Connecticut School shooting!

[s0me0nesmind1]

Another hilarious concept? That more people need to see psychiatrists and junk like that. Guess what? No other nation falls for such bullshit to the degree we do. Because no other country is on "depression pills" and popping them like addicts like we do. It's called life - and it's filled with stress. If you can't handle life, quit delaying it and just kill yourself now instead of trying to pop pills. Taking pills only delay the inevitable.

http://articles.cnn.com/2007-07-09/...ressure-drugs-psychotropic-drugs?_s=PM:HEALTH

 

[shortylickens]

http://imgur.com/gallery/P1H2q


Did anyone know about her?

 

[manimal]

When you pierce the anti gun argument at its most simple terms, it is the attempt by predators to loot and rape people. It is a deviant's reign to prevent others from owning a gun in the home of the brave. Either we're a nation of rapists or we're not. The dark fantasy of fighting your neighbor who is some member of privileged class, whether it be absurd American styled corporatism, the United States middle class, Asian-American store owners, whatever is the epitome of brigandage itself!

This is what is going to happen in the next few years. We as a society will no longer cater to the librul minority and their deluded fantasies of deviancy. Their delusions are a fringe element that is despicable. We drag these men out of the bunkers of predation that are their minds. Bring them into society and scold them out of their barbarity. At long last the opportunity costs of living under an unarmed nation will disappear over night.

Did you kill small animals as a child? I wonder how close you fit the profile of a psychotic deviant?

What I said has about as many asinine assumptions as most of your posts in the last 24 hours.


Have you ever had any counseling or have you taken any serious medication? I am asking this seriously because by accounts you seem to exhibit some strange behavior in the light of such a tragedy. In a few years when you grow up a bit I hope you look back at this and question yourself.


I keep coming back to the concept of lack of empathy as a driver for these horrible events.


Do you have a shred of shame or decency?

Real question.

 

[schneiderguy]

I don't see where those Militia's where using 30 shot banana clips in their muzzle loading guns?

"Banana clip" is not the proper term for a detachable magazine.

I'll leave you the exercise of figuring out how ridiculous this argument is.

 

[Tom]

Firearms-related homicide killed 11,100 people last year.

2% of gun crime involves assault weapons. 98% involves plain jane handguns, rifles and shotguns. Less than 0.5% of all firearms-related homicides each year are the result of mass shootings.

Does anyone else think that 11,000 lives isn't that big of a deal? We lose 600,000 per year to heart disease, and 53,000 to the flu/pneumonia.

What's all the commotion about, really? Did people find a bandwagon to jump on today? Did some dead children make you care about an issue you really didn't give two sh1ts about yesterday?

There's more than 30,000 deaths by gun per year.

We spend a lot of money and effort fighting the flu.

We could do more to reduce gun deaths without endangering our 2nd Amendment rights.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Yes. It is so easy to get a gun here. I could walk out my door and have an ak-47 in less than a half hour. That is pretty fracked up. I have friend who lives in Canada, he called me today after the shooting and said that is why Canada has gun laws all they have to do is turn on the tv every night and see what a great job guns do here in the USA...repeal the 2nd amendment

Sounds like you live in a pretty rough neighborhood. You could probably score some cocaine, too, and last I heard it's still illegal. So, what's your point?

 

[Tom]

"Banana clip" is not the proper term for a detachable magazine.

I'll leave you the exercise of figuring out how ridiculous this argument is.

Its an acceptable term for a 30 shot clip which is about the size of a banana if not always the shape of one.

 

[Druidx]

http://imgur.com/gallery/P1H2q


Did anyone know about her?

Thanks for posting, it's stories like hers which people should remember, not the nut killer.
Sadly that not the way it works. Most people will remember the VA tech killer but not Dr. Librescu who died blocking the door, giving his students time to escape thru the windows.

 

[lotus503]

Oh yea that was straight from the TV too.

No actually I don't have cable, I get all my news online, so while it may have been on TV, it's not where or how I came to my conclusions.

 

[Jaskalas]

http://imgur.com/gallery/P1H2q

Did anyone know about her?

No. :'(

 

[schneiderguy]

Its an acceptable term for a 30 shot clip which is about the size of a banana if not always the shape of one.

No, it's not.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Did you kill small animals as a child? I wonder how close you fit the profile of a psychotic deviant?

What I said has about as many asinine assumptions as most of your posts in the last 24 hours.


