Congressman Foley resigned

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Your right, they all say resign now. How fair is it that a guy with legal rroubles can just jump ship and get replaced with a few weeks left? It should be like Delay, stay on and pay for your crime with a big loss.

Yea like the way Torricelli remained on the ballot in New Jersey after poll started showing that he was going to lose (oh wait he didn't say on the ballot even though the law said it was past the date to change the ballot... oops)
or
how Jim McGreevy announced in August of 2004 that he was going to resign as governor due his various scandals, but decided that he would stay in office until November 15 2004... why the delay? Because if he left office before September 3 there would have been a special election, can't have that happen can we, never know when a Republican might sneak in and take over for the corrupt Jersey Democrats.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Todd33
Your right, they all say resign now. How fair is it that a guy with legal rroubles can just jump ship and get replaced with a few weeks left? It should be like Delay, stay on and pay for your crime with a big loss.

Yea like the way Torricelli remained on the ballot in New Jersey after poll started showing that he was going to lose (oh wait he didn't say on the ballot even though the law said it was past the date to change the ballot... oops)
or
how Jim McGreevy announced in August of 2004 that he was going to resign as governor due his various scandals, but decided that he would stay in office until November 15 2004... why the delay? Because if he left office before September 3 there would have been a special election, can't have that happen can we, never know when a Republican might sneak in and take over for the corrupt Jersey Democrats.

NJ apparently allowed for this change as the courts decided. Florida law is apparently different than NJ law and is different from Texas law and is different from Ohio law (where Ney resigned and was replaced). States decide how they want to deal with their elections. Don't like that ... change the law in that state.

 

[ProfJohn]

Anyone notice a trend here? when a Republican gets in trouble he resigns, but when a Democrat gets in trouble he fights and fights.

Examples Republican: Foley resigns, Delay resigns, Newt left due to disappointing election results, Bob Livingston resigns after allegations he had an affair, but broke NO laws nor lied about it under oath.

Democrats: William Jefferson caught with $100,000 in the freezer running for re-election, McGreevy of New Jersey gets in all kinds of trouble, resigns, but waits 3 months after his announcement before actually leaving in order to prevent a special election, Jim Traficant of Ohio had to be expelled, Torricelli withdraws his name from ballot when it appears he is going to lose the election (guess that is an almost resigns) and of course Bill Clinton who we all know about, lied, perjury, sex with an intern but still viewed as a hero to the left.

Of course this is a generalization, I am sure some of you will find some Republicans who didn?t resign and post their names for us all to see.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Todd33
How come the party of Homophobes is full of closet gays and pedophiles?

They said he would not run for re-election, he did not resign - this was MSNBC abuout 45 minutes ago.

Yah, I mean it's not like he was banging an intern and lied about it or anything and refused to resign. What really matters is that he belongs to a party that says you should have morals. It's perfectly OK to not have morals, just don't belong to the party that ascribes to them. Plenty of room for partisans, bigots and pedophiles in the democrat party, troll.

Edit: and for the record, sounds like a good riddance, there's no room for pedophiles in politics or anywhere, closeted or not. I personally don't care about the politics of it, but if it gives you a chubby, cest la vie.

Not really a valid comparisson unless a bunch of Dems come out against blow jobs, preach to the American public about values/morals etc, then get caught on the head-end of one. Personally, I am a huge supporter of getting bjs. My wife on the other hand leads the opposition

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Anyone notice a trend here? when a Republican gets in trouble he resigns, but when a Democrat gets in trouble he fights and fights.

Examples Republican: Foley resigns, Delay resigns, Newt left due to disappointing election results, Bob Livingston resigns after allegations he had an affair, but broke NO laws nor lied about it under oath.

Democrats: William Jefferson caught with $100,000 in the freezer running for re-election, McGreevy of New Jersey gets in all kinds of trouble, resigns, but waits 3 months after his announcement before actually leaving in order to prevent a special election, Jim Traficant of Ohio had to be expelled, Torricelli withdraws his name from ballot when it appears he is going to lose the election (guess that is an almost resigns) and of course Bill Clinton who we all know about, lied, perjury, sex with an intern but still viewed as a hero to the left.

