the front. You should get a beep because there isn't any memory, and if not, then your motherboard is bad.

Using this technique, you can test every thing in order, but you get the idea.

EDIT: The reason I only gave you the abriviated version is because the motherboard is the most likely problem at this point.
 

Buxton

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I have almost the exact same problem as one of the above posters. Brand new system that turns on (fans spin up, etc, etc), but nothing shows on the monitor at all.

Q6600
Gigabyte DS3
Transcend AxeRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
EVGA 512-P2-N548-TX GeForce 7600GS

I tried booting without hdd and dvd drive plugged in, same thing.
Tired booting without memory in, got no beep or anything.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Jason
 

Swampster

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Jason,

Ground yourself, then unplug the power cable from the back of the system. Open it up and unplug the 24-pin connector. Take a small jumper and on the wire side of the plug (so that you don't distort the pin opening), connect one of the commons (black) to the PS ON wire (green). If you power supply is good, when you plug the power cord back in and flip the switch on the back this will activate the power supply and its fan will run.

If this is OK, then remove the jumper, unplug from the back, wait 15 seconds and plug it back into the motherboard. Plug in the power cord and flip the switch on the back to the ON position.

On most motherboards, there is an LED whose purpose is to remind you that even though the computer may seem to be off, it still has juice to the motherboard and you shouldn't play in there until you remove the power source <G>. At this point, it should be glowing to confirm that the motherboard has power. If it is off, then the motherboard is bad OR you have it installed in such a way as to be causing it to be shorted out.

If this is OK, then recheck your tristed pairs of wires from the front usually four pairs) and make sure they are plugged in correctly. Power and Reset are not directional, they just have to be plugged into the correct pins. If the Power wires are switched with the Power LED wires, for example, the first two tests would be OK, but this one little thing would keep it from starting. The Power LED and HDD LED wires ARE directional. The white is "-" and the colored wire is "+". If either of these are plugged in backwards, it will not keep it from booting, but is will keep that LED from working.

If all this is correct, then considering that this is a new build, and not one that has been operating, take the motherboard out and remove the CPU and the Memory. Place it on the antistatic bag it was shipped in and plug in the two power cables and the the twisted pair labeled Power.

Plug in and turn on the power supply and press the ON button and you should get beeps because nothing is installed. If no beeps . . . the motherboard is bad. If you get beeps, then install the CPU and its cooler/fan assembly and make sure you plug in the CPU fan to the motherboard.

You remembered to remove the power source before you did this . . . right? OK, power in and try to turn it on and it should give a single beep because it still doesn't see any memory. No beeps at this point usually means that the CPU is defective.

If you did get a single beep, power out, add one stick of memory, power back in, and try to turn it on. Power Supply fan and CPU fan should be on and stay on.

If so, and you have an onboard video system you can plug the monitor in live, turn it on, and you should see the POST screen and at this point it would be stopped with the error that it can't find a bootable device. (If you are using a plug-in video card, power out, plug it in, attach the monitor to it and power in and turn on.)

If you have video, then power out, plug in one HDD and power in . . . turn on and you should see the HDD being recognized as it runs the POST and you will have the same error because it is blank. Plug in one CD drive and try again . . . results should be the same.

If you have gotten this far, you have fairly well validated all your main modules and you can then reinstall the motherboard, making sure you have all the appropriate standoffs in place. Your CPU and memory are still in the motherboard, so all you will want to plug in is the front wires, the power cables, the one HDD and the one CD drive. If you didn't short out the board in the install process, you should now be able to put the install disk in the drive and attempt a boot.

If you made it this far, then the suspition would be that you somehow had the motherboard shorted out on the first attempt, but now it is in there correctly. HOWEVER, just to be safe, go ahead and do the operating system install. Any additional cards or drives can be added one at a time (make sure to power out before going back in each time), and allowed to be recognized by the operating system ONE AT A TIME. Too many new devices added on the same reboot will cause a problem with the newly installed operating system, and in any case we need to test them individually.

A shorted out modem, for example, would give the exact symptoms you report, but it is unlikely in a new system with all new parts, so you don't want to start here.

Let us know the results.
 

Lower

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Replaced the MB. Problem solved.

But new trouble has shwon up.
My Creative Labs Audigy isn't being recognized by the creative drivers.
Preliminary searches show it to be an issues with the APIC writting to the EEPROM on the card?!?!
Grrr.
 

Buxton

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Well, my PSU passed the jumper test and the connections to the front were fine (I've only had the power switch connected, but that's been working all along without issue). I tried firing it up with no cpu and no memory and got no beeps or anything. On that note I will be RMA'ing the mobo. Now let's just hope newegg ships fast. I'll update this thread again when the new board gets here and I try things out again. Thanks for the help Swampster.
 

Buxton

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Also, the DS3 seems to have no onboard LED to show that its getting power like Swampster was talking about.... unless I'm really missing something here.
 

imported_Baloo

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Originally posted by: Buxton
Well, my PSU passed the jumper test and the connections to the front were fine (I've only had the power switch connected, but that's been working all along without issue). I tried firing it up with no cpu and no memory and got no beeps or anything. On that note I will be RMA'ing the mobo. Now let's just hope newegg ships fast. I'll update this thread again when the new board gets here and I try things out again. Thanks for the help Swampster.

If you try to power it on with no CPU, you will get no beeps. Those beeps are codes. Guess what proccess the data to generate codes? yep, the CPU. So with no CPU, you got nothing to process the CMOS data, you get no beeps.

This all sound like Power Supply failures.
 

Buxton

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Well, I just got the new mobo from newegg (yes, shipping to and from GA can be that slow) and everything boots up fine now and I'm in the process of install windows (formatting 750gb hdds takes too long). Thanks for all the help guys.

Bux
 
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