Have you ever had any counseling or have you taken any serious medication? I am asking this seriously because by accounts you seem to exhibit some strange behavior in the light of such a tragedy. In a few years when you grow up a bit I hope you look back at this and question yourself.


I keep coming back to the concept of lack of empathy as a driver for these horrible events.


Do you have a shred of shame or decency?

Real question.

You did see what I was responding to with that post, right? Otherwise, I don't see what assumptions or lack of empathy I've displayed.

 

[SandEagle]

i posted this in the other thread. all of the mass shootings that we had in the past few years, we probably should look into how many of them were on anti-depressants. those things probably don't work as big Pharma wants you to believe.

--------------------------------
i wonder if the shooter was on some kind of SSRI? SSRI side effects can cause mood swings, agitation, and who knows what else kind of behavioral changes.

http://ssristories.com/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC167189/
http://www.naturalnews.com/034433_SSRI_drugs_children_murder.html

 

[irishScott]

There's more than 30,000 deaths by gun per year.

We spend a lot of money and effort fighting the flu.

We could do more to reduce gun deaths without endangering our 2nd Amendment rights.

I'd like to point out that according to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, gun deaths are going down year-to-year, including 2012. This is in accordance with an overall decrease in average crime.

Only ~8500 of those deaths are due to homicide. Much of it due to drugs and gangland violence.
www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime...w-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data

And take it from someone who's been there, back when I was suicidal over a decade ago I was too young to purchase a gun, so I reached for a knife instead. Needless to say I didn't go through with it, but that wasn't due to any fear of the method of death. Someone who wants to commit suicide can do so, removing guns from the equation is like forcing someone to drive a camry instead of a lexus.

Yes, there is more we could do. We could legalize/tax/regulate some drugs and provide more stringent mental health support to help weed out the crazies, but fact is there will always be some who slip through the cracks. We cannot 100% prevent shootings of this variety, nor can we do much to directly reduce them aside from "fixing the economy."

Honestly, given the sheer number of weapons we have floating around (approximately 1 per person), and our diverse populace, we're doing extremely well.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

i posted this in the other thread. all of the mass shootings that we had in the past few years, we probably should look into how many of them were on anti-depressants. those things probably don't work as big Pharma wants you to believe.

--------------------------------
i wonder if the shooter was on some kind of SSRI? SSRI side effects can cause mood swings, agitation, and who knows what else kind of behavioral changes.

http://ssristories.com/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC167189/
http://www.naturalnews.com/034433_SSRI_drugs_children_murder.html

See my post:

Another hilarious concept? That more people need to see psychiatrists and junk like that. Guess what? No other nation falls for such bullshit to the degree we do. Because no other country is on "depression pills" and popping them like addicts like we do. It's called life - and it's filled with stress. If you can't handle life, quit delaying it and just kill yourself now instead of trying to pop pills. Taking pills only delay the inevitable.

http://articles.cnn.com/2007-07-09/...ressure-drugs-psychotropic-drugs?_s=PM:HEALTH

Liberals have yet to answer for such gems as that - probably because most of them are on them

In addition, see my previous point that CT is one of the most regulated states for guns.

What I find hilarious is after a tragedy such as this - 9/11, v-tech, what have you - they (the liberals and their media bias) always want an answer to the problem. As if there is some magical utopia where all tragedies can be prevented It's never "How can we reduce the problem?" - which there are plenty of ways to do, such as eliminate the bullshit that doesn't allow legal citizens to carry in certain areas. But I digress - this is just another example of the lack of logic in liberals. There is no answer to this - there are ways to reduce risk, but you're a complete dumbass if you think there is an answer.

Oh and FYI - The state this tragedy happened in? Yea, of all the states it's one of the most HIGHLY REGULATED states when it comes to gun laws. So all the dumb fucks that think tighter laws are going to fix shit? Yeah, if anything this should be showing you're a complete dumbass.

Aside from government attaching devices to read our thoughts at all times - I don't think that is possible

 

[lotus503]

I'd like to point out that according to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, gun deaths are going down year-to-year, including 2012. This is in accordance with an overall decrease in average crime.

Only ~8500 of those deaths are due to homicide. Much of it due to drugs and gangland violence.
www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime...w-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data

And take it from someone who's been there, back when I was suicidal over a decade ago I was too young to purchase a gun, so I reached for a knife instead. Needless to say I didn't go through with it, but that wasn't due to any fear of the method of death. Someone who wants to commit suicide can do so, removing guns from the equation is like forcing someone to drive a camry instead of a lexus.

