Conan O?Brien Loses Late-Night Lead in Second Week on ?Tonight Show?

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fallon has gotten a lot better since his debut... i don't watch him much but he seems to be very tech savvy (as far as late night hosts go), previewed the palm pre and xbox nadal.
Then he should be hosting techtv.
 
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Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I've never found Conan funny at all. I tried, because there's not much else on when he's on, but he's just not funny at all to me. I can definitely see why his ratings would crumble. I wonder who they're going to replace him with......

I know this is hard to hear, but your sense of humor sucks.
 

arkcom

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Originally posted by: JS80
anyone surprised? o'brien's a lefty unfunny douchebag.

ahhhhahahahahaha

you are comic gold!

Even if it were true, that's not why he's losing in the ratings. Letterman is much more left than Conan.
 

dullard

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Conan is very funny - as long as he isn't the one in front of the camera. He should stick to writing. Just about anyone else would be better than Conan as a host IF Conan was the writer.
 

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actually this week Conan has been doing better:

Conan O'Brien's "Tonight Show" reversed its ratings decline and showed growth for the first time Wednesday night. Also, new ratings for O'Brien's first week behind the "Tonight" desk give NBC a record-setting lead over CBS' "Late Show" among adults 18-49.

After seven nights of drops, NBC's "Tonight" may have found its bottom. The talk show rebounded 10% from Monday's performance, climbing to a 3.2 last night in the household ratings.

That was enough to edge out David Letterman's "Late Show," which had bested O'Brien's "Tonight" in the overnights for the first time Tuesday evening. Letterman pulled a 3.1 rating, dropping slightly from the previous night.

Letterman's lower number comes after headline-making jokes about Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's daughter. On Wednesday's show, Letterman gave a lengthy explanation/apology for his comments, and invited Palin onto his program (video below). O'Brien welcomed Dane Cook as guest; Letterman had Kathy Griffin and Stupid Human Tricks.

Though overnight household ratings (which measure approximate overall viewership) have grown tighter between the two programs since O'Brien took over "The Tonight Show," newly released adult demo numbers portray last week's competition as an NBC blowout.

The advertiser-coveted adults 18-49 ratings give O'Brien a 2.3 average rating last week -- the highest-rated week for "Tonight" in more than four years and a 156% margin over CBS' "Late Show."

Even excluding the high-rated Monday premiere, "Tonight" held an 111% advantage over "Late Show," marking the best percentage advantage over the CBS program in more than 10 years. Even on their closest night, Friday, O'Brien received a 1.5 rating to Letterman's 0.8.

The numbers helped push ?Late Night with Jimmy Fallon? to its highest weeklong demo rating yet (1.0), with a 67% margin over CBS?s ?Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson." Also, "Last Call with Carson Daly" delivered its biggest rating (0.6) since 2007.

NBC issued a press release declaring O'Brien "The New King of Late Night."

?This is beyond our wildest expectations,? said Rick Ludwin, executive vp, late night and primetime series, NBC Entertainment. ?Conan has brought new younger viewers to 11:35 pm and we're gratified that the demographic trend has continued here in week two, where the early numbers continue to show dominant victories, in all the key categories, for ?The Tonight Show?.?

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QueBert

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Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I've never found Conan funny at all. I tried, because there's not much else on when he's on, but he's just not funny at all to me. I can definitely see why his ratings would crumble. I wonder who they're going to replace him with......

His humor is oddball, to me someone funny would be a comedian I'd pay to see do stand up. I couldn't imagine Conan doing a 90 minute stand up special and anyone liking it. His awkwardness appeals to his fans, but I wouldn't really say he's funny funny. His show has funny moments, but they're mostly from the skits. And his interacting with Max sucks ass. Max is like some sort of robot. Jay & Kevin go back and forth and it seems natural and makes me chuckle. Conan & Max, it's just awkward to watch them talking. I don't even like Letterman, but Dave & Paul have good chemistry.
 

NFS4

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The fight is on!

O?Brien Wields Youth Against Letterman in Late-Night

June 11 (Bloomberg) -- Conan O?Brien, whose ?Tonight Show? trailed David Letterman?s ?Late Show? two nights ago, retook the ratings lead with help from the younger viewers advertisers covet as the new contest for late night intensifies.

O?Brien has given Letterman an opening since taking over the show from Jay Leno on June 1, with a shrinking audience for each of the next six shows. Last night he edged ahead of Letterman once more. Throughout, O?Brien has drawn more viewers aged 18 to 49, NBC Entertainment said today in a statement.

