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Jaskalas

Lifer
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basically this

also, I don't get wtf a person is thinking shooting others if they hate their lives. Shooting themselves, I can at least quasi-understand, but going to a school and shooting little kids? WTF?

While I appreciate that there are depressed folks who don't want to harm others, too often folks lose the value of life, blame others, and seek vengeance regardless of their innocence.

You don't understand it cause it's mental illness.
 

OverVolt

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Schools are already gun-free zones.

That said, people have got some kind of mental problems more frequently these days. So I think that is the real problem. Media blasts every-single one of these on TV and then there is just copycat after copycat. Its messed up.
 

corwin

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What's you idea of sensible?
Laws that are already on the books to prosecute those who break them, there are even many un-sensible ones as well such as "gun-free" zones, like elementary schools FFS. Look how well that one is working out...or the other model of "sensible gun control" that is DC
 

PokerGuy

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L2read, "moron". I addressed my comment to "the mindless hacks on both sides", responding to your lopsided attack only on the anti-gun nuts. You can decide for yourself whether you belong in either group. I see my comment was pointless anyway, since these mindless hacks consider their partisan jabber.

Your comment may have been addressed to both sides but you chose to quote my post. I was responding to the OP.

Anyway, I apologize for my nasty response to your post, it wasn't called for.... this senseless killing of innocent people (especially children) is upsetting, and having people jump on it for politics is really sickening.
 
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I love your broad generalizations please by all means show examples....

<---Stirring the Rethuglicant Troll pot.

Would you and the posters responding to you please cool your jets and stop politicizing this tragedy? I don't see how anyone using the word "Rethuglicant" can plausibly accuse anyone else of trolling.
 

Binarycow

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I'm literally sitting here typing this while tears are rolling down my cheeks. I want to stop crying but I cant. I cry for those innocent children, thinking of them and thinking of my son.

Fridays are my day-off, I saw this on the news coming back from lunch with my 6-year old son at his elementary school. If you ever saw a roomful of children sitting side by side eating their lunch you would have a hard time imagine any human being would have enough hate in his heart to harm them, much less... My wife is also from Connecticut and her family is about 20-25 miles east of Newtown.

What is wrong with us as a society that we have to endure these random shootings all across our country during this holiday season where we all should be safe and warm?
 
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They seem to do so in other countries that have gun control.

Originally Posted by WackyDan View Post
Really now? Ask Great Britain how gun control has worked for them... now their Bobbies have to carry firearms because of the black market...Organized crime and gangs have firearms readily now as they are even more sought after with the bans.


In The United Kingdom there are 0.22 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants; for comparison, the figure for the United States was 3.0, and for Germany 0.2

That's well over ten times more in the US. And it doesn't include accidental shootings.

Good... we need to get that rate higher as it is mostly the riff-raff dieing in those counts.

LOL at WackyDan completely doing a 180 and abandoning his original thesis.

Techs: criminals seem to obey gun control laws in other countries
WD : what about England?
Techs: provides statistics showing England has lower gun related shooting
WD : GOOD! We need to increase gun related murders in US as the undesirables are mainly the ones dying.

Dude, at least TRY to rebut his statistics or at the very least ask for a source - SOMETHING that goes to the heart of his argument - before completely abandoning your initial argument..
 
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I'm literally sitting here typing this while tears are rolling down my cheeks. I want to stop crying but I cant. I cry for those innocent children, thinking of them and thinking of my son.

Fridays are my day-off, I saw this on the news coming back from lunch with my 6-year old son at his elementary school. If you ever saw a roomful of children sitting side by side eating their lunch you would have a hard time imagine any human being would have enough hate in his heart to harm them, much less... My wife is also from Connecticut and her family is about 20-25 miles east of Newtown.

What is wrong with us as a society that we have to endure these random shootings all across our country during this holiday season where we all should be safe and warm?

You're not alone. My youngest is 4 and in pre-kindergarten. What I've heard is that is about the age range of most of the kids involved here. It just makes me sick. I'm literally thinking and fighting back the odd almost tear as I sit at my desk.
 