Of course this is a generalization, I am sure some of you will find some Republicans who didn?t resign and post their names for us all to see.

Republicans Cut and Run
Democrats go down swinging

That the trend you're noticing?

 

[iwearnosox]

Sounds like he's a member of the super adventure club.

 

[mylok]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Todd33
How come the party of Homophobes is full of closet gays and pedophiles?

They said he would not run for re-election, he did not resign - this was MSNBC abuout 45 minutes ago.

Yah, I mean it's not like he was banging an intern and lied about it or anything and refused to resign. What really matters is that he belongs to a party that says you should have morals. It's perfectly OK to not have morals, just don't belong to the party that ascribes to them. Plenty of room for partisans, bigots and pedophiles in the democrat party, troll.

Edit: and for the record, sounds like a good riddance, there's no room for pedophiles in politics or anywhere, closeted or not. I personally don't care about the politics of it, but if it gives you a chubby, cest la vie.

Not really a valid comparisson unless a bunch of Dems come out against blow jobs, preach to the American public about values/morals etc, then get caught on the head-end of one. Personally, I am a huge supporter of getting bjs. My wife on the other hand leads the opposition

i am sorry but i am positive my wife is the leader of that group

 

[fallensight]

The IMs that ABC just broadcast are very, very damning, and very well may lead to prison time.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Todd33
How come the party of Homophobes is full of closet gays and pedophiles?

They said he would not run for re-election, he did not resign - this was MSNBC abuout 45 minutes ago.

Yah, I mean it's not like he was banging an intern and lied about it or anything and refused to resign. What really matters is that he belongs to a party that says you should have morals. It's perfectly OK to not have morals, just don't belong to the party that ascribes to them. Plenty of room for partisans, bigots and pedophiles in the democrat party, troll.

Edit: and for the record, sounds like a good riddance, there's no room for pedophiles in politics or anywhere, closeted or not. I personally don't care about the politics of it, but if it gives you a chubby, cest la vie.

Hot tongued, but pretty much to the same point I would have made. :thumbsup:

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: mylok

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Not really a valid comparisson unless a bunch of Dems come out against blow jobs, preach to the American public about values/morals etc, then get caught on the head-end of one. Personally, I am a huge supporter of getting bjs. My wife on the other hand leads the opposition

i am sorry but i am positive my wife is the leader of that group

See, their numbers are growing. Damn it! :brokenheart: Could there be twoGrand Poobahs in that sect

 

[Craig234]

Sorry, John, your point is very bogus. Different situations - and the republicans have generally hung on as long as they can.

For example, how long after all kinds of things were clearly issues for DeLay was he still out there in office saying he'd run? It took everything from losing battles in court and others such as his attempt to change the house rules (put in by republicans when they were trying to make the democrats look bad) that indicted leaders had to leave positions.

How much pain did Nixon put the country through over a couple years, sacrificing all his aides to jail, with the House having voted for impeachment in committee and definitely going to impeach and convict before he resigned, always saying he was innocent.

Ronald Reagan refused to resign over Iran-Contra crimes, instead he pardoned the felons.

The current story - the guy had his spokespeople out saying how these were the worst sort of democrat partisan attacks and he'd done nothing wrong, until ABC showed him they had the sex IMs. Oops. He had little choice.

On the other hand, Clinton didn't resign - when faced with a highly partisan witch hunt, maintaining 68% public support the day the republicans impeached him for what they trumped up as 'high crimes and misdemeanors' in an abuse of the constitution, found not guilty by the Senate.

In the face of a long string of sorded beavior of lies and crimes by republicans, the best you can say is not to acknowledge the disproportionate number of republicans who are doing wrong, but merely to brag about the republicans resigning, and not even that with much accuracy.

 

[CaptnKirk]

For whatever reason Foley chose to remove himself from the upcoming election he apparently knows that his sins
will not hold up to scrutinety of the second or third wave of review - he's trying to get out to minimize the damage.

