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Cogman

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Sep 19, 2000
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I knew a guy that drove with one of these hung in the back of his truck (as well he gave himself the nickname of "general" isgust. Why did he do it? Because he thought it made him look tough and manly. He did a lot of stupid stuff like that (like chewing on tacks) just to make himself look strong in front of people.

For me, the flag represents an attention whore. Just someone that wants to get a reaction from people because they know it could be viewed as raciest or even edgy.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: her209
It definitely was about slavery for some states

http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html

I'm amazed that so many people fall for the states rights revisionist history excuse. Yeah, it was about states' rights; primarily the right to own slaves.

Davis tried to flee to Texas to start a guerrilla war in order to force the north to allow slavery to continue. Johnston even negotiated the retention of slavery with Sherman when he surrendered the Army of Tennessee (2 weeks after Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia), but Sherman didn't have the authority to offer that.

All of the major political issues leading up to the war revolved around slavery. The main result of the war (aside from the reunification of the states) was the abolition of slavery. States' rights? Come on.
 

Hyperion042

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Actually, the main result of the war was the near complete demolition of all infrastructure in the South, the razing of every major southern city, the wholescale death of a whole ton of southerners and the near complete annihilation of the economy and political rights of most southern states for about a century to come.
The right to slaveholding was indeed a major factor of the civil war, but equally important were the underlying economic reasons why the South wanted to keep slaves. Under increasingly dangerous tarriff regulation in Washington which favored the importation of foreign Cotton, southern crops were selling for considerably less than they should have been were Southern interests fairly represented at the Federal level. Coupling this with the expense of migrating off of a slave-based production system, is it really that surprising that the South chose to exercise an (arguably) Consitutional right to secession in the attempt of preventing the total economic collapse that followed reunification and forcible breakup of slavery?
Slaves or no, the confederate flag reminds me of a very serious failure of diplomacy on a national scale, leading to what was essentially an avoidable war with catastrophic results for some half of the nation's populace. Yes, only rednecks and white trash fly it, but I personally view it as a reminder of the notable omissions of most peoples' history educations in this nation.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Cogman
I knew a guy that drove with one of these hung in the back of his truck (as well he gave himself the nickname of "general" isgust. Why did he do it? Because he thought it made him look tough and manly. He did a lot of stupid stuff like that (like chewing on tacks) just to make himself look strong in front of people.

For me, the flag represents an attention whore. Just someone that wants to get a reaction from people because they know it could be viewed as raciest or even edgy.
Maybe he had it because he got a kick out of annoying people like you. I know it's cruel but the world is full of cruel people.

 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: jandrews
I always considered southern pride and racism kind of mutually...

Why? You think most southerners are proud of slavery?

I love how everyone rags on the South as being largely racist, implying that the rest of the US is a bastion of enlightenment where every ethnic group and racial group live in complete harmony. Give me a fvcking break. You want to know the real reason the south gets the bad rap on the whole?

http://content.answers.com/mai...2000_black_density.png

In the south, racism isn't hidden like it is in much of the US. Folks generally don't have the "luxury" (put in quotes for a reason) of living in a county or state that is 90% white, like the rest of the US. Racism can be, and is, equally has bad or worse in much of the the US, there just aren't the concentrations of black people around to be racist towards.

Sorry for outlawing slavery so soon.
 

Linflas

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Jan 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: jandrews
I always considered southern pride and racism kind of mutually...

Why? You think most southerners are proud of slavery?

I love how everyone rags on the South as being largely racist, implying that the rest of the US is a bastion of enlightenment where every ethnic group and racial group live in complete harmony. Give me a fvcking break. You want to know the real reason the south gets the bad rap on the whole?

http://content.answers.com/mai...2000_black_density.png

In the south, racism isn't hidden like it is in much of the US. Folks generally don't have the "luxury" (put in quotes for a reason) of living in a county or state that is 90% white, like the rest of the US. Racism can be, and is, equally has bad or worse in much of the the US, there just aren't the concentrations of black people around to be racist towards.

Sorry for outlawing slavery so soon.

Was there an actual thought behind that or did you just feel an irrepressible urge to post and just spewed something nonsensical in response to a reasoned post? Excelsior was right on target with his post.
 
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