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schneiderguy

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So what, exactly, is it about the AWB expiring that is resulting in all of these mass shootings?

He won't answer because:

A. He doesn't understand what the AWB actually did.
B. He can't make a coherent argument besides random snippets of talking points he hears on MSNBC.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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It's crazy that a national news station put up the guys Facebook picture but it wasn't him.

No shit! Maybe Don can answer this but does that poor bastard have any recourse against whatever news agencies reported him as the shooter? I am sure this guys life is going to be hell for a while.
 

Subyman

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Nice to see that you're excited about children getting murdered so you can further your agenda.

I thought the title had a strange tone to it as well, especially when the OP attacked guns right off the bat.
 

poohbear

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Really now? Ask Great Britain how gun control has worked for them... now their Bobbies have to carry firearms because of the black market...Organized crime and gangs have firearms readily now as they are even more sought after with the bans.

are u fukin serious????? Britain doesnt have anywhere near the same problems with gun rampages as the US. How on earth can u defend it in light of all the recent mass shootings in the US??? Why on EARTH would u need guns for self defence when these people are already suicidal to begin with and kill themselves after the rampage?
 

schneiderguy

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are u fukin serious????? Britain doesnt have anywhere near the same problems with gun rampages as the US. How on earth can u defend it in light of all the recent mass shootings in the US???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings

The Cumbria shootings was a killing spree that occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, Derrick Bird, killed 12 people and injured 11 others before killing himself in Cumbria, England.
 

Ausm

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are u fukin serious????? Britain doesnt have anywhere near the same problems with gun rampages as the US. How on earth can u defend it in light of all the recent mass shootings in the US??? Why on EARTH would u need guns for self defence when these people are already suicidal to begin with and kill themselves after the rampage?

This backs up your post.

Gun deaths per capita of 100,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Also this one...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms
 
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Subyman

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Hmmm, perhaps that was the right facebook? Some are saying the facebook image I linked to was photoshopped. I don't know, news sucks in our social media age.
 

Puddle Jumper

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I see you are joining the Rightwing hate machine...welcome!

Putting an exclamation point at the end of a tittle about a school shooting is pretty fucking tasteless, it makes it seem like you are excited about having a change to criticize your political opponents.
 
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No shit! Maybe Don can answer this but does that poor bastard have any recourse against whatever news agencies reported him as the shooter? I am sure this guys life is going to be hell for a while.

Potentially, though he would have to show that they published his identity either knowing it was false, or with reckless disregard for its truth or falsity.

Since (we are still being told), the shooter was a 24-year-old from Newtown, CT, now living in NJ, and the Ryan Lanza whose Facebook profile was used to grab that photo is also a 24-year-old named Ryan Lanza, originially from Newtown, CT but now living in NJ, I don't really consider it reckless disregard to have assumed they were one and the same. It's also possible the news identified the right Ryan Lanza and the person claiming not to be the shooter is some third party perpetuating a hoax.

This Gawker piece discusses these possibilities. http://gawker.com/5968551/is-this-ryan-lanza-the-connecticut-school-shooter
 

Ausm

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Putting an exclamation point at the end of a tittle about a school shooting is pretty fucking tasteless, it makes it seem like you are excited about having a change to criticize your political opponents.

Your assumption is incorrect but you are entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to post the news the way I see fit. Please attack the message and not the messenger.
 
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Subyman

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Ugh, fox news has one of the kindergarteners on the air talking. Pretty damn sad that fox news would do that. Last thing that child needs is to be on the air talking about his class mates being murdered.
 

Jaskalas

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Ugh, fox news has one of the kindergarteners on the air talking. Pretty damn sad that fox news would do that. Last thing that child needs is to be on the air talking about his class mates being murdered.

Gotta agree I don't like that.
 

tcG

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If all human life is equally precious, then why am I expected to be more upset about this than about equally terrible things that happen on a daily basis? Perhaps because it is the highly publicized, sensational events like this that can be used to further agendas, rather than the steady stream of always-occurring terrible things (which we ignore most of the time).
 

Doppel

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This is fucking horrendous. Our society has to get a grip on these crazy fucks doing this. Whatever we are "trying" isn't working.
 

schneiderguy

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If all human life is equally precious, then why am I expected to be more upset about this than about equally terrible things that happen on a daily basis? Perhaps because it is the highly publicized, sensational events like this that can be used to further agendas, rather than the steady stream of always-occurring terrible things (which we ignore most of the time).

Because the real problem with gun violence in the United States comes from minorities in gangs shooting each other. You can't mention that because it's racist to do so. IIRC there's something like 10,000 gun homicides in the US every year, which means that about 30 people are getting shot every day, on average. A shooting like this, while tragic, is a drop in the bucket.

So in order to further their agenda, they have to latch on to events like this where the shooter is white, or looks white enough to pass as one. Bonus points if he uses an "assault weapon" which are used in a statistically insignificant amount of crimes.
 
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