Conroe 2.4GHz benchmarked

[JoKeRr]

Is there an ignore button on Anandtech??

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Well, I posted once IN THIS THREAD (page 3 out of 5 for me) that he was out of line. After being banned after a simple response to one of your posts, I just don't care anymore. I pulled my rigs out of the DC farm also for Anandtech(I am still #3 in F@H), as I think other forums deserve my 3k points/day more. I hope this forum get what it deserves. I even got e response from a mod that said " I looked like a good target" but didn't say I really did anything specifically, and no warning. That is not reasonable moderation. I will probably get banned for speaking my mind (and the truth). And I was only responding to the insult YOU GAVE ME. And I get banned ?

The biggest problem with this forum is the inequitable moderation. Ban people like me, and let this jerk keep posting.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, this designit was just banned or at the very least vacationed. And if you look back Mark, I did not insult you in any way shape or form in that thread your speaking of. I made a snappy comment (and that's stretching it) and you know the rest. Lets just forget all that crap please and go on. I can if you can.

Ok, back to Conroe I suppose. In the XS thread, FreeCableGuy found a mobo that is supposed to support conroe. Albatron PX975X. He should have it by this weekend. I guess we will see how it goes. Hopefully, he can get some o/c'ing done.

 

[Markfw]

Telling me my posts are crap is "just a snappy comment" ? ok, whatever. And I see no comment on a designit post like mine that says he got a vacation.

And back to conroe ? I could care less until respected sites review it and you can buy it.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
What is really bugging the crap out of me, more so than designits comments themselves, is that the regulars like Mark and the like aren't giving this guy hell for posting this trash. I think if designit was posting this garbage on the flip side of the fence, they would have been all over him. What's up guys!!!???

I think his comments were so off the wall it should have been a no-brainer he was full of it. and the thread did not need me to act like a MOD (which you seem to handle just fine).....


If anything this thread should have died a LONG time ago after piss poor reviews at XS....Just a bunch of synthetic benches...what XS is extremely good at....

I love reading these so-called reviews....It makes me feel good about my reviews which actually gave ppl some real data...

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Well, I posted once IN THIS THREAD (page 3 out of 5 for me) that he was out of line. After being banned after a simple response to one of your posts, I just don't care anymore. I pulled my rigs out of the DC farm also for Anandtech(I am still #3 in F@H), as I think other forums deserve my 3k points/day more. I hope this forum get what it deserves. I even got e response from a mod that said " I looked like a good target" but didn't say I really did anything specifically, and no warning. That is not reasonable moderation. I will probably get banned for speaking my mind (and the truth). And I was only responding to the insult YOU GAVE ME. And I get banned ?

The biggest problem with this forum is the inequitable moderation. Ban people like me, and let this jerk keep posting.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, this designit was just banned or at the very least vacationed. And if you look back Mark, I did not insult you in any way shape or form in that thread your speaking of. I made a snappy comment (and that's stretching it) and you know the rest. Lets just forget all that crap please and go on. I can if you can.

Ok, back to Conroe I suppose. In the XS thread, FreeCableGuy found a mobo that is supposed to support conroe. Albatron PX975X. He should have it by this weekend. I guess we will see how it goes. Hopefully, he can get some o/c'ing done.

You insulted him and basically ignited the situation...The mods just showed no back bone to take you out at the same time.....

Feel free to PM me, but stop being a baby and enable PMs from me....


When did you get mod status??? you sure seem like the mother hen here all of a sudden...Remind me to stay on your good side!!! :roll:

 

[rogue1979]

So far the benchmarks for Conroe look very exciting.

I wish the hard core AMD Opteron and X2 users would stop bashing the performance of Conroe so far. There is a good chance some of you will be eating a lot of crow

They say we need to wait and see more benchies from different people before they give it some credit?

For gods sake, even if the benchmarks sag a little in gaming and other applications like encoding and the like, you people are forgetting two things:


This is at stock speed 2.4GHz, and it seems to be keeping up with 3.0GHz dual core AMD's so far.

The price is going to knock some AMD prices way down.


