Confirmed by AMD & Intel - Rivals Intel and AMD Team Up on PC Chips to Battle NVidia

[FIVR]

omg https://www.pcworld.com/article/323...md-ship-a-core-chip-with-radeon-graphics.html

I will wait for an announcement by AMD (or at least a named AMD spokesperson) but this looks very very bad. I'm writing 12.50 calls on all my shares as I type this. This is not good news for AMD.


Great news for intel though.

 

[formulav8]

omg https://www.pcworld.com/article/323...md-ship-a-core-chip-with-radeon-graphics.html

Thanks for the link.

 

[CatMerc]

https://newsroom.intel.com/editoria...cpu-discrete-graphics-sleek-thin-devices/amp/

It's real

 

[LTC8K6]

I think it's hilarious. All this CPU rivalry and AMD just up and sells graphics chips to Intel.

 

[Qwertilot]

They presumably would have done this themselves, but no R&D money. So it makes a reasonable amount of sense.

The gaming notebook market is about 99% NV right now of course, so combining to try and put any sort of dent in the monopoly has its attractions.

 

[LTC8K6]

Who'd have thought it would be Intel with HBM2 so soon?

 

[formulav8]

I think it's hilarious. All this CPU rivalry and AMD just up and sells graphics chips to Intel.

Why funny? It definitely won't hurt RR IGP sales. It is going to be much higher performing than that. Discreet level performance.

 

[Charlie22911]

Sorry, I don't see how this is bad. AMD is able to gain some market share in the mobile space presumably with less R&D while taking advantage of the better brand recognition Intel carries.
Yes, we as enthusiasts have a more informed picture of how things compete and perform; the average Joe doesn't.

I see this as a net positive, but I'm open to sensible theories as to why it may not be.

 

[Ancalagon44]

Who'd have thought it would be Intel with HBM2 so soon?

I was just thinking that. All of us were hoping for an AMD APU with HBM2 and here Intel delivers something that is pretty close.

 

[pj-]

The first page of this thread is pretty funny now that it's officially official. I bet the previous rumor threads are good for a chuckle now too

 

[NTMBK]

I have to put my hands up and admit I was wrong- I honestly never believed that this would happen.

I guess that the thing that Intel provides that AMD can't otherwise get, is the EMIB. It makes it possible to use HBM2 in lower cost solutions, and reduces the Z-height.

 

[CatMerc]

I think it's hilarious. All this CPU rivalry and AMD just up and sells graphics chips to Intel.

When fighting a common enemy....

 

[LTC8K6]

Why funny? It definitely won't hurt RR IGP sales. It is going to be much higher performing than that. Discreet level performance.

We'll see.
1Q18 is not far off.

I find it funny given all the wacky CPU rivalry talk we see here.

 

[Jan Olšan]

The first page of this thread is pretty funny now that it's officially official. I bet the previous rumor threads are good for a chuckle now too

Indeed. Also, I so told you

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/intel-chips-with-“vega-inside”-coming-soon.2521676/page-2#post-39114401

Don't count Kaby Lake-G out just based on that though.

 

[LTC8K6]

When fighting a common enemy....

It'll probably be too expensive and Nvidia will not have much to worry about.

 

[CatMerc]

It'll probably be too expensive and Nvidia will not have much to worry about.

It fills a form factor + performance section that NVIDIA can't possibly compete in.

 

[Glo.]

You see only end result, but there is a lot of background story from this. Its worth paying attention to what will happen in upcoming weeks.

Now, i just want to see performance of this chip, and if it will be available for consumer market. Maybe I will consider this as an option for mITX build.

 

[moinmoin]

So is this one of AMD's semi-custom solution design wins? The interesting part of those is that it essentially allows AMD to let outside parties finance parts of their R&D. In this case Intel. Also I'd consider this a boost for the much maligned Radeon Group within AMD, while the iGPU-less Ryzen are not affected at all. Ryzen Mobile/Raven Ridge is the most directly affected AMD chip, but it seems this Intel/AMD package run on a wholey different power level, more as a DTR than focused on mobility.

 

[Despoiler]

I don't know what to think about the ramifications of this. I think the only way this makes sense is if AMD took this semi-custom deal far enough back in the past where it needed money from anyone it could get it from. It was money to stay afloat just like all of the other semi-custom deals. It just so happens to be with a competitor in other segments. A deal with the devil so to speak. Or it could simply be that AMD semi-custom has the permission to whatever it likes to bring in money for AMD.

There is some good to come out of this. It means a) Intel completely admitted it's nowhere close to having graphics technology that can rival AMD or Nvidia. This bodes well for Raven Ridge and beyond b) It's not Nvidia getting revenue from this deal. c) This will help add "legitimacy" to the Radeon brand. It will change some consumer's minds who would otherwise only consider Nvidia. d) It is a new mobile segment so being part of that is better than not. By definition it can't affect current segments. There is also nothing stopping AMD from developing a similar product. The benefit is they can let Intel risk their own money to see if the segment is worth pursuing.

 

[formulav8]

Double post

 

[formulav8]

It'll probably be too expensive and Nvidia will not have much to worry about.

In as thin and light of a laptop as the Intel/AMD chip will be? Not sure nvidia can do that. So there could be something for them to worry about.

 

[ksec]

46 Comment into it and no mention of Apple.

I think this is Apple wanted Intel CPU and AMD's GPU on Laptop.

 

[tamz_msc]

What prevents NVIDIA from asking the same treatment from Intel in the future?

 

[NTMBK]

What prevents NVIDIA from asking the same treatment from Intel in the future?

Apple falling out with NVidia and kicking them out of every product they make? The enormous lawsuits between Intel and NVidia?

 

[Despoiler]

46 Comment into it and no mention of Apple.

I think this is Apple wanted Intel CPU and AMD's GPU on Laptop.

Plausible, but Apple would be making the announcement and not Intel if that were the case. That being said, I think it's reasonable that Apple will have a product or products based on this given their design goals.