Conroe 2.4GHz benchmarked

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dmens

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Figures. With the platform specs given by the AT article and the spread of benchmarks run, there's no outlying factors that can cause a significant performance delta on any specific workload profile. But hey, suit yourself. Just don't try to pass off ignorance/paranoia as caution, LOL.
 

Bobthelost

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Originally posted by: IntelUser2000
Are we taking into account Intel and AMD's different measurement of TDP? Ie AMD being the absoulte upper limit and the Intel only being something like 80% (number is rough estimate, but in real terms of power closer to reality, just misleading in comparison)

For Pentium 4/D's TDP is LOWER than actual power, but for Pentium M, it has been shown that TDP is equal or higher than actual power. Since Conroe can run on heatpipe with no fan, I think it would be similar to Pentium M at least.

So for desktop use the desktop TDP is an underestimate then? Or at least in comparison to the TDP calculation used by AMD. I might feel more guilt at trying to hijack this thread if it were serving a useful purpose, but as it is...

I think what he said was, P4/D TDP is an underestimate and the Pentium M is an overestimate. As for a thread hijack, I don't get the joke.

Well untill there's any more benchmarks found for conroe i still wont' feel too guilty about diverting this thread slightly

Reason i'm (still) harping on about this is that googer (i think) said it had been shown to be rubbish, ie that the Intel and AMD TDP were directly comparable. So either it's not a universally known truth or we're just a bit slow on picking this one up.
 

Keysplayr

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In my case, this "gamble" was far from a long shot. I did not have an X2 4400 like you do which is very nice. I had a P4 3.0E socket 478 rig. I think it's a safe bet that a 2.4GHz Conroe rig just might be a worthy upgrade for me. Like I keep saying Mark. Everyone is different. You have to remember that not everyone is just like you. There is a big world out there.

About salaries. I am a real estate appraiser and a network administrator/consultant. I probably make your annual salary in 6 months time. You told me what you make per year so I can say this with accuracy cause I just got done doing my taxes two weeks ago. This is pretty much the last I want to hear about how much money you make. It means nothing. It's what is in your head that I may or may not have any use for.

As far as having nothing but my Dothan lappy to use. Untrue. I have a P4 2.66 "quiet" rig in my small music studio setup in my basement, My wife has her own PC as does my son, besides my server. I guess I got tired of having 4 PC's on my KVM. Decided it was overkill, so I got rid of most of my desktop rigs. Gave one to my sister, that Dual Athlon MP rig and she loves it. Now I just use my lappy for work. I still have more than what I need. So, I can wait.
 

BrownTown

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yeah, just reading some peoples posts here still thinking that Conroes numbers are made up by Intel, they don't seem to realise that like 10+ peple on overclocking websites have Conroes or Meroms, and all their benchmarks synch up with what Intel said. Conroes performance cannot realalisticaly be disputed at this point. The only thing you can really dispute is the effect of all these benchmarks on whatever you want to use it for. Having said that, looking at SuperPi scores it not what you want to be doing, jsut look at one of the 50 other benchmarks, SuperPi, especially 1M is VERY VERY fast on Conroe, but most other benchmarks don't show nearly that improvement of SuperPi. (In case you don't realise, the stock 3G Conroe is putting out times that handily beat the best times ever for any AMD processor, even under LN2)
 

JoKeRr

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I had no idea that there was going to be a 2.13ghz conroe with 4mb of L2 cache, well at least it wasn't listed in the initial road map. I thought there was only going to be 4 models: 2.66ghz, and 2.4ghz with 4mb L2, 2.13ghz and 1.83ghz with 2mb L2. Hm, if there's really such a 2.13ghz with 4mb L2, it'll be pretty sweet and definitely going to be cheaper than 2.4ghz chip. Might just fit with my wallet size.
 

TekDemon

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So...I'm gonna ressurect this long dead thread with a couple of things:
1) Intel does not plan on losing money launching Conroe. If you look at their financial projections for the whole year you'll see that they're basically betting the bank on Conroe raking in bazillions of dollars later in the year to offset horrible financial performance right now due to a huge pileup of old Pentium 4 parts that they're having trouble getting people to buy.

2) Conroe is obviously going to be launching as soon as Intel can get it out the door (in any useful amount) because Intel is getting a beatdown from Wall Street right now. So enough conspiracy theories about how it's really not coming until some crazy later date-if intel screws this up they have a lot more to worry about than fanboys being disappointed-they've basically told wall street that it's all gonna be OK again once Conroe drops later this year, so if Conroe doesn't drop later this year Intel stock is going to be down the toilet even more than it is right now...all the way into the sewers.

OK that's really it. It's kinda sad that this thread devolved into what it did though but hopefully from here on out we can all be more civil.

So...anyways I think Intel is going to use their lower costs of manufacturing to price down the Conroe and bet on Conroe being able to surpass AMD performance by so much that they can sell a ton of mid-range Conroe parts and still get super high prices for the fastest Conroes out there. And I'm sure the fact that they'll be selling a ton of chipsets to go with these won't hurt the bottom line either.

Only real problem intel has now as a company is how to get rid of the obscene amount of Pentium 4's they have sitting around (there's a reason why you're seeing $125 fire sale prices on dual-core P4's and why Dell has had to cut prices to the bare bone just to keep people buying). Once they've managed to find enough people to take those P4's off their hands and clear space out of their warehouses they're golden.
 

pcoffman

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Where Intel is really hurting is in the x86 server space. The desktop space is less important. Profit margins are not as juicy, and its a shrinking market. Where Intel has its work cut out for it, is in regaining market share from Opterons.

Don't get me wrong. The desktop is also important, but it's less important.

Intel has lost so much market share in the x86 server space that not even the strong financial performance of its notebook parts and Mobility Group was able to compensate.
 
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