So all of us win, just because the Conroe is competitive! And yes, officially for the record I will go out on a limb and say the Conroe is fast, I have seen enough. Faster then an overclocked Opty? Maybe, maybe not.... But the point is Intel has something to compete with AMD now!

 

[Markfw]

rogue1979, I said many times it looks promising, but reserved judgement until they are out, they are reviewed properly, we know the REAL TOTAL cost of ownership (cpu,memory,motherboard) OC'ing, temp's etc.... Way too many variables right now.

You think Intel will release a $300 chip that will blow an FX-60 and their own $1000 955XE out of the water ? somethings wrong with that picture... Reality here folks.

edit: I hope I got the 955XE model number correct, if not you know what I mean

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: rogue1979
So far the benchmarks for Conroe look very exciting.

I wish the hard core AMD Opteron and X2 users would stop bashing the performance of Conroe so far. There is a good chance some of you will be eating a lot of crow

They say we need to wait and see more benchies from different people before they give it some credit?

For gods sake, even if the benchmarks sag a little in gaming and other applications like encoding and the like, you people are forgetting two things:


This is at stock speed 2.4GHz, and it seems to be keeping up with 3.0GHz dual core AMD's so far.

The price is going to knock some AMD prices way down.


So all of us win, just because the Conroe is competitive! And yes, officially for the record I will go out on a limb and say the Conroe is fast, I have seen enough. Faster then an overclocked Opty? Maybe, maybe not.... But the point is Intel has something to compete with AMD now!

I agree but run some decent f*cking test.....I dont run superpi, pcmark05, 3dmock, etc....I like the cinebench, but I want to see some real CAD and encoding test..

So far this tells me little....

Do you know how often INtel's cpus have led in PCmark test??? Like almost always even though they lose (some heavily) in real world apps....Excuse us for being skeptical when the test are so LAME...

AT had some good test, but most would say the test sitaution leads to some skepticism.....

These guys have the chance to run a decent review and they have failed, IMHO.....


Rogue....Come down!!! i wont eat any crow....I am going to get one cause I know the AM2 besides being a dead soccket path almost immediately is bringing no new performance to the table....

I have never doubted that it will be faster then the best AMD chip, or that it will be faster clock to clock....

I just dont get excited easily over previews, crappy synthetic reviews, and knowing I have 4 cores now with some ocing in the future...If I can get these to 2.6ghz this system will be screamer already...

 

[rogue1979]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
rogue1979, I said many times it looks promising, but reserved judgement until they are out, they are reviewed properly, we know the REAL TOTAL cost of ownership (cpu,memory,motherboard) OC'ing, temp's etc.... Way too many variables right now.

You think Intel will release a $300 chip that will blow an FX-60 and their own $1000 955XE out of the water ? somethings wrong with that picture... Reality here folks.

edit: I hope I got the 955XE model number correct, if not you know what I mean

I think your missing my point

A $300 cpu doesn't have to blow away an FX-60. It just has to get reasonably close.
We have seen enough to know the Conroe is at least decently fast. As far as overclocking, well, so far at stock speed it is doing fine!

 

[rogue1979]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: rogue1979
So far the benchmarks for Conroe look very exciting.

I wish the hard core AMD Opteron and X2 users would stop bashing the performance of Conroe so far. There is a good chance some of you will be eating a lot of crow

They say we need to wait and see more benchies from different people before they give it some credit?

For gods sake, even if the benchmarks sag a little in gaming and other applications like encoding and the like, you people are forgetting two things:


This is at stock speed 2.4GHz, and it seems to be keeping up with 3.0GHz dual core AMD's so far.

The price is going to knock some AMD prices way down.


So all of us win, just because the Conroe is competitive! And yes, officially for the record I will go out on a limb and say the Conroe is fast, I have seen enough. Faster then an overclocked Opty? Maybe, maybe not.... But the point is Intel has something to compete with AMD now!

I agree but run some decent f*cking test.....I dont run superpi, pcmark05, 3dmock, etc....I like the cinebench, but I want to see some real CAD and encoding test..

So far this tells me little....