Ausm

Lifer
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Laws that are already on the books to prosecute those who break them, there are even many un-sensible ones as well such as "gun-free" zones, like elementary schools FFS. Look how well that one is working out...or the other model of "sensible gun control" that is DC

So basically we are doing enough already because we average a mass shooting every other month in the Country? Gotcha!
 

corwin

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Would you and the posters responding to you please cool your jets and stop politicizing this tragedy? I don't see how anyone using the word "Rethuglicant" can plausibly accuse anyone else of trolling.
Done...this is a sad day, sick people...heard rumors that there is another body in a home connected to the shooter as well...
 

Ausm

Lifer
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Would you and the posters responding to you please cool your jets and stop politicizing this tragedy? I don't see how anyone using the word "Rethuglicant" can plausibly accuse anyone else of trolling.

Sorry just calling them what they are but I agree this post isn't about their hate for me but for the people who were needlessly killed.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Newtown, Conn. School District Had Recently Installed New Safety Protocols
In Letter To Parents Strict Guidelines Were Outlined For 4 Elementary Schools

CBS 2 has obtained the letter sent home to parents describing the new safety protocols:

Dear Members of our Sandy Hook Family,

Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry. Visitors will still be required to report directly to the office and sign in. If our office staff does not recognize you, you will be required to show identification with a picture id. Please understand that with nearly 700 students and over 1000 parents representing 500 SHS families, most parents will be asked to show identification.

Doors will be locked at approximately 9:30 a.m. Any student arriving after that time must be walked into the building and signed in at the office. Before that time our regular drop-off procedures will be in place. I encourage all parents to have their children come to school and return home on the bus and to remain in school for the entire school day. The beginning and ending of our school day are also important instructional times and therefore we want all our students to reap the benefits of full participation in our program.

We need your help and cooperation for our system to work effectively. Our office staff is handling multiple tasks. Though they will work diligently to help you into the building as quickly as possible, there may be a short delay until someone can view you on the handset and allow you to come in electronically. There are times during the day when office personnel are on the telephone, addressing student concerns, or in the copy room; there are other times when only one person is in the front office. Please help our staff by identifying yourself and provide your child&#8217;s name.

Keep in mind we will be following our district guidelines which may need revision once we test the system.

Please know your involvement continues to be critical to our school&#8217;s effectiveness and your child&#8217;s success. We continue to encourage and value your presence in our classrooms and are counting on your cooperation with the implementation of this safety initiative.

Sincerely,
Mrs. Hochsprung

It is unclear how the shooter, reportedly armed with two semi-automatic handguns, gained access to the school or if he showed identification, or if he had entered prior to the 9:30 a.m. doors-locked mandate. It is also unclear how the shooter gained access to the school halls and classrooms.
 

corwin

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So basically we are doing enough already because we average a mass shooting every other month in the Country? Gotcha!
Mental illness is a rising problem...take a look in the mirror if you need proof
 

Matt1970

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Sensible Gun control may seem Political to your unemployed mind but it seems like common sense to me.

This is a problem with society. Guns have been around for centuries but this kind of shit just didn't happen very often.
 

corwin

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This is a problem with society. Guns have been around for centuries but this kind of shit just didn't happen very often.
This...our society has placed such a stigma on mental illness that nobody seeks help anymore and they eventually do sick shit like this
 

tydas

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I have kids in grammar school and I honestly don't know what to tell them..
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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They seem to do so in other countries that have gun control.

Do other countries have nearly the amount of guns in circulation as we do? How about two huge ass borders (and tons of coastland) that we can't seem to stop people, drugs, and anything else that it is profitable to be smuggled through?
 
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This is a problem with society. Guns have been around for centuries but this kind of shit just didn't happen very often.

Not targeted at you directly but be the bigger man, everyone, and let the gun control talk leave to another thread. I mean that for anyone engaging in that discussion.
 
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