The GOP can replace him - but Foley will remain on the ballot and whatever candidate the GOP choses as the person
of their backing will have to be presented as a 'Write-In' candidate for the position.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Just read the full report over on ABC's website. The IM's he exchanged with the kid are the damning evidence here people. They would not show any of the more graphic/sexual IM's, but if they are as bad as they say then you can count on jail time for this sick SOB.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: Craig234
Sorry, John, your point is very bogus. Different situations - and the republicans have generally hung on as long as they can.

For example, how long after all kinds of things were clearly issues for DeLay was he still out there in office saying he'd run? It took everything from losing battles in court and others such as his attempt to change the house rules (put in by republicans when they were trying to make the democrats look bad) that indicted leaders had to leave positions.

How much pain did Nixon put the country through over a couple years, sacrificing all his aides to jail, with the House having voted for impeachment in committee and definitely going to impeach and convict before he resigned, always saying he was innocent.

Ronald Reagan refused to resign over Iran-Contra crimes, instead he pardoned the felons.

The current story - the guy had his spokespeople out saying how these were the worst sort of democrat partisan attacks and he'd done nothing wrong, until ABC showed him they had the sex IMs. Oops. He had little choice.

On the other hand, Clinton didn't resign - when faced with a highly partisan witch hunt, maintaining 68% public support the day the republicans impeached him for what they trumped up as 'high crimes and misdemeanors' in an abuse of the constitution, found not guilty by the Senate.

In the face of a long string of sorded beavior of lies and crimes by republicans, the best you can say is not to acknowledge the disproportionate number of republicans who are doing wrong, but merely to brag about the republicans resigning, and not even that with much accuracy.

Bob Ney (OH-18) pleaded guilty that he made false statements and conspired to commit fraud and violate federal lobbying laws and he hasn't resigned. Ohio Governor Bob Taft pleaded guilty for failing to report golf outing trips and he won't resign. Former Rep. Jay Kim pleaded guilty to accepting nearly $250,000 in illegal contributions, didn't resign and lost his primary back in the 90s. Kentucky Governor Ernie Fletcher got caught up in a patronage/employment practices scandal, pardoned everyone involved and escaped after striking a deal with the DA. He is still in office. Republicans and Democrats all want to stay in power for as long as they can until it becomes impossible to.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Just read the full report over on ABC's website. The IM's he exchanged with the kid are the damning evidence here people. They would not show any of the more graphic/sexual IM's, but if they are as bad as they say then you can count on jail time for this sick SOB.

Even the ones already posted will likely lead to a prosecution. This is a fairly serious federal crime.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Just read the full report over on ABC's website. The IM's he exchanged with the kid are the damning evidence here people. They would not show any of the more graphic/sexual IM's, but if they are as bad as they say then you can count on jail time for this sick SOB.

Even the ones already posted will likely lead to a prosecution. This is a fairly serious federal crime.

ironically, Foley may be prosecuted by the some of the same laws he helped enact as he was a very vocal proponent of these types of laws.

The SF Chronicle is reporting that the Republican House leadership were aware of the emails.
and didn't say anything

The page worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who said Friday that when he learned of the e-mail exchanges 10 to 11 months ago, he called the teen's parents. Alexander told the Ruston Daily Leader, "We also notified the House leadership that there might be a potential problem," a reference to the House's Republican leaders.

opps.

 

[Todd33]

The GOP covers up for their criminals? Whaaa? What's next, the Catholic Church is going to cover up for pedophile priest?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: mylok

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Not really a valid comparisson unless a bunch of Dems come out against blow jobs, preach to the American public about values/morals etc, then get caught on the head-end of one. Personally, I am a huge supporter of getting bjs. My wife on the other hand leads the opposition

i am sorry but i am positive my wife is the leader of that group

See, their numbers are growing. Damn it! :brokenheart: Could there be twoGrand Poobahs in that sect

What are the qualifications - cause I have a nomination that (sadly) has outstanding credentials

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Todd33
How come the party of Homophobes is full of closet gays and pedophiles?

They said he would not run for re-election, he did not resign - this was MSNBC abuout 45 minutes ago.