Do you know how often INtel's cpus have led in PCmark test??? Like almost always even though they lose (some heavily) in real world apps....Excuse us for being skeptical when the test are so LAME...

AT had some good test, but most would say the test sitaution leads to some skepticism.....

These guys have the chance to run a decent review and they have failed, IMHO.....


Rogue....Come down!!! i wont eat any crow....I am going to get one cause I know the AM2 besides being a dead soccket path almost immediately is bringing no new performance to the table....

I have never doubted that it will be faster then the best AMD chip, or that it will be faster clock to clock....

I just dont get excited easily over previews, crappy synthetic reviews, and knowing I have 4 cores now with some ocing in the future...If I can get these to 2.6ghz this system will be screamer already...

Duvie, I have seen all your benchmarking on encoding, and I understand that you do heavy cad programs. You put a lot of work into it and it is very informative.

But I don't even burn DVD's or care about any of those benchmarks. Remember, you are a true power user, a very small minority of actual computer users. The majority of people are worried about gaming benchmarks, the dreaded 3Dmark scores and the like.

You are putting a lot of effort into bashing the review just because they don't run a computer like you do?

 

[SahebTech]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
The biggest problem with this forum is the inequitable moderation. Ban people like me, and let this jerk keep posting.

You were banned for insulting other members,
Yet you haven?t learned your lesson.
Be very careful, it can happen again.

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Take note of your own words, designit. Your time out is now infinite.

Good bye.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: SahebTech

Originally posted by: Markfw900
The biggest problem with this forum is the inequitable moderation. Ban people like me, and let this jerk keep posting.

You were banned for insulting other members,
Yet you haven?t learned your lesson.
Be very careful, it can happen again.

Lets see your first post, and All I did was speak an opinion about the moderation quality here... A mod in disquise ? I insulted no one, but gave an opinion on the moderation quality here. If thats bannable, this this formum deserves all it gets. I offer ill will toward no person with this, just the quality of the mods here, and I have proof. If you are a mod and ban me again, you prove to all exactly how bad it is.

And as to the offense, I was DEFENDING being insulted, by saying "thats not nice" in other words. So now self defense is also bannable without even using a cuss word ? Keep it up, you are proving my point exactly.

 

[SahebTech]

and let this jerk keep posting

Have a nice day

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: SahebTech

Originally posted by: Markfw900
The biggest problem with this forum is the inequitable moderation. Ban people like me, and let this jerk keep posting.

You were banned for insulting other members,
Yet you haven?t learned your lesson.
Be very careful, it can happen again.

sniff sniff..............smells like a mod!!!!!

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: SahebTech

and let this jerk keep posting

Have a nice day

Designit ? You already banned him, so we agree and you are going to ban me for that ? (mr moderator in sheeps clothing) In case nobody could figure out that is who I was referring to, I edited the first post where I said that to explicitly say so.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: SahebTech

and let this jerk keep posting

Have a nice day

He was referring to Designit, which the inconsistent mods let post drivel, insults and fanned the flames for days before they did anything....

Just be consistent.....

Edit: sorry for hijacking the thread, but it doesn't appear that anything of any value has been done lately anyways............

 

[SahebTech]

He was referring to Designit

Exactly.
AT will look into all posts (here) and rest assured that everyone is viewed equally. I mean everyone.
Next post "topic" ?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: SahebTech

He was referring to Designit

Exactly.
AT will look into all posts (here) and rest assured that everyone is viewed equally. I mean everyone.
Next post "topic" ?

So you are a mod using a fake username ? Why couldn;t you say "Anandtech Moderator" like usual. And as to the posts, you will see that all I did was agree that he was out of line (see middle of thread).

The rest of my comments were directed at the rediculous (IMO) banning of myself for saying that it was "not nice" to call my posts crap by another member (keysplayer). And this thread is an exact example. Someone admits to creating flames, insults people, and thread-hijacking and everything else that is bad, but it continues for days ! But I get banned for nothing in minutes, since Avalon tells the mods he doesn't like me !

