Too bad there weren't a few teachers with concealed carries.
More than 181 children were killed due to drivers who were drunk. In one year
http://www.edgarsnyder.com/drunk-driving/drunk-driving-statistics.html
Just to put things into perspective.
In what sense do we "coddle them," and how could that possibly have prevented what happened today?
Ms. Carry has some weird beliefs, and you shouldn't trust her on things other than ABCs and addition. Dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago, and Jesus, while probably a real historical figure who had some good ideas for the time, was just this guy, you know?
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Whenever you hear a story about a teacher going crazy, it's because they were boning a student, not shooting them.Not arguing for stricter gun control laws, but teachers go crazy too.
I hope this finally signals that its time for some sensible gun control laws. Shooting children is disgusting
More than 181 children were killed due to drivers who were drunk. In one year
http://www.edgarsnyder.com/drunk-driving/drunk-driving-statistics.html
Just to put things into perspective.
Only took a couple planes to kill a few thousand on 9/11. Should we ban air travel? It took a van and some fertilizer to blow up the federal building in Oklahoma City; should we ban those too?Which perspective?
How many cars did it take to kill 181 children? Only took a couple guns to kill 20.
No, and I work as a teacher. I don't want guns in our schools unless in the hands of trained professionals like police. Your solution wouldn't work any better in this case than the CO shootings as the shooter was wearing a vest.
Pushing ourselves towards an even more armed society isn't the solution I want. Btw, this is coming from a gun owner who has been around guns most of his life who is also and Army Vet. But I also realize this isn't and shouldn't become the old west where everyone is packing.
I'm fine with increased background checks and waiting periods, but we also need to tackle mental health in this nation instead of ignoring it.
Btw, my heart goes out to the victims, I have a ten year old son and would be devastated if something like that happened. Same goes for the 250 students I teach weekly.
Alchohol's intent isn't to kill. When someone dies by it, it was used inappropriately.
A car's intent isn't to kill. When someone dies by it, it was used inappropriately.
A GUN'S intent is to kill. When someone dies by it, it was used properly.
What is to stop such a person from doing that without a concealed carry permit?
Metal detectors.
Really now? Ask Great Britain how gun control has worked for them... now their Bobbies have to carry firearms because of the black market...Organized crime and gangs have firearms readily now as they are even more sought after with the bans.
First and foremost this situation is disgusting. The loss to the families and the emotional strife to the children is horrible.
This situation will bring out the crazies on both sides of the weapon argument.
That said, being that this forum is P&N, what in the hell constitutes sensible gun control laws? Or maybe we are talking about more gun controls? Limiting rounds an American citizen can have? Mandatory storage of firearms in a government armory? What's next?
What exactly does the Constitution of the United States not make clear about weapons? A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. What else is the government going to do for "our own protection"?
Bad people are going to have guns regardless of the Senator Boxer's dictating policy to the world. People should be able to defend themselves and there children or the children under their supervision. It would have taken one adult with a gun to potentially put that animal down. They weren't allowed.
Should we ban screwdrivers and all things pointy? Cars that weigh a ton or over? What's next from the government and those that put all of their trust in a government that is supposed to belong to the people? Maybe we should beef up Homeland Security measures some more so we can loose more of our American rights...it's for our own good after all. Maybe TSA in schools and more property searches without warrants.
a lot of truth to thisLet's get down to it, America is a violent culture that cheers and applauds the worse kinds of violence. We abhor sexuality but relish in our love for anything violent in our media.
Our video games are the most violent, our movies are the most violent and you can find the greatest buffet of violence on TV. I don't know of any civilized country that has a more violent culture than we do.
All of this violence has a cost associated with it, this is the cost.
Prohibition doesn't work in the USA. Drugs and Alcohol have shown us that. What we do need to look at though is the media and Hollywood and all the violence shoved down the average American's throat.
Look at the box office at any given time and you'll find a movie with a higher murder/death toll than even this massacre. Right now it's yet another Quentin Tarantino murder masturbation flick. It's also going to win tons of awards and people are lapping it up in droves. Americans love violence and always have. So until our culture no longer revels in watching others murdered by the buckets on the big screen we're not going to stop reveling in the murder of others period.
Because criminals don't obey gun laws.
Let's get down to it, America is a violent culture that cheers and applauds the worse kinds of violence. We abhor sexuality but relish in our love for anything violent in our media.
Our video games are the most violent, our movies are the most violent and you can find the greatest buffet of violence on TV. I don't know of any civilized country that has a more violent culture than we do.
All of this violence has a cost associated with it, this is the cost.
Prohibition doesn't work in the USA. Drugs and Alcohol have shown us that. What we do need to look at though is the media and Hollywood and all the violence shoved down the average American's throat.
Look at the box office at any given time and you'll find a movie with a higher murder/death toll than even this massacre. Right now it's yet another Quentin Tarantino murder masturbation flick. It's also going to win tons of awards and people are lapping it up in droves. Americans love violence and always have. So until our culture no longer revels in watching others murdered by the buckets on the big screen we're not going to stop reveling in the murder of others period.
..or maybe nothing should be done at all. Unfortuntely for you, most Americans are for making amendments to try and prevent incidents like this from happening,... there are ways without violating your precious gun rights.
Or since we can't stop criminals, we shouldn't enforce laws, or since we can't stop traffic fatalities, we shouldn't prosecute drunk drivers who causes them.. after all, they''re gonna do it anyway.
are u fukin serious????? Britain doesnt have anywhere near the same problems with gun rampages as the US. How on earth can u defend it in light of all the recent mass shootings in the US??? Why on EARTH would u need guns for self defence when these people are already suicidal to begin with and kill themselves after the rampage?
Only took a couple planes to kill a few thousand on 9/11. Should we ban air travel? It took a van and some fertilizer to blow up the federal building in Oklahoma City; should we ban those too?
People who are determined to harm large groups of people at a time are going to find a way to do it. That's not a valid reason to trade away the freedoms of millions of law-abiding people who never use their weapons for harming others.