Connecticut School shooting!

[Lithium381]

where were all the ccw to stop this?

Haven't heard that schools are gun free zones? I'm not sure if CCW overrides that but I don't think so . . .


edit from wikipedia:

Federal Gun Free School Zones Act
The Federal Gun Free School Zone Act limits where a person may legally carry a firearm. It does this by making it generally unlawful for an armed citizen to be within 1000 feet (extending out from the property lines) of a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a K-12 school. Although a State-issued carry permit may exempt a person from this restriction in the State that physically issued their permit, it does not exempt them in other States which recognize their permit under reciprocity agreements made with the issuing State. The law's failure to provide adequate protection to LEOSA qualified officers, licensed concealed carry permit holders, and other armed citizens, is an issue that the United States Congress so far has not addressed.

edit2: i thought they had an armed officer on campus??

 

[WakeUpAmerica]

Every time a black person does something wrong, it's because he/ she is black. When it's white it's "Oh he was just sick, doesn't matter what the color is, people in general are just sick". So let me guess, stereotypes don't apply here right? ? I have read this story on three different news site and hundreds of comments and not ONE has called the shooter an animal, savage or sub-human! I wonder why.

 

[irishScott]

where were all the ccw to stop this?

Outside of schools. Even CCWs come with restrictions, I don't know of any state that lets one carry a firearm on school property; CCW or no.

 

[Venix]

where were all the ccw to stop this?

Following the laws that prohibit carrying on school property.

 

[Jaskalas]

Every time a black person does something wrong, it's because he/ she is black. When it's white it's "Oh he was just sick, doesn't matter what the color is, people in general are just sick". So let me guess, stereotypes don't apply here right? ? I have read this story on three different news site and hundreds of comments and not ONE has called the shooter an animal, savage or sub-human! I wonder why.

If he were alive we'd certainly treat him like one.

Also... this isn't gang warfare he was involved in. He has no friends who'd do the same, no group or cult. It's just him, one sick !@#$% who we're all glad is no longer with us. Maybe if there was a group standing up for him, we'd be on their !@# too.

 

[Jaskalas]

where were all the ccw to stop this?

Far as we know, he was the only armed person there. Notice the consequences, and all the power it gave him.

 

[Mai72]

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

I feel very safe in South Korea. I can walk virtually anywhere in Korea and I never have to worry about my safety. In the future, could we see a mass exodus of US citizens who move to Asia because they simply want their children to attend school without the fear of being gunned down? D:

 

[Agent11]

Outside of schools. Even CCWs come with restrictions, I don't know of any state that lets one carry a firearm on school property; CCW or no.

Oregon used to, I think there may have been a recent law that you cant tho.

 

[theevilsharpie]

Every time a black person does something wrong, it's because he/ she is black. When it's white it's "Oh he was just sick, doesn't matter what the color is, people in general are just sick". So let me guess, stereotypes don't apply here right? ? I have read this story on three different news site and hundreds of comments and not ONE has called the shooter an animal, savage or sub-human! I wonder why.

Not even the most socially maladjusted ghetto thug would gun down a classroom full of small children. This goes well beyond "savage."

 

[Ausm]

You allude to needing stricter gun laws if not an outright ban which we know doesn't work (Chicago anyone?)...I've said the laws we have are sensible enough if not too much to begin with restricting lawful use rather than criminals...so you're up tiger, what's "sensible" to you?

I think banning large clip magazines for pistols and rifle would be a great start.

 

[Ausm]

Ausm: Making Democrats Look Bad Daily

Oh so the NRA has nothing do in Politics? Do us a favor a get a job so we who work don't have to support your worthless free loading ass.

 

[shortylickens]

I think banning large clip magazines for pistols and rifle would be a great start.

Why?
It only takes one bullet to kill someone.
And you know people can reload right?
And Cali has a 10 round limit and they have horrible gun crime.

 

[FuzzyBee]

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-land-without-guns-how-japan-has-virtually-eliminated-shooting-deaths/260189/

I feel very safe in South Korea. I can walk virtually anywhere in Korea and I never have to worry about my safety. In the future, could we see a mass exodus of US citizens who move to Asia because they simply want their children to attend school without the fear of being gunned down? D:

Well, until North Korea perfects a nuclear weapon.

By the way, I guess you didn't hear about the knife-wielder in Chenpeng Village today, did you?

 

[Angry Irishman]

I think banning large clip magazines for pistols and rifle would be a great start.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Banning = infringing

 

[RampantAndroid]

Why?
It only takes one bullet to kill someone.
And you know people can reload right?
And Cali has a 10 round limit and they have horrible gun crime.