I only tell the truth, and the threads are here to view. I expect to get banned again for telling the truth, or someone may twist the truth, but the real looser is the Anandtech forums. Better mods are needed, if they can't do it, admit it, but don't ban members for posting the truth.

Before you ban somebody, you need to read the threads. Have a moderator that "hangs out" in a forum and knows whats really going on. We do. There is mention of "intelia" and other references. We all know that was one of the worst Intel trolls around. And designit appears to be an AMD troll (new, but bad) around here. Jumping to conclusions is BAD.

To all else here, I apologise for an inadvertant thread-hijack, but SahebTech started this variant by trying to defend bad moderation, and threatening to ban me again.

Conroe does appear to have promise.

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[hans007]

Originally posted by: nate39
just out of curiosity, what is everyone's take on this blog?

http://sharikou.blogspot.com/

that blog has like 0 credibility.


that guy actually posts on the AMD and INTC yahoo finance stock messageboards.


he basically gets flamed constantly for pretending he is a phd and just randomly making up statements and benchmarks.

he basically is some crazed AMD stock holder. i mean i have in the past year owned AMD stock, but even I though that guy was insane.

 

[burney]

Mark if you a problem with the mods start a different thread..u keep on crying on the same issue again and again..do not like AT then do not come to the forums...simple as that..this thread is to discuss about conroe..now when we are finally done with designit we should be able to concentrate on the topic.

Conroe looks really goods, I hope they are able find a decent mobo and get some benchmarks

 

[Keysplayr]

Hopefully this weekend, Freecableguy over at XS should have that Albatron 975X board..

 

[DrMrLordX]

Personally I was put off by both Mark's and dmen's bans. They didn't really help much (in my opinion) on account of the fact that both users have contributed to these forums on their own. The two together, however, seem to clash.

Designit had nothing to offer the forum outside of trolling and other nonsense. A ban was appropriate.

All that aside, mods will be mods. It's easy for people who aren't involved in the threads personally to miss who initially instigated flame wars. It's also easy for them to have opinions different from many of the forum regulators. I still think it's better than a Slashdot-style moderation system that is constantly undermined by that site's admins and editors. Here, people who post nonsensical and inflammatory content are dealt with on a case-by-case basis which is a good thing. The only drawback I can see is that Anandtech's forums may have outgrown its moderation system.

I'd miss contributors like Mark if we lost them even if he gets pretty stirred up sometimes.

Nevertheless, thanks mods for wiping out designit. He couldn't even make jokes work. What a llama.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: furballi
Benchmarks are fun, but they don't predict real world performance. My 3100 Sempron does 38 seconds at 2.44GHz. I'm sure Conroe isn't 70% faster with all my applications. Today's bottlenecks are the RAMs, HDDs, and optical drives.

Folks always use benchmarks to measure PC performance because there is very little difference speed wise among today's PCs, especially with the majority of productivity applications.

your real funny. My X2 clocked at 400mhz faster then your sempron will run laps around your computer, and this conroe will probably laugh at how slow my x2 is running. Please use some common sense when writting statements like that. I would expect a more then 70% gain in performance then your sempron if you were on the conroe.

Also bottlenecks? yes there are bottlenecks, but thats why DDR2 was introduced. More bandwith less bottleneck. Hard drive bottle neck? hell go with a raid5 SCSI SATA setup. Either way, ur comparing a toyota corolla to a fully race modded Nissan Skyline.

And as someone above me stated, 21 sec on super pi 1m is just incredible expecially at 2.4ghz. My system at 2.8 gives me exactly 30 sec, a whole 9 sec cut down is just straight out amazing. >.<

*looks like intel is going to take first place again, i think AMD should be getting a bit worried*

 

[TanisHalfElven]

yay conroe looks awesome. all i'm worried about is the expense. anhd having to buying INTEL mobo's any idea howe much this 2.4 GHz conroe is gonna cost ?

i wonder if conroe might force AMD to release k10 sooner rather than later and forget all aobut that k8L thing.

 

[Keysplayr]

The 2.4 should be $319.00. No idea what the mobo's will cost, but a guess would be below 200.00 bucks for a full featured board.