Yes, there is more we could do. We could legalize/tax/regulate some drugs and provide more stringent mental health support to help weed out the crazies, but fact is there will always be some who slip through the cracks. We cannot 100% prevent shootings of this variety, nor can we do much to directly reduce them aside from "fixing the economy."

Honestly, given the sheer number of weapons we have floating around (approximately 1 for every 2 people), and our diverse populace, we're doing extremely well.

I think we can reduce these types of rampage killings. There are particular profiles of these types of shooters, similar motivations. But I think the answers are sociological and psychological in nature.

Society ruled by fear, gun culture fear of government and their safety.

Anti gun culture fear of guns and people with them.

America a Big fat culture of pussies, Canada has more guns per citizen than we do yet a fraction of the deaths.

 

[SheHateMe]

Shootings happen daily. As I pointed out, 99.5% of them aren't mass shootings. I didn't see you so active yesterday about the subject. Are you openly admitting you only care about the headline grabbers, the other 99.5% of the dead be damned?


I don't know them. I'm not going to pretend that my heart bleeds for these children, because I'm not a hypocrite who ignores a world full of death and destruction 364 days a year, and then pretends to weep when a child dies. Look around you, there are people in your own town who go hungry, suffer abuse, depression, commit suicide/murder. We gloss over those stories in the paper while sipping our coffee without blinking.


I retract everything I said. My heart, my soul, goes out to all the children suffering all over the world. Cue "Heal the World" by MJ.

I see. You expect me to post all my feelings on this forum.

Excuse me that I am extremely saddened by the violent shooting of innocent children. I am sad when anyone loses their life senselessly. You don't fucking know me, so DON'T tell me that I don't care about other shooting deaths that occur.

Hopefully somebody you love will be violently killed this year, then you can come back and I'll tell you how insignificant they were to the world...since thats how you feel about everyone else. What a fatalistic attitude.

 

[BoberFett]

I don't see where those Militia's where using 30 shot banana clips in their muzzle loading guns?

Good point, I never thought of that.

In fact we should probably limit free speech to things written on parchment with a quill. Its not like those old farts could possibly have imagined the internet, television, or ballpoint pens...

 

[Tom]

No, it's not.

Yes it is widely accepted use of the word clip to refer to a magazine.

 

[OverVolt]

Copycat already tried going into a hospital with a gun and was shot by police, because they were already there/close by. Apparently the hospital is not a gun free zone .

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...l-man-who-wounded-3-alabama-hospital-shooting

#1 Requirement for a mass shooting: gun free zone

So that "when you need help in seconds the police are just minutes away" fully applies.

Hooray media, wonder how many more copycats there will be.

 

[charrison]

http://imgur.com/gallery/P1H2q


Did anyone know about her?

These tragedies expose the best and worst of humanity. I am sure she would not have been the only one to give her life to save her students.

 

[jackstar7]

Hooray media, wonder how many more copycats there will be.

Blaming the media. Good idea.

In fact, you should list out the things that the media should not report to the public. I don't think there's are any rules about that sort of thing, so you should be fine.

 

[shortylickens]

 

[jpeyton]

There's more than 30,000 deaths by gun per year.

According to the CDC, there were 11,100 firearms-related homicides in 2011. I don't count suicides, because if Japan has taught us anything, it's that human ingenuity can find ways to commit suicide in large numbers without the use of firearms.

We spend a lot of money and effort fighting the flu.

Sure we do, but the flu exists entirely as a detriment to society; if the flu ceased to exist tomorrow, it would be to our country's complete benefit. Whereas firearms provide tens of millions of households and responsible gun owners with a form of recreation, sport, and to a lesser degree a way to hunt for meat and defend themselves from harm. The firearms industry supports hundreds of thousands of US based manufacturing, sales and support jobs, while generating billions in revenues, taxes, and salaries.

We could do more to reduce gun deaths without endangering our 2nd Amendment rights.

Both sides have their extremists and moderates. There are people who think all gun laws should be abolished, and some that think all guns should be banned. There are others that think we need sensible rules both to restrict and to allow firearms ownership. But the endgame here is quite literally a tug-of-war where neither side will give up an inch without a fight, because giving up that inch easily means your opponent has the momentum to go past that first step.

 

[Incorruptible]

Good job OP! Using the murder of innocent children to push your agenda of gun control, obama would be proud