Configure Me A Computer ;p

LandDweller

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i want to spend 3,000

on a great lcd

TOP of the line athlon fx

4 gb ram great vid card, greaat cooling, etc

what can u guys come up with.

this is for a digital audio workstation (thus the eed for allthat ram)
 

Nebor

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Get a professional to build it for you, you're not skilled enough. If you were building such a computer, why would you come here to ask? Why not go to someone who specializes in digital audio workstations?
 

Duvie

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I agree or try to go to a forum site more involved in the software and the process that is going to be done....

A professional may suggest a different brand of cpu if the software is beter suited or optimized for it....Are you flexible there or just helbent on the AMD??? I am just asking as I don't know if the p4 is better suited for it and the software....Just need to be open-minded....

You could just get the jist of some of the hardware (sound cards, mixers, etc.) that may need and we here can likely help you, but if you are totally green it may be better to have a more experienced person asseble it...
 

Nebor

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A digital audio workstation? No one here knows enough about that stuff to help you. I wouldn't even know what sound card you'd want.

Maybe an EMU? Hell, I don't know. Will you be mixing stereo sound, or more?
 

Wahsapa

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also, being digital audio, you shouldnt spend ANY money on a 'top of the line lcd' because that could be half your money already gone, if its audio you dont need to look at anything, you should buy a really nice speaker setup with the lcd money and find a decent crt.

what are you going to be working with, why the need for a digital audio workstation...
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Wahsapa
also, being digital audio, you shouldnt spend ANY money on a 'top of the line lcd' because that could be half your money already gone, if its audio you dont need to look at anything, you should buy a really nice speaker setup with the lcd money and find a decent crt.

what are you going to be working with, why the need for a digital audio workstation...

Why shouldn't he get a screen that's nice to look at? He will have to use it, and since.... You know what, I'm not getting involved in this ridiculous thread. It's obvious that the OP is some sort of combination troll\liar, so why bother?
 

NFactor

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You can get a very nice computer for 3,000. Unfortunatly 4 GB of Ram by itself costs around 2,000. The FX is at about 700 and a motherboard should be around 150. That 3,000 mark isn't quite enough for that kind of a system.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: LandDweller
this is for a digital audio workstation (thus the eed for allthat ram)

WTF kind of audio are you dealing with? We had systems that worked with audio at the radio station I worked at. I loaded 30 minute clips up, sometimes more. We had 256MB of memory and had no problems.

Are you really going to be working with 4GB audio samples? If so, you'd better put all of that money into a RAID 10 15K SCSI setup and dual/quad processors.

If you are really going to be woking on professional audio, you need a $30-$50 video card, not an FX5950 or an X800.
 

jpeyton

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I don't normally recommend Macs, but your sound like Apple's posterchild.

Get a G5 PowerMac, spend $1000 on one or two Samsung LCDs, and call it a day.

EDIT: Anyone else think this guy is just having fun giving hard-on's to a few poor geeks?
 

LandDweller

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no, no guys, your getting me all wrong here!

I just want a powerfull processing pc. and some good ram and mobo. iVE BUILT COMPUTERS BEFore, i just want to see some powerfull rigs. i got a studio already ;p
 

LandDweller

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
I don't normally recommend Macs, but your sound like Apple's posterchild.

Get a G5 PowerMac, spend $1000 on one or two Samsung LCDs, and call it a day.

EDIT: Anyone else think this guy is just having fun giving hard-on's to a few poor geeks?


lol, sorry to dissapoint you, but no. i produce trancemusic, which usually requires 30 tracks of audio with Equalizers and other dsp native functions. so i need hefty processing power. and the mac is way too expensive...3000 for JUST the mac geh ;/
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: LandDweller
no, no guys, your getting me all wrong here!

I just want a powerfull processing pc. and some good ram and mobo. iVE BUILT COMPUTERS BEFore, i just want to see some powerfull rigs. i got a studio already ;p

I'm curious. What kind of audio do you work with? 4GB is overkill, and memory is terribly expensive.
 

Mik3y

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hey Landdweller, i'd like to be helpful unlike some of the others here, so here is my best compilation of what i think is right for you:

Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology $416

Thermaltake SilentTower 4 in 1 CPU Cooler for Intel P4 478 & Socket T, AMD K7 & K8, with Heatpipe Cooling, Model "CL-P0025" $49

ABIT "AI7" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU $108

OCZ Performance Series Dual Channel 184-Pin 2GB (1GBx2) DDR PC-3200 $540

SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9800 PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP $207

M-AUDIO PCI Sound Card w/ Mic Preamps, S/PDIF and MIDI, Model "Delta 1010LT" $276

ANTEC Life Style Series Black Case with 380W Power Supply, Model "SONATA" $95

Logitech Z-5300 5.1 THX Certified Speaker System $139

Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB/ PS/2 104keys $75

NEC 8X Black DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model ND-2500A $75

Black Mitsumi USB Digital Card Reader/Writers w/ Floppy Drive $35

DELL UltraSharp 2001FP 20.1-inch Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand $850

Total: $2865 w/o tax or shipping (prices are from newegg.com)

i went for the p4 because its just more logical to take advantage of its hyperthreading for media work and i dont know why you would need a gaming cpu, such as the fx, for audio. the 3.4C is plenty fast. as for ram, i KNOW you will not even use up 2gb as of yet. when the time comes, just get another 2gb if you really need it. for video card, its powerful, but not the best. as for the sound card, its the highest quality one i can find and it also includes more features then any typical card. the speakers are 5.1 and are excellant, and the monitor is very hgih quality and large. in other words, i dont see how you could want a computer any stronger then this. and for the case, i chose the sonata because it is VERY quiet, which is what you'd need for all the audio work you claim to do. hopefully, this'll help you out. btw, for what you origionally asked for, you'd need about $5000 to get that.
 

