Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

[JD50]

This is the direct result of the rhetoric. It emboldens the idiots.

What are you talking about?

 

[SandEagle]

no name? no motive? must not be muslim.

 

[classy]

Confirmed 5 people were killed, 4 more in hospital, and Giffords in surgery.

 

[shiner]

Confirmed 5 people were killed, 4 more in hospital, and Giffords in surgery.

Yet still some on here want to argue left v. right.

P&N is truly becoming the trash heap of the forums.

 

[fustercluck]

Here's an email I got yesterday from Gabriel (I got on her mailing list in one way or another )

Congress on Your Corner

This Saturday, I will host a “Congress on Your Corner” at the Safeway located at 7110 North Oracle Road on the southeast corner of Oracle and Ina. I’ll be there with my staff from 10:00 am to 11:30 am to meet with you and answer any of your questions about what is going on in Congress. For more information, please call 520-881-3588.

I hope to see you there!

Sincerely Yours,
Gabrielle Giffords

Noooo don't do it Gabby. Safeway sucks anyways.

At least Football is coming on soon to help get my mind off this sad story. They're talking about postponing the local Arizona vs Standford college hoops game, though.

 

[JohnnyGage]

What are you talking about?

Classy doesn't know. We already have Rep Grijalva and and the head of the Az Democratic party blaming rethoric as well. And no one knows anything.

It doesn't matter what the initial says on the voter card, whoever did this is obviously not right and needs to be put away or probably to experience the after effects of potassium chloride.

 

[eits]

Hey tard, you don't even know the facts of the case and you are pretending that you do. Don't you see a problem with this?

yeah, it's called a knee jerk reaction. everyone is guilty of it, including you (remember the power wristband thread?).

what i know is that arizona is one of the most poorly educated states in the country (ranked 44/50), it's a hardcore republican state, and arguably one of the most backwards states in the country. it's highly likely that a republican killed her because of her party.

thank God she's in surgery and not dead... hopefully, she will pull through. excellent job by those who were able to get her to the hospital in time to have a chance to make it.

 

[Steeplerot]

What are you talking about?

Probably the endless cries of fire! fire! from mainstream corporate media emboldening Americas mentally disabled and taking advantage of the socially isolated for entertainment and political gains. If this is right wing hate radio hopefully the FCC cracks down on fake rhetoric (99% of rw media)

The yellow journalism weekly world news/Enquirer/world-wingut daily/talk radio only divides this country and spreads fear/hate -exactly what our enemies in the mid east wish. Time to regulate the fearmingering cowards who take advantage of the goodwill and trust of the people of this country and get some sanity back.

 

[Patranus]

Man carrying concealed weapon shoots gunman preventing the death of many more.

 

[JD50]

Probably the endless cries of fire! fire! from mainstream corporate media emboldening Americas mentally disabled and taking advantage of the socially isolated for entertainment and political gains. If this is right wing hate radio hopefully the FCC cracks down on fake rhetoric (99% of rw media)

This is the type of thinking that's harmful to a free society. No surprise that it's coming from you.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

yeah, it's called a knee jerk reaction. everyone is guilty of it, including you (remember the power wristband thread?).

what i know is that arizona is one of the most poorly educated states in the country (ranked 44/50), it's a hardcore republican state, and arguably one of the most backwards states in the country. it's highly likely that a republican killed her because of her party.

thank God she's in surgery and not dead... hopefully, she will pull through. excellent job by those who were able to get her to the hospital in time to have a chance to make it.

So you've decided to be just like Arizona, no one up them, eh? For all we know it could be who you deeply wish it to be. Know what? You'd still be an ass for projecting.

 

[JohnnyGage]

Probably the endless cries of fire! fire! from mainstream corporate media emboldening Americas mentally disabled and taking advantage of the socially isolated for entertainment and political gains. If this is right wing hate radio hopefully the FCC cracks down on fake rhetoric (99% of rw media)

And right on cue.....


What if the shooter was pissed he didn't get single payer healthcare and wants revenge? Or Keith Olbermann told him to do it? I would expect you to come out in favor of shutting down 99% of the left wing media, right?

 

[JD50]

The yellow journalism weekly world news/Enquirer/world-wingut daily/talk radio only divides this country and spreads fear/hate -exactly what our enemies in the mid east wish. Time to regulate the fearmingering cowards who take advantage of the goodwill and trust of the people of this country and get some sanity back.

Classic Steeplerot. The country is divided, liberal vs. conservative, Republican vs. Democrat. Steeplerots solution? Get get rid of the Republicans/conservatives.

