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Mahigan

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Why an i5@3.5 for 1080 but an i7@4 for 4k when everybody knows that 4k will run slower than 1080 so you won't need a faster CPU?
Cause the devs called technical support and that's what they told them.

Probably because of DX12 multi-threaded rendering + Asynchronous compute.

Yeah, this game also incorporates Asynchronous compute.
 

gamervivek

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Your analogy falls apart from the beginning. You dont have to buy or install any parts to overclock. And actually, except for a very, very few games, the 980Ti starts out equal or faster and pulls ahead even further when overclocked.

980Ti is slower than Fury X at 4k according to TPU despite games like anno2205 in the mix. So 'very, very few games' is a figment of your imagination. Even games where Fury X is leading by double digits aren't that rare.
 

PhonakV30

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Because of this Recommended for 4K
OS: 64 bit Windows 10 - version 1511
Processor: Intel Core i7 @ 4Ghz or AMD FX 8-core
Memory: 16 GB RAM (6+ GB VRAM)
Graphics: Geforce GTX 980 Ti or Radeon Fury X
Hard Drive: SSD + 60 GB available space
DirectX 12

Rise of the Tomb raider ,according to reviewer, was tested on R9 390X and they got 7GB Vram+ 4.5GB system ram , Now this one 16+6 = 22GB.they should stop doing that , and if you check various reviews of "Rise of the Tomb Raider" , you see that 8GB of R9 390X can not beat Fury X at 4K.maybe only this game, who knows.
 

desprado

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980Ti is slower than Fury X at 4k according to TPU despite games like anno2205 in the mix. So 'very, very few games' is a figment of your imagination. Even games where Fury X is leading by double digits aren't that rare.

GTX 980 Ti reference?
 

desprado

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Rise of the Tomb raider ,according to reviewer, was tested on R9 390X and they got 7GB Vram+ 4.5GB system ram , Now this one 16+6 = 22GB.they should stop doing that , and if you check various reviews of "Rise of the Tomb Raider" , you see that 8GB of R9 390X can not beat Fury X at 4K.maybe only this game, who knows.

Every upcoming AAA game will require more then 4GB on 4k. Games like shadow of mordor, Rise of the tomb raider, Dying light, etc cannot be max out on fury X. Some settings need to be compromised on 4k to lower vram usage for Fury X.
 

Bacon1

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GTX 980 Ti reference?

Dude give it up already please, its getting tiring. Not everyone OC's, the cards already use a boost clock.

Not to mention that its possible to OC Fury as well, many people get 5-10% PERF gains not just OC %.
 

Bacon1

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Every upcoming AAA game will require more then 4GB on 4k. Games like shadow of mordor, Rise of the tomb raider, Dying light, etc cannot be max out on fury X. Some settings need to be compromised on 4k to lower vram usage for Fury X.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_Fury_Tri-X_OC/22.html

Really? Cuz even Fury AIR on early drivers handled SoM fine @ 4k, beating out a 980 TI!

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Rise_of_the_Tomb_Raider/4.html

Hmm... again... Fury X is leading FPS wise @ 4k...

Funny how that 4GB doesn't seem to be holding it back at all...

Can you please stay on topic now?
 

Bacon1

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Probably because of DX12 multi-threaded rendering + Asynchronous compute.

Yeah, this game also incorporates Asynchronous compute.

There been any details? Been waiting for some word from DICE / About Frostbite and DX12.
 

ThatBuzzkiller

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There been any details? Been waiting for some word from DICE / About Frostbite and DX12.

Frostbite already supports DX12 but I doubt PvZ:GW uses it since it's a low profile project. Games need to adopt DX12 relatively early so the fuss about Crystal Dynamics not including DX12 in RoTR because Nvidia paid them to is just an unsubstantiated claim ...
 
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desprado

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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_Fury_Tri-X_OC/22.html

Really? Cuz even Fury AIR on early drivers handled SoM fine @ 4k, beating out a 980 TI!

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Rise_of_the_Tomb_Raider/4.html

Hmm... again... Fury X is leading FPS wise @ 4k...

Funny how that 4GB doesn't seem to be holding it back at all...

Can you please stay on topic now?

Still has same problem

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18712893

Read all the post topic

Kaap owns 4 Fury X and it is nightmare on 4k if you max some games settings specially Dying light, Shadow of mordor, Rise of the Tomb Radier etc.
 

Bacon1

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Still has same problem

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18712893

Read all the post topic

Kaap owns 4 Fury X and it is nightmare on 4k if you max some games settings specially Dying light, Shadow of mordor, Rise of the Tomb Radier etc.

Stop, just stop. I just showed you benchmarks for those games, and Fury lead them all.

You can't play any of them Maxed out @ 4k with a single card with playable framerates, so thats pointless to compare.

