Connecticut School shooting!

[raildogg]

I don't know what happened but I will say that the problem lies with people. People as individuals are living unbalanced lives and that translates into society being unbalanced. It is not just here but everywhere. The only thing we can do is make ourselves better people in every way.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

When this shit is happening more and more often (Aurora Theater Shooting, Last week's Mall shooting, now Elementary School Shooting). You have to question the status quo.

When I was in college, there were a large group of extremely liberal students who insisted that we needed to consider why certain Middle-Easterners were so pissed off at America that they would carry out a massive terrorist operation like 9/11. And they had a point; considering the motivation behind an act is a better way to help make sure it never happens again. Now we find ourselves with a rash of shootings, and the solution is "just take away the guns." Well, OK, fine, but what about the root cause of this problem? What is causing the build-up of angst in our country that is causing people to go completely off the rails and shoot up public places? Why is it important that we consider the motivations of the international terrorist but not the domestic one?

Taking away guns after a school shooting is like building the TSA after 9/11; it's saying that the problem on 9/11 wasn't that there were a group of highly determined people who wanted to harm us, it was that planes weren't secure enough. You see the tragedy of a school shooting and think "hey, if he didn't have a gun, he couldn't have harmed anyone." Yes, he could have, though probably not at as effectively. The real question is "why did he want to and how can we help stop these types of actions in the future?"

 

[BoberFett]

BTW can you gun nuts hold off for at least a day on spewing your arm-everyone-in-sight-in-order-to-make-us-safer garbage out of respect for the families involved this time around?

The OP starts with a political message, and you single out the "gun nuts" for spewing their politics.

What a shameless bunch of whores. And Vito wonder why I attack Democrats...

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I don't know what happened but I will say that the problem lies with people. People as individuals are living unbalanced lives and that translates into society being unbalanced. It is not just here but everywhere. The only thing we can do is make ourselves better people in every way.

Of course the problem lies with people. And problem people with guns are a big fucking problem.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Its a longer wait to get the new ipad than a new gun.

Apple runs a background check on you before they let you purchase an iPad?

 

[halik]

Wow cnn now saying at least 20 dead, least 10 kids. WTF is wrong with people.

 

[PokerGuy]

This is a terrible thing, and I can't believe you morons are already heading down the same well worn path favored by idiots talking about gun control as the solution. Well, nevermind, considering the pervasive level of stupidity, I guess I can believe it.

You have no idea who the guy is, what actually happened, when/where/how he got his weapon(s) and so forth.... Sad and pathetic.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Some shameless people in here. If you want to discuss gun control go start a thread for it but keep that shit out of here as you feign concern for the victims of this horrific incident.

 

[Jaskalas]

Holyshit just heard there were 27 fatalities and 14 children dead with over 100 shots fired.

With everyone else disarmed, no one could stop him.

I recall classrooms only having a single entrance / exit. Maybe not the ones in main buildings, but the addon trailers they use... those things are death traps.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Jesus, dude... 14 children. dead. jesus.

 

[CombatChuk]

When I was in college, there were a large group of extremely liberal students who insisted that we needed to consider why certain Middle-Easterners were so pissed off at America that they would carry out a massive terrorist operation like 9/11. And they had a point; considering the motivation behind an act is a better way to help make sure it never happens again. Now we find ourselves with a rash of shootings, and the solution is "just take away the guns." Well, OK, fine, but what about the root cause of this problem? What is causing the build-up of angst in our country that is causing people to go completely off the rails and shoot up public places? Why is it important that we consider the motivations of the international terrorist but not the domestic one?

Taking away guns after a school shooting is like building the TSA after 9/11; it's saying that the problem on 9/11 wasn't that there were a group of highly determined people who wanted to harm us, it was that planes weren't secure enough. You see the tragedy of a school shooting and think "hey, if he didn't have a gun, he couldn't have harmed anyone." Yes, he could have, though probably not at as effectively. The real question is "why did he want to and how can we help stop these types of actions in the future?"

The United States in general treats Mental Health as such a taboo subject. It's true, that if people were more mentally balanced shootings like this wouldn't happen with as much frequency. The problem is, no one is going to treat Mental Health with the resources that it really needs, so we're left with restricting access to things that can cause harm others. In this case, guns.

 

[dfuze]

27 dead, 18 of them kids.
Even though I'm on the other side of the state this kind of thing makes me scared for my kids to go to school

 

[PokerGuy]

27 dead, 18 of them kids.

Sad, heartbreaking and disgusting

 

[waterjug]

The United States in general treats Mental Health as such a taboo subject. It's true, that if people were more mentally balanced shootings like this wouldn't happen with as much frequency. The problem is, no one is going to treat Mental Health with the resources that it really needs, so we're left with restricting access to things that can cause harm others. In this case, guns.

work in the field, and I agree. Over half the population will seek mental health services over the course of their life, yet there's this ridiculous stigma attached to it.

 

[dfuze]

Worst part as being a parent is this is the last thing you expect to fear when you send your child to school.

 

[rudder]

WTF.. two shooters.. one in custody.

 

[Mai72]

I'm teaching in South Korea and this would never happen here. Citizens are not allowed to have guns. This is a tragedy and it's going to be repeated until something is done.

 

[nehalem256]

I'm teaching in South Korea and this would never happen here. Citizens are not allowed to have guns. This is a tragedy and it's going to be repeated until something is done.

You mean just like Japan?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=80964&page=1#.UMtvNIM701I

Maybe the government should ban knives too?

 

[raildogg]

I'm teaching in South Korea and this would never happen here. Citizens are not allowed to have guns. This is a tragedy and it's going to be repeated until something is done.

It is people using guns. Guns don't shoot themselves. Maybe people in South Korea find other ways.

The point is that people are perverted, messed up and have a lot of imbalance - most, if not all of us. A lot of people are capable of doing very terrible things under certain circumstances so don't think that we are any better. Some hold it in while others cannot/will not.

I see a lot of hostility on this forum directed at people whom one does not know. I find it strange that these same people are calling for calm and peace when they themselves are spreading hate.

 

[PokerGuy]

I'm teaching in South Korea and this would never happen here. Citizens are not allowed to have guns. This is a tragedy and it's going to be repeated until something is done.

Until "something" is done? Sorry, but with a population of 300 million plus, there's going to be incidents like this periodically, no matter what is done. No matter what you do you can't remove all weapons from the US, and even if you could, taking away a way for people to defend themselves is not the right answer regardless.

I'm sure the idiot left will use this to once again try to score points (as we've seen in this thread already) and push stupid agendas.

 

[dfuze]

WTF.. two shooters.. one in custody.

Where are you seeing 2nd shooter? I keep refreshing my local news sites.

Edit: Ok, I see a reference here they think there might be a 2nd but aren't sure. wtnh.com

 

[lotus503]

I don't even know what to say this is so goddamn sad.

One thing is certain society has got some serious fucking issues churning out these people.

 

[cirrrocco]

That is just fucked up.. Poor parents and their wonderful kids. RIP young ones. May you live to be 150 in your next life.

 

[rudder]

Where are you seeing 2nd shooter? I keep refreshing my local news sites.

Maybe not a shooter. Police nabbed someone in the woods near the school. May or may not be related.

 

[Jaskalas]

Maybe not a shooter. Police nabbed someone in the woods near the school. May or may not be related.

Should be pretty clear later on, after witnesses confirm the number of men involved.

Way I figure it, a single man walks into the admin office - shoots it up, then goes into a classroom where everyone inside is trapped.