Yah, I mean it's not like he was banging an intern and lied about it or anything and refused to resign. What really matters is that he belongs to a party that says you should have morals. It's perfectly OK to not have morals, just don't belong to the party that ascribes to them. Plenty of room for partisans, bigots and pedophiles in the democrat party, troll.

There's just a slight difference between an extra-marital affair and, oh, PEDOPHILIA.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Just read the full report over on ABC's website. The IM's he exchanged with the kid are the damning evidence here people. They would not show any of the more graphic/sexual IM's, but if they are as bad as they say then you can count on jail time for this sick SOB.

Even the ones already posted will likely lead to a prosecution. This is a fairly serious federal crime.

Don't you generally have to act on it? Doesn't he have to send an x-rated pic, or try to meet? I only know what I've seen on those creepy dateline shows <shrug>

Anyhow, that's how the GOP setup Ritter ya know... I'm sure the Ritter defenders will be posting here soon too...

Edit: OOOH oooh there's Conjur - he's all over this one! Hmm, I guess he doesn't put Foley in the same league as Ritter...

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: mylok

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Not really a valid comparisson unless a bunch of Dems come out against blow jobs, preach to the American public about values/morals etc, then get caught on the head-end of one. Personally, I am a huge supporter of getting bjs. My wife on the other hand leads the opposition

i am sorry but i am positive my wife is the leader of that group

See, their numbers are growing. Damn it! :brokenheart: Could there be twoGrand Poobahs in that sect

What are the qualifications - cause I have a nomination that (sadly) has outstanding credentials

You see, we have been fighting the wrong enemy! You and I are not the enemy of one another, the enemy resides within our homes and has a nasty disposition 32 days a month The only qualification I can find commonality in is the fact that they used to do things before they were married that they will no longer do unless a birthday or Christmas is involved lol.

 

[conjur]

Considering your claims against Ritter are false and here we have Foley caught red-handed, there you go comparing apples to hard drives again.

 

[conjur]

Oh look! More right-wing morality!!

Video: Congressman 'tolerated' forced abortions, sex slavery
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Congr...forced_abortions_sex_slavery_0929.html

Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA) knew of and tolerated forced abortions, sex slavery and sweatshop conditions in the Northern Marianas Islands, says his Democrat challenger. Retired Lt. Col. Charlie Brown, Democratic candidate for California's 4th District, asserts Doolittle was aware of the abuses while he helped, with the aid of convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff, to fund the islands' government that allegedly exploited its workers.

In a debate on KCRA 3 TV News in Sacramento, Brown faced off against former Rep. Doug Ose, acting as a spokesman on behalf of incumbent Congressman Doolittle. Brown at one point says that Doolittle "got $10,000 from Abramoff's firm, the largest ever paid by Abramoff to a congressman."

Ose twice belittled the original accusations, saying, "[T]o suggest that John Doolittle advocated for sexual slavery and forced abortions is just poppycock."

Video and more at the link

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: conjur
Considering your claims against Ritter are false and here we have Foley caught red-handed, there you go comparing apples to hard drives again.

Hahahahahahahah damn, this is a good one. Let's compare:

Ritter actually goes TO a restaurant to meet his "young girlfriend" - to have sex with a minor, is arrested, has charges pressed and the record sealed (which he has confirmed entirely in interviews, btw, I'll post the link if you desire, but you'll just dodge this I'm sure).

Foley is dirty talking on AIM, has not been arrested or charges pressed...(yet)

Yet Conjob proclaims my claims against Ritter are false! PRICELESS!! Nomination for Partisan Hack Post of the Year! Partisans who Pick Pedophiles based on Politics! (if you said that, you'd be a regular lawn sprinkler )


Prediction: If Foley had a (D) after his name, then this thread would be all about how this was consensual and statuatory rape at best, and nothing actually happened, and it was a GOP setup, and Conjob would be leading the charge, with Todd33 prancing right behind

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: CPA
Damn, I want to side with him, but his quick resignation doesn't make it look good for him.

MUST. DEFEND. ALL. "R's"