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Yeah I've seen the tweet about wanting all games DX12 by holiday, but wondering if there were any specifics . I see the PvZ requirements mentioned DX12 but nothing else.
 

Mahigan

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Every upcoming AAA game will require more then 4GB on 4k. Games like shadow of mordor, Rise of the tomb raider, Dying light, etc cannot be max out on fury X. Some settings need to be compromised on 4k to lower vram usage for Fury X.

They can be pushed up when a single FuryX is present, when running two in Crossfire it can sometimes be problematic.
 

desprado

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Stop, just stop. I just showed you benchmarks for those games, and Fury lead them all.

You can't play any of them Maxed out @ 4k with a single card with playable framerates, so thats pointless to compare.

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Yeah I've seen the tweet about wanting all games DX12 by holiday, but wondering if there were any specifics . I see the PvZ requirements mentioned DX12 but nothing else.
The guy who has 4 fury X knows better then you and has enough experience to claim things.
 

TheELF

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Probably because of DX12 multi-threaded rendering + Asynchronous compute.

Yeah, this game also incorporates Asynchronous compute.

Yeah well, you don't need to do more work with more threads if you are getting less FPS, that's the whole point.
The lower the FPS are the less work the CPU has to do.
 
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The guy who has 4 fury X knows better then you and has enough experience to claim things.

Actually if you run a QuadFire rig, you have enough GPU power to crank max AND max MSAA or SSAA at 4K, at which point, 4GB vram is NOT enough.

This should be quite obvious and well known.

4GB however, is plenty for single GPU and even 2 GPUs, because they lack the performance to max settings AND use MSAA/SSAA. They have to make do with FXAA/SMAA.

So yes, at the rare 4 GPU setup, Fury X is pretty crap.

However, in CF v SLI, it dominates and even factory OC 980TI can't match them. You need to max OC the 980TI SLI to match stock CF Fury X, and that's in DX11.

The lead will only grow in the DX12 era.

This is great for gamers who hold onto their GPUs for a few years, but doesn't matter to folks who upgrade often.

The one thing I don't get, is you desperado, you like to rub it in and make fun of people who buy Fury X. You often compare it to custom OC 980TI that are more expensive. Yet you ignore the advantage of Fury X, it may suit people more who like their rigs to be quiet and cool running, all that heat out the case. Water cooling has its advantages. Despite this, they are quite close on performance in many DX11 titles.

Now the trend in DX12 so far is Fury X gets a nice boost. 2016 so far has a good line up of AAA DX12 titles, you may find, by the middle of 2016, Fury X pulls ahead more. So, why the nasty attitude? You enjoy your 980Ti OC, let others enjoy their Fury X.
 
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Bacon1

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Actually if you run a QuadFire rig, you have enough GPU power to crank max AND max MSAA or SSAA at 4K, at which point, 4GB vram is NOT enough.

This should be quite obvious and well known.

4GB however, is plenty for single GPU and even 2 GPUs, because they lack the performance to max settings AND use MSAA/SSAA. They have to make do with FXAA/SMAA.

So yes, at the rare 4 GPU setup, Fury X is pretty crap.

However, in CF v SLI, it dominates and even factory OC 980TI can't match them. You need to max OC the 980TI SLI to match stock CF Fury X, and that's in DX11.

The lead will only grow in the DX12 era.

This is great for gamers who hold onto their GPUs for a few years, but doesn't matter to folks who upgrade often.

Considering how badly SLI scales past two cards, neither going 3+ cards will run well, maybe 390(x)s.
 
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Considering how badly SLI scales past two cards, neither going 3+ cards will run well, maybe 390(x)s.

This is the other point, Quad SLI scales horribly. So that vram advantage is moot.

Anyone remember the epic Quad Titan X vs Quad Fury X 4K youtube benchmark? Titan X got wrecked cos SLI didn't scale well beyond 2 GPUs. -_-

So @desperado, instead of attacking Fury X, ask NV to improve SLI, better use of your time & efforts.
 

Mahigan

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I like that PC Linus built with several Nano's. 8 gamers on a single PC. It was an awesome build. Overboard but very original.
 

desprado

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This is the other point, Quad SLI scales horribly. So that vram advantage is moot.

Anyone remember the epic Quad Titan X vs Quad Fury X 4K youtube benchmark? Titan X got wrecked cos SLI didn't scale well beyond 2 GPUs. -_-

So @desperado, instead of attacking Fury X, ask NV to improve SLI, better use of your time & efforts.

SLI and CF are waste money and time. I hope both camp just concentrate on single GPU performance.
 

Bacon1

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SLI and CF are waste money and time. I hope both camp just concentrate on single GPU performance.

Which 4GB on Fury has no issues @ 4k... so guess we agree its not an issue then?

Can we get back on topic for PvZ?
 
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