?Tonight Show? attracted a 2.3 rating among those younger viewers from June 1 to June 5, compared with a 0.9 rating for New York-based CBS Corp.?s ?Late Show,? NBC said, citing data from Nielsen Co.

?The race has just begun,? said Shari Anne Brill, senior vice president of audience analysis at New York advertising firm Carat USA. ?This was the first week and there was a jolt of curiosity.?

Last night, ?Tonight Show? drew 3.2 percent of U.S. TV homes, compared with 3.1 percent for Letterman, NBC said. Under Leno, the ?Tonight Show? was the most-watched late-night program for 14 years.

NBC parent General Electric Co., based in Fairfield, Connecticut, rose 6 cents to $13.46 at 4:15 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. CBS Corp. fell 17 cents to $8.16 and has lost less than 1 percent this year.

Handicap the Race

By the end of the year, Letterman will overtake O?Brien?s ?Tonight Show? in total audience and viewers 18 to 49 because of his mainstream appeal, Brill estimates.

?He has become the de-facto, mainstream late-night talk show host now,? she said.

This week?s ?Late Show? guests included radio personality Howard Stern, who mocked Leno and O?Brien on air, and actress Julia Roberts, who talked with Letterman about his wedding in March.

Letterman was drawn into news reports this week by Sarah Palin, who was upset at a sexual joke the ?Late Show? host made on June 8 about the Alaska governor?s daughter. He apologized and offered Palin an appearance on the show, a request the former Republican vice-presidential candidate declined.

O?Brien, 46, airs taped sketches and stunts, a departure from Leno that will help O?Brien appeal to younger viewers, said John Rash, director of media analysis at Campbell Mithun in Minneapolis.

Youth Vote

Younger viewers, who have drifted to the Internet, video games and cable TV, have stayed with O?Brien in greater numbers compared with Letterman and Leno.

?Late Night,? O?Brien?s former show, drew 486,000 viewers aged 18-34 this season, a 29 percent drop compared with the 1993-1994 average, according to Nielsen data. Leno?s audience in that age group fell 40 percent in the same period to 735,000, while Letterman?s shrank 78 percent to 501,000.

NBC first aired the ?Tonight Show? in 1954 with host Steve Allen. Jack Paar inherited the program in 1957 and Johnny Carson took over in 1962, joined by sidekick Ed McMahon and band leader Doc Severinsen. In 1992, NBC handed the job to Leno, passing over Letterman, now 62.

Under Leno, who will start a prime-time talk show on Sept. 14, the ?Tonight Show? averaged 5.04 million viewers a night in his final season, according to Nielsen.

?I long for the days of ?Here?s Johnny,?? Brill said, referring to McMahon?s nightly introduction of Carson. ?I just don?t know if Conan?s the right person to carry that mantle. He has all summer to work out the kinks before Leno?s show starts.?

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zerocool84

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Originally posted by: dullard
Conan is very funny - as long as he isn't the one in front of the camera. He should stick to writing. Just about anyone else would be better than Conan as a host IF Conan was the writer.

I got annoyed with Conan after a couple of months watching him and he relies too much on kiddie humor for the new time slot he's in.
 

lupi

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i'd like to meet these old people yall are talking about that watch tv past midnight.
 

thomsbrain

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That's because people who watched the "Tonight Show" don't like things that are funny. If they did, they wouldn't have watched the "Tonight Show." Conan is actually funny, so obviously they are losing their core audience in droves. Luckily, America can always count on Letterman to not be funny.
 
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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
That's because people who watched the "Tonight Show" don't like things that are funny. If they did, they wouldn't have watched the "Tonight Show." Conan is actually funny, so obviously they are losing their core audience in droves. Luckily, America can always count on Letterman to not be funny.

It's funny (no pun intended) you say that, because I guarantee Conan is a Letterman fan, or at least he was before he got into the business of competing with him.
 

SKORPI0

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Originally posted by: her209
Paris Hilton was on last night. Damn!

:Q

Yes, watched & recorded it in HD. She was in and out 1 minute, sat on Conans table.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: SKORPI0
Originally posted by: her209
Paris Hilton was on last night. Damn!

:Q
Yes, watched & recorded it in HD. She was in and out 1 minute, sat on Conans table.
She almost tripped herself out of her dress.

:laugh:
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
That's because people who watched the "Tonight Show" don't like things that are funny. If they did, they wouldn't have watched the "Tonight Show." Conan is actually funny, so obviously they are losing their core audience in droves. Luckily, America can always count on Letterman to not be funny.

