People either acknowledge that 2A is about overthrowing a tyranny government, or they don't. Overthrowing tyranny by definition means civilians must have the same weapons that the military has. Period.
I consider semi auto rifles with military rounds and combat features assault weapons.
Like I said above most of what was outlawed in 94.
You can stroke the language all you want.
and you call him a fucking idiot?
LOL
That is exactly what the authors of the Constitution meant... so yeah, you and him both.
You have no idea why the features are there, you don't even know what they are. You're a fucking idiot.
You do realize if semi's were banned, then crazy people would just move to bolt/lever guns, then to knives (like in the UK and Australia). It's just a never ending slide. You should just be honest and advocate a total gun ban for civilians, because that's what you desire.
Bravo again.
/Golf clap #2
That is exactly what the authors of the Constitution meant... so yeah, you and him both.
I'd give you a round for suggesting that banning semi-autos will do anything at all about crime or shooting sprees, but hey, arguing with statists on a tech forum... shit, I got better things to do with my time.
Yet not many rampage killers using gas to kill people.
And did you forget about the Oklahoma bomber? Diesel fuel and fertilizer...... more innocent children dead, and FAR more innocent people total, than this incident with a gun. Batshit crazy people will do batshit crazy stuff regardless of how they have to do it. IMO the more they have to think about how to carry out their batshit crazy plan the worse it is but that is purely speculation on my part.
With modern technology, is it really? Is it worth lives? We have people wanting to install metal detectors, armed guards, etc. Seems like those would be far more costs.
I suppose it's just like everything else.....people want all of this stuff but nobody ever wants to pay for it (hence our debt problems in the country today).
My wife just brought up an excellent idea....why doesn't the schools install a button similar to what banks use, that will lock down areas and notify authorities that help is needed immediately? Maybe sound an alarm while at it. It may have not helped but it surely wouldn't have hurt.
Are you implying that batshit crazy people who are willing to do batshit crazy stuff like killing 20 small kids will cease to do batshit crazy things if they no longer have "legal" access to weapons that you deem to be "assault weapons"?
And did you forget about the Oklahoma bomber? Diesel fuel and fertilizer...... more innocent children dead, and FAR more innocent people total, than this incident with a gun. Batshit crazy people will do batshit crazy stuff regardless of how they have to do it. IMO the more they have to think about how to carry out their batshit crazy plan the worse it is but that is purely speculation on my part.
Yet you have no tanks no drones, only an unhealthy fear of the government.
I'll make sure to add the ban on high cap mags to my ban issue then. Thanks for reminding me.
If those issues line up with mine then I am very unhappy, if not then I am very happy.
Oklahoma city and rampage killings are not the same thing perpetrated by the same types of people.
Rampage killings are becoming more common I think we need to find ways lessen the amount of them and the damage that can be done by those that commit the crimes.
Columbine killers also made bombs but everyone they killed were with guns.
It's downright sickening what goes on at these gun shows and how easy it is for people to obtain weapons.
Edit: I just re-read what you wrote and now am confused?
Are you saying that you are happy if I disagree with your issues and are not happy if I don't disagree with your issue?
Thought that you had better things to do with your time?
Guess not....
Yeah I think a gun and ammo tax could also be used to fund armed guards at schools etc.
Few ways outside of banning to effect change.
Good to know the '94 ban was not inclusive enough, I was living in California at the time so I'm probably mixing them.
If rampage killers started using bolt action rifles to kill people I'd give that argument more weight.
Schools are already gun free zones though?!?!
Look, I truly get where you are coming from but a single armed guard (which will be the best case scenario due to budget constraints) will simply be the first guy a batshit crazy asshole like this shoots.
Seeing as this is an elementary school, I am not exactly sure what the answer is. Most of the adults are women and women tend to conceal carry in their purses which are often out of their direct control while they do their jobs. I highly doubt that I would bring a gun, regardless of legality, into a situation like that. With that said, I think that empowering the people that will actually be there when the shit hits the fan to put an early end to the situation is the absolute best we can do. I simply don't have another answer for a situation as horrible as this and regardless of what some people think banning a few items won't do the trick.