 

[chowderhead]

MSNBC is saying a federal judge was also shot and killed.

Here is more information on the federal judge
Judge Roll in 2009, faced death threats after presiding over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit. The lawsuit was filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher. After Judge Roll ruled the case would be certified, threats came from talk-radio shows which fueled controversy and spurred audiences into making threats against the judge[2].

The threats materialized after one show, Judge Roll's name logged more than 200 phone calls as some callers threatened the judge and his family[2].

This resulted in the judge and his wife were under a protection detail for one month as Judge Roll was given twenty four hours a day, seven days a week security by the US Marshals Service. An US Attorney's investigation ruled that four men were identified as threat makers, but no charges were filed[2].

In a July 9, 2009 interview with the Arizona Republic, Judge Roll described the time under high security as "unnerving and invasive. . . . By its nature it has to be," Roll said. Roll also said, "It (the security) was handled very professionally by the Marshals Service."[2]

At the end of the month, Roll said four key men had been identified as threat makers

from judgepedia

http://judgepedia.org/index.php/John_Roll


perhaps we will get more information as to why this happened when they interview the shooter.

 

[Steeplerot]

This is the type of thinking that's harmful to a free society. No surprise that it's coming from you.

This society is the most violent, corrupt, and failing as we speak. What options have you guys offered? Besides fantasys about a time which never exised and revisionist history. Corporations do not deserve free speech. They deserve paid speech, and for a informed public to know the difference between a commerical and news. How tyrannical. You'd think people would be getting killed its so awful asking big business to quit manipulating the populace through fear. =/

 

[Red Dawn]

House Speaker John Boehner said he was "horrified" by the shooting.

"An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve," he said. "Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society."

 

[exdeath]

From a purely neutral stand here, not arguing right or wrong, I'm just going to say this:

Politics isn't like agreeing or disagreeing that blue is the best color or red is the best color or green is the best color, and agreeing to disagree and move on with your lives.

The decisions made by politicians (and indirectly their supporters) affects real people's lives.

Take a minute to thing about the impact certains laws can have on the lives of certain people, then it's not hard to imagine how or why somebody could become upset and do something like this.

I don't support some of her policies, but I will say I commend and support and admire her for staying grounded and walking amongst the people as one of the people, and not being an elitist ruling snob who talks down to citizens like so many do.

 

[shiner]

This society is the most violent, corrupt, and failing as we speak. What options have you guys offered? Besides fantasys about a time which never exised and revisionist history. Corporations do not deserve free speech. They deserve paid speech, and for a informed public to know the difference between a commerical and news. Horribly tyrannicalness. You'd think people would be getting killed its so awful asking big business to quit manipulating the populace through fear. =/

The offer I made you earlier still stands. I will purchase you a ticket to any other country in the world in which you would like to live. All you have to do is promise never to come back to the United States.

 

[classy]

The news lady just said they are expecting Giffords to make it out of surgery, so thats good. No word on her actual condition though.

 

[Steeplerot]

Classic Steeplerot. The country is divided, liberal vs. conservative, Republican vs. Democrat. Steeplerots solution? Get get rid of the Republicans/conservatives.

Not at all. But getting rid of the corporate fear machine that has divided this country, or at least to make it accountable would be a great start at bringing conservatives back to reality with the rest of the USA.

 

[exdeath]

"Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society."

According to our history, political culture, and founding principles, they do.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Just to clue some folks in this woman was a blue dog dem. Pretty much a moderate who if anything was against "Nancy Pelosi" fringe agenda on many issues.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpoli...-motive-behind-giffords-shooting-helps-no-one

 

[Red Dawn]

According to our history, political culture, and founding principles, they do.

Take it up with Beohner then.

 

[Steeplerot]

The offer I made you earlier still stands. I will purchase you a ticket to any other country in the world in which you would like to live. All you have to do is promise never to come back to the United States.

Cry more whiner. You really are stuck on some 1960s era rhetoric like that? You guys really need to get out more.

 

[shiner]

Not at all. But getting rid of the corporate fear machine that has divided this country, or at least to make it accountable would be a great start at bringing conservatives back to reality with the rest of the USA.

You're derailing this thread and need to shut the fuck up.

Actually that advice goes to everyone who wants to turn this into a political argument. Once we know what the motive behind this shooting is you are welcome to argue and point fingers all you want. For now though everyone should be trying to keep the discussion at least 1 step above the gutter.