Not just that...no ban is going to stop it. The Clinton ban...did NOT remove the existing firearms. How many people are stocking up on magazines right now anyway? (Hint: I AM.)

 

[irishScott]

I think banning large clip magazines for pistols and rifle would be a great start.

Alright, tell me how that's going to save lives. No, not how it "should" save lives, how it "will". Show me a study detailing how banning normal-capacity (because that's what most of them are for the type) magazines will help... anything.

And I'm not just talking armchair tactics, show me how it's going to hurt supply. Show me why the criminals are going to stop using them (as little as they do). Show me why having 10 shots an unskilled shooter can reload in 2 seconds is soooo much safer for everyone else then having 17 shots without reloading.

You can't. Your supporters and compatriots can't. You have no rational basis, and it is only by politicizing tragedies that your views gain any political traction. Your views are based entirely on irrational emotional impulses that preclude critical thinking. Yes, that thought-process goes for many gun rights advocates as well. That does not make you exempt.

 

[Muse]

If Bloomberg ran for president he'd likely get my vote. He's one of the few who are dedicated to gun control, to stopping the proliferation of weapons used in these massacres.

Will Obama lead now on the issue? We'll see. His comments today suggest it's possible.

I'll say it here again, I don't think you or any other American who isn't specifically vetted to act in the public interest should be allowed to own a handgun much less an assault rifle. I've heard the arguments against before, it's bullshit.

 

[Agent11]

Alright, tell me how that's going to save lives. No, not how it "should" save lives, how it "will". Show me a study detailing how banning normal-capacity (because that's what most of them are for the type) magazines will help... anything.

And I'm not just talking armchair tactics, show me how it's going to hurt supply. Show me why the criminals are going to stop using them (as little as they do). Show me why having 10 shots an unskilled shooter can reload in 2 seconds is soooo much safer for everyone else then having 17 shots without reloading.

You can't. Your supporters and compatriots can't. You have no rational basis, and it is only by politicizing tragedies that your views gain any political traction. Your views are based entirely on irrational emotional impulses that preclude critical thinking. Yes, that thought-process goes for many gun rights advocates as well. That does not make you exempt.

The colorado shooter most likely jammed because of his large capacity mag, so there is an instance of a large capacity mag saving lives.

 

[Lithium381]

If Bloomberg ran for president he'd likely get my vote. He's one of the few who are dedicated to gun control, to stopping the proliferation of weapons used in these massacres.

Will Obama lead now on the issue? We'll see. His comments today suggest it's possible.

I'll say it here again, I don't think you or any other American who isn't specifically vetted to act in the public interest should be allowed to own a handgun much less an assault rifle. I've heard the arguments against before, it's bullshit.

define "assault rifle". . .

 

[CanOWorms]

The real issue is the lack of assimilation of so many White (mostly Republican) Males. Their obsession with guns is alarming. Why are we letting them have guns when they're only American in name? They live on the outskirts of our society.

Perhaps only assimilated Americans should have guns.

 

[Agent11]

In case you hadn't realized it this is a free country. Assimilate that.

 

[Muse]

I'm teaching in South Korea and this would never happen here. Citizens are not allowed to have guns. This is a tragedy and it's going to be repeated until something is done.

QFT. People in other countries have to be shaking their heads, "those crazy Americans, shooting each other again. What a crazy place!"

 

[Angry Irishman]

If Bloomberg ran for president he'd likely get my vote. He's one of the few who are dedicated to gun control, to stopping the proliferation of weapons used in these massacres.

Will Obama lead now on the issue? We'll see. His comments today suggest it's possible.

I'll say it here again, I don't think you or any other American who isn't specifically vetted to act in the public interest should be allowed to own a handgun much less an assault rifle. I've heard the arguments against before, it's bullshit.

Great opinion regarding the bullshit statement...too bad it isn't based with supporting facts.

Obama has nothing to lead as the right to bear arms is a right and an amendment in the Constitution of the United States. Other than leading a change to this amendment via Congressional vote he would be dictating....big difference.

Reference previous post as it applies here as well:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Gun control = infringing

 

[Muse]

define "assault rifle". . .

Hey, I don't give a damn. If it fires bullets I don't think you should be allowed to have it.

 

[Angry Irishman]

The real issue is the lack of assimilation of so many White (mostly Republican) Males. Their obsession with guns is alarming. Why are we letting them have guns when they're only American in name? They live on the outskirts of our society.

Perhaps only assimilated Americans should have guns.

What? D: