I want to pay by the byte and have crap voip quality.
I'm IT, I work with servers and workstations. I've created a "website" before, I mean it was nothing fancy, my father creates websites too. He buys a domain uses their service to create the website which then is probably just doing the same thing i did which it's creating files on their servers which assigned to that special name. Which mine I created a file write some stuff in it make it a certain type of file and then put it in a special folder. Okay, so now you knowing what i know (sort of) Comcast isn't downloading anything, they are basically like a firewall allowing stuff in and out through their system and that is where they would be able to control what you can see by blocking certain ports and programs for what ever IP's they want and that is where the bill comes in to stop them from charging you to unblock that stuff for you.
I dont trust some government types to write a bill about net neutrality. They dont know anything so they will have to ask someone else to write it. Then big companies will be writing the legislation that is suppose to govern themselves.
I have often wondered why my ISP is not blocking some of the stupid virus attacks. Seems like that would be their job to protect me the person that is paying for the service.
I'm IT, I work with servers and workstations. I've created a "website" before, I mean it was nothing fancy, my father creates websites too. He buys a domain uses their service to create the website which then is probably just doing the same thing i did which it's creating files on their servers which assigned to that special name. Which mine I created a file write some stuff in it make it a certain type of file and then put it in a special folder. Okay, so now you knowing what i know (sort of) Comcast isn't downloading anything, they are basically like a firewall allowing stuff in and out through their system and that is where they would be able to control what you can see by blocking certain ports and programs for what ever IP's they want and that is where the bill comes in to stop them from charging you to unblock that stuff for you.
Personally and from what I've read without net neutrality our cable providers will start sectioning off what we can, and cannot access.
We want the internet to be free for the flow of information.
The talk about quality of service, really? Think that has anything to do with it? No, it's control, all about control. IMO If you want to prioritize stuff like VOIP (which I don't believe has that much overhead), it shouldn't be an issue or be tough to QoS on the back end.
Case in point - I have a voip service at home. I can make/receive calls while the internet is used no problem.
Personally and from what I've read without net neutrality our cable providers will start sectioning off what we can, and cannot access.
We want the internet to be free for the flow of information.
The talk about quality of service, really? Think that has anything to do with it? No, it's control, all about control. IMO If you want to prioritize stuff like VOIP (which I don't believe has that much overhead), it shouldn't be an issue or be tough to QoS on the back end.
Case in point - I have a voip service at home. I can make/receive calls while the internet is used no problem.
Try making a VoIP call when your network is completely saturated. Doesn't sound so good.
That's why much of the information on the web about it is completely wrong. What you are describing would be stopped immediately by the FCC. You've bought into the fear mongering by a bunch of nerds that don't know how the internet works.
Fine. You allow QoS for VOIP, but once that door is opened when will it close? Could a regulation be passed for strictly that? What else would you like regulated in terms of bandwidth?
The last thing I want as a user is for my netflix streaming, web-page loading, online video game, whatever, to start chugging because some jackass down the road is running some app that takes priority over mine.
Net Neutrality, as it currently is being promoted, would make it so that your ISP has to let your neighbor down the road hog all of the bandwidth with P2P/Torrent sharing so that your games and movie streams could very well be interrupted. WITHOUT Net Neutrality, the ISP has the option to push that bandwidth hogging traffic down in priority so that other applications and users that rely on latency (VOIP/streaming media/games/etc.) can have access to the system without being negatively impacted.
Net Neutrality, as it currently is being promoted, would make it so that your ISP has to let your neighbor down the road hog all of the bandwidth with P2P/Torrent sharing so that your games and movie streams could very well be interrupted. WITHOUT Net Neutrality, the ISP has the option to push that bandwidth hogging traffic down in priority so that other applications and users that rely on latency (VOIP/streaming media/games/etc.) can have access to the system without being negatively impacted.
Why is then, that I've never had an issue with my service? In the many different locations I've lived? I online game, youtube, music, torrent, everything. Why has it not been affected?
The ideals of QoS are all well and good, the problem is putting in the hands of these corporations. I almost want it to happen so we can all bear witness.
Also. Say I'm downloading a linux torrent. They're what at least a few gigs now right? So just use a blank object that's 5gbs. Over p2p torrent if that's set to a lower priority how low is it? How long would it take to download compared to the setup before? You don't know, you can't tell me.
I don't want my torrent taking 3 days because you want perfect voip. Shit even cell phones aren't perfect. Use analog then.
Why is then, that I've never had an issue with my service? In the many different locations I've lived? I online game, youtube, music, torrent, everything. Why has it not been affected?
The ideals of QoS are all well and good, the problem is putting in the hands of these corporations. I almost want it to happen so we can all bear witness.
Also. Say I'm downloading a linux torrent. They're what at least a few gigs now right? So just use a blank object that's 5gbs. Over p2p torrent if that's set to a lower priority how low is it? How long would it take to download compared to the setup before? You don't know, you can't tell me.
I don't want my torrent taking 3 days because you want perfect voip. Shit even cell phones aren't perfect. Use analog then.
That's not how QoS works. You're talking about priority queuing which is hardly ever used (well, except for voice, a low bandwidth application but can't stand latency/jitter/drops). QoS is more about setting drop precedence and evenly ordering the packets so different applications can perform at their peak. Different applications have different ideal delivery conditions. QoS allows a multiservice network to be truly multiservice giving top performance to all applications.
Why has your stuff not been affected yet? Because they use a form of QoS. Take that away and see what happens. Then your neighbor and his torrent really are going to interfere with all your applications.
But for some unknown reason people keep trying to support this assinine net neutrality idea. It's stupid, it harms the internet and all customers.
QOS, traffic shaping, and bandwidth management ARE currently all "in the hands of these corporations" which is a big part of the reason why you've never had an issue with your service. If the Net Neutrality legislation were to pass, there would no longer be ANY traffic management and you would then start to see many of the issues that you are claiming would happen without Net Neutrality. The funny thing is that the doomsayers who say we need Net Neutrality claim that horrible things will happen if ISPs are allowed to give priority (or lower the priority) to certain traffic when the fact is that they already do it and the flow of traffic on the Internet is BETTER because of it.
As an analogy, think of the streets in your city. If there were no traffic lights, lanes, or laws directing the movement of vehicles on the roads, what would happen? It's not an exact comparison of course, since a lost or out of place packet on the Internet can't kill you, but both have the same end result: a significant negative impact on the flow of traffic through the system.