Congrats to Ken_g6!

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We were having a little mini race to 100 and he just squeeked ahead of me to win! My daughter got a new Blue's Clues game that she has been playing all day and my wife turned it off yesterday and that was all the edge Ken needed to grab the title.

I guess I'll just have to race him to 200 now.

Congrats again!

Michael
 

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Thanks! That, and my Cyrix did the two WUs I beat you by. Whew, that was close! I don't think I can keep up with you to 200WUs, though.
 

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Congrats Ken

You gotta give it a go to 200

Michael

Hehe ,best you buy a 2nd PC for your daughter to play on
 

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Part of a discussion I was having with Ken_g6:

I'm running at 66 Mhz on both machines. The W98 machine has SETI running all the time (not screen saver) and my linux machine (two C400's on a BP6) has two instances of SETI running.

The C433 (W98) does a WU in about 12 hours. The linux box does 2 every 19 hours (one every 9 1/2 hours).

Both have budget PC100 memory, I haven't tried to use CAS2 setting, and the lack of a FSB of 100 must be slowing them down as I don't want to overclock. My daughter's machine is running a dirt cheap ZX motherboard (Jetway brand). I got a CL SB Live for dirt cheap, but I think that the default sodtware does steal some cycles.

My BP6 board does have an old bios. The machine has a LS-120 drive, I wonder if I can boot a floppy from it and flash the bios to RU. I've read that RU gives you about 5% faster scores.

I'm not sure if my scores are way low, I'll post this on the main forum and ask.

Michael
 

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If your RAM is PC100 RAM running at 66MHz it should have no problem running at CAS2
 

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Well, I was afraid of this. It looks like your Linux box has a cache conflict. I'm not sure if both celerons share the same cache, or if both caches share the same memory, but somehow each SETI instance has to wait a little for the other.

I don't know what to tell you; if you want to do this much SETI, that is your optimal configuration. It's sure not a good configuration for SETI, though. Running one SETI instance and one RC5 instance would be more efficient, but not for SETI.

In any case, you're still too fast for me. Assimilator1, I'd rather charge a Swahili rhino . . . A.K.A. a KiFaRu!
 

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I don't think that it is a cache conflict, I think that it is sharing the 66 Mhz memory bus that makes them slower. If I run just one instance, I get a unit every 12-13 hours. If I run 2, then each unit takes 18-19 hours so one is taking 9-9 1/2 hours.

I usually have Gnome running and I also fool around in C on my Linux box. All of this takes memory and slows things down some.

According to http://pages.tca.net/roelof/setispy/default.htm#Tips, I should be taking about 9.2 hrs on the C433 (= 555(7.2/433)) and 10 hrs/unit on the C400 (555(7.2/400). The 12 hours seems a little higher than it should be, I am running the client all the time in the system tray. My daughter does use the computer for at least an hour every day.

My BP6 box is running way too hot (if lm_sensors can be trusted). I need to tear it down and take a look at the cooling. My CPU reading are in the low 60's C all the time unless I have the case open and a floor fan pointed at it. Some of the problem is the case design, the CPUs are across from the power supply so there's lots of hot air around the CPU.. I bought a new case fan, it should be arriving tommorrow. I also bought a slot fan to pump out heat from my Velocity 100 video card (it really doesn't run all that hot so that shouldn't make much of a difference).

I'm going to look at the fans and use thermal grease to get better contact. My room does get pretty hot at times (upstairs with 4-5 computers running all the time). I'm guessing the room is about 25 C and it must shoot up to 30 C - 32 C a lot. Since my airconditioning sensor is downstairs, it has to be fairly hot before the house AC kicks on.

I may have access to 6 - 10 P75's and P90's (work is dumping them). I may build a little Linux cluster with them just to see how that works. They'll only do a work unit every 50 hours or so, but 5 of them will do 2 work units a day. I'll have to clear room in my garage for them.

I'll have to bump the CAS setting to 2 for my memory on my SETI machines and see how that goes.

Michael
 

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Micheal

>>>I think that it is sharing the 66 Mhz memory bus that makes them slower<<<

Spot on!

What program are using to measure cpu temps?
How does your board measure cpu temps?
Is your PSU fan blowing outwards? if not reverse it.

If those P75's-90 have less than 32Mb RAM then SETI won't run .....at least thats the case with Windows ,not sure about Linux but it's worth finding out.
BTW those P90's will stand a good chance of running at 100MHz
 

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I'm using lm_sensors, sometimes called sensors. It is the general Linux program that reads the motherboard monitoring chips.

I'm suspicious of the temp readings, but they'r enot far off what the biois says and they do drop 10ish degrees when I have the floor fan pointed at the open case.

My new case fan and new slot fan should arrive today. I really need to take the MB tray out and look at the fans and heatsinks. One C400 is a retail one with an Intel fan, the other is OEM with a cheap aftermarket heat sink. I am really, really surprised at the high temps, I am not overclocking.

Michael
 
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