LandDweller

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: LandDweller
no, no guys, your getting me all wrong here!

I just want a powerfull processing pc. and some good ram and mobo. iVE BUILT COMPUTERS BEFore, i just want to see some powerfull rigs. i got a studio already ;p

I'm curious. What kind of audio do you work with? 4GB is overkill, and memory is terribly expensive.

sequencers. electronic music.

heres how a few tracks look.

track 1 :bassdrum (compression plugin, eq, vintage warmer)

track 2:hi hat
trck 3:congas

etc...i add cpu effects to all these ant it needs massive memory to make 7 minute tracks in a sequencer andto have all waveform data shown of all the tracks without slowdown
 

LandDweller

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
hey Landdweller, i'd like to be helpful unlike some of the others here, so here is my best compilation of what i think is right for you:

Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology $416

Thermaltake SilentTower 4 in 1 CPU Cooler for Intel P4 478 & Socket T, AMD K7 & K8, with Heatpipe Cooling, Model "CL-P0025" $49

ABIT "AI7" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU $108

OCZ Performance Series Dual Channel 184-Pin 2GB (1GBx2) DDR PC-3200 $540

SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9800 PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP $207

M-AUDIO PCI Sound Card w/ Mic Preamps, S/PDIF and MIDI, Model "Delta 1010LT" $276

ANTEC Life Style Series Black Case with 380W Power Supply, Model "SONATA" $95

Logitech Z-5300 5.1 THX Certified Speaker System $139

Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB/ PS/2 104keys $75

NEC 8X Black DVD+RW/-RW Drive, Model ND-2500A $75

Black Mitsumi USB Digital Card Reader/Writers w/ Floppy Drive $35

DELL UltraSharp 2001FP 20.1-inch Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand $850

Total: $2865 w/o tax or shipping (prices are from newegg.com)

i went for the p4 because its just more logical to take advantage of its hyperthreading for media work and i dont know why you would need a gaming cpu, such as the fx, for audio. the 3.4C is plenty fast. as for ram, i KNOW you will not even use up 2gb as of yet. when the time comes, just get another 2gb if you really need it. for video card, its powerful, but not the best. as for the sound card, its the highest quality one i can find and it also includes more features then any typical card. the speakers are 5.1 and are excellant, and the monitor is very hgih quality and large. in other words, i dont see how you could want a computer any stronger then this. and for the case, i chose the sonata because it is VERY quiet, which is what you'd need for all the audio work you claim to do. hopefully, this'll help you out. btw, for what you origionally asked for, you'd need about $5000 to get that.


this is all good man, and i appreciate the wise wording. but read what the athlon has doneto the g5.

http://duc.digidesign.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=360675&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

'The new AMD processors have achieved over 100% better performance than Mac G4 and PIII systems and 50% better than Mac G5 systems. With rock solid stability, they easily push past the 32 track/160 effects limit. These are all top quality components proven to work with Digi001, MBox, 002, and 002R. "

its just that the amds get more audio horsepower than the intels for some reason
 

Chaotic42

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Here's what I'd get, based on what I know about your needs. Is your software SMP capable?

Motherboard: Iwill DK8X
CPU: 2xOpteron 246
Memory: 2x1GB
SCSI: LSI20320-R
Drives: 2x Seagate 37GB 15K in RAID0, 2xWestern Digital 250GB IDE for backups and data storage
Video: Matrox P650
Monitors: 2x Samsung 170N 17" LCD
Sound: However many Digital Audio CardDeluxes you need

Everything else is just a decision of style and specific needs. Just my $.02.
 

LandDweller

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Here's what I'd get, based on what I know about your needs. Is your software SMP capable?

Motherboard: Iwill DK8X
CPU: 2xOpteron 246
Memory: 2x1GB
SCSI: LSI20320-R
Drives: 2x Seagate 37GB 15K in RAID0, 2xWestern Digital 250GB IDE for backups and data storage
Video: Matrox P650
Monitors: 2x Samsung 170N 17" LCD
Sound: However many Digital Audio CardDeluxes you need

Everything else is just a decision of style and specific needs. Just my $.02.

awesome template dood! im curious though, how fast is a opteron in comparison to say a fx-53?
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: LandDweller
awesome template dood! im curious though, how fast is a opteron in comparison to say a fx-53?
Honestly, I don't know.

I've put about 1 second of thought into the FX series. I can't see myself buying one.

Now that audio card is the best at what it does. If it fits your needs, you'll be hard pressed to get a better one. A trade mag put it up against about 7 other cards and it blew them out of the water and was a couple hundred less than the next cheapest card.

I've used two of them at the station we worked at (I was in charge of the systems), and they are great. Very low noise and trouble free.
 

LandDweller

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: LandDweller
awesome template dood! im curious though, how fast is a opteron in comparison to say a fx-53?
Honestly, I don't know.

I've put about 1 second of thought into the FX series. I can't see myself buying one.

Now that audio card is the best at what it does. If it fits your needs, you'll be hard pressed to get a better one. A trade mag put it up against about 7 other cards and it blew them out of the water and was a couple hundred less than the next cheapest card.

I've used two of them at the station we worked at (I was in charge of the systems), and they are great. Very low noise and trouble free.

ive already got a motu 828MkII which is a 750 dollar external audio suite. so i wont be needing that, I still dont know aabout the dual opterons maybe someone can lend some insight on the fx-53 comapred tothe dual opteron 246s?
 

Mik3y

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an opteron x48 class is equivalent to an fx-51, and x50 is equivalent to fx-53
 
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