Leno's actually a stand up comedian who sells out shows on a regular basis when he's not doing the Tonight Show. Conan is not a stand up comedian, so I would have to say people who like Conan are the ones who find shit that's not really that funny, funny. If Conan is so good at comedy, why can't I go to Vegas and see a him do a show? Letterman doesn't do stand up, because he knows he's not funny enough. Also, Leno was funny enough in Carson's eyes to get Tonight Show gig after he retired. And he's just as good now as he was back then. So I hate to burst your bubble, but when it comes to knowing what's funny I'd say Carson knows just a bit fucking more than you do.
 

AnonymouseUser

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: SKORPI0
Originally posted by: her209
Paris Hilton was on last night. Damn!

:Q
Yes, watched & recorded it in HD. She was in and out 1 minute, sat on Conans table.
She almost tripped herself out of her dress.

:laugh:

That was painful to watch. I actually felt embarrassed for Conan.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: SKORPI0
Originally posted by: her209
Paris Hilton was on last night. Damn!

:Q
Yes, watched & recorded it in HD. She was in and out 1 minute, sat on Conans table.
She almost tripped herself out of her dress.

:laugh:
That was painful to watch. I actually felt embarrassed for Conan.
Yeah, for sure. I honestly thought and hoped he was going to have Bob Saget come out to do the bit.
 

rocadelpunk

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Originally posted by: Citrix
i have watched a few episodes before conan went to the tonight show and i didnt care for him. i have watched a few episodes with him on the tonight show and i still don't care for him. the one thing that annoys the hell out of me is his stupid band especially the obnoxious trumpet player who has to blast out that damn high note 5 fucking times when Conan comes out on stage.

I didnt watch Leno that much but when i did i enjoyed it and wasn't annoyed by slap stick half wit sophomoric comedy.

yeah you know you're an old fart when you complain about 5 notes from a trumpet out of an hour show.

I hope if you presented that argument to your co-workers/friends they'd laugh in your face : P

Opening monologue was hilarious last night. Loved the "parliament clap and old man clap"

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Originally posted by: QueBert


Leno's actually a stand up comedian who sells out shows on a regular basis when he's not doing the Tonight Show. Conan is not a stand up comedian, so I would have to say people who like Conan are the ones who find shit that's not really that funny, funny. If Conan is so good at comedy, why can't I go to Vegas and see a him do a show? Letterman doesn't do stand up, because he knows he's not funny enough. Also, Leno was funny enough in Carson's eyes to get Tonight Show gig after he retired. And he's just as good now as he was back then. So I hate to burst your bubble, but when it comes to knowing what's funny I'd say Carson knows just a bit fucking more than you do.

This is some bizarre analysis - you obviously know nothing about the politics that led to Leno getting the Tonight Show. Carson loved Letterman and hated Leno.

I agree with you that Leno is a great standup, but he's a total bore as a talk show host (ironically, his best TV appearances were as a guest on the Letterman show in the '80s). I don't think being a great standup is critical to being a great talk show host - Carson never did standup at all, for example.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: QueBert


Leno's actually a stand up comedian who sells out shows on a regular basis when he's not doing the Tonight Show. Conan is not a stand up comedian, so I would have to say people who like Conan are the ones who find shit that's not really that funny, funny. If Conan is so good at comedy, why can't I go to Vegas and see a him do a show? Letterman doesn't do stand up, because he knows he's not funny enough. Also, Leno was funny enough in Carson's eyes to get Tonight Show gig after he retired. And he's just as good now as he was back then. So I hate to burst your bubble, but when it comes to knowing what's funny I'd say Carson knows just a bit fucking more than you do.

This is some bizarre analysis - you obviously know nothing about the politics that led to Leno getting the Tonight Show. Carson loved Letterman and hated Leno.

I agree with you that Leno is a great standup, but he's a total bore as a talk show host (ironically, his best TV appearances were as a guest on the Letterman show in the '80s). I don't think being a great standup is critical to being a great talk show host - Carson never did standup at all, for example.

Leno was Carsons #1 choice to fill in for him when he was out. Carson hand picked Leno to replace him. I don't believe NBA had their hand in it. Letterman was established with his own show, and would have made more sense for a replacement in NBC's eyes. And after Carson left, him and Jay stayed friends, Carson even had Jay over to his poker games. I've never read anywhere about Carson hating Leno. Yeah he liked Letterman but I think he did pick Leno himself, without input from NBC.

I know Carson never did stand up, but he could have because he was just that funny. Conan, no way in hell he could pull of a stand up concert. Same with Letterman. Conan doing a stand up special would be about as painful to watch as Carson Daily doing a stand up special.
 
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