Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Duvie
It is great score but those morons at XS only live by SuperPi...Fugger is only interested in wolrd records and less actual real world apps...
This great score could have more to do with the new cache and buffers then actual IPC speed...That is well above the 20% conroe was leading in real world apps that often dont count on the cache as much....
If you look at it the P4's and the netburst had done quite well in superpi over the last few years and we know where ther were landing in real world apps....
So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW
Exactly !
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Duvie
It is great score but those morons at XS only live by SuperPi...Fugger is only interested in wolrd records and less actual real world apps...
This great score could have more to do with the new cache and buffers then actual IPC speed...That is well above the 20% conroe was leading in real world apps that often dont count on the cache as much....
If you look at it the P4's and the netburst had done quite well in superpi over the last few years and we know where ther were landing in real world apps....
So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW
Exactly !
do you two follow each other around QFTing each other? Live together or something?
Cute posting habits aside, while it is a freakishly good score, as everyone points out it's not really interesting for much more than it is, a spi 1m score
On the speeds & prices, dayum they are looking good, especially when you look at what AMD expects you to pay for X2s right now
Hopefully we'll see some X2 prices getting slashed when Conroe launches...
Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Duvie
how comes it only shows the cache at 2mb??? I know Fugger has an ES sample....
Good question. Everyone over at XS is saying 2x2MB??
Originally posted by: Faikius
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Duvie
It is great score but those morons at XS only live by SuperPi...Fugger is only interested in wolrd records and less actual real world apps...
This great score could have more to do with the new cache and buffers then actual IPC speed...That is well above the 20% conroe was leading in real world apps that often dont count on the cache as much....
If you look at it the P4's and the netburst had done quite well in superpi over the last few years and we know where ther were landing in real world apps....
So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW
Exactly !
do you two follow each other around QFTing each other? Live together or something?
Cute posting habits aside, while it is a freakishly good score, as everyone points out it's not really interesting for much more than it is, a spi 1m score
On the speeds & prices, dayum they are looking good, especially when you look at what AMD expects you to pay for X2s right now
Hopefully we'll see some X2 prices getting slashed when Conroe launches...
It's Captain AMD and his sidekick Hypertransport Boy to the rescue!
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Duvie
how comes it only shows the cache at 2mb??? I know Fugger has an ES sample....
Good question. Everyone over at XS is saying 2x2MB??
That?s weird I thought Conroe was supposed to have a unified L2 cache design. As in 4MB shared L2 cache which is at the disposal for each of the cores, and not individually assigned like the Presler?s and Smithfield?s with their separate dies for cores design.
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Duvie
how comes it only shows the cache at 2mb??? I know Fugger has an ES sample....
Good question. Everyone over at XS is saying 2x2MB??
That?s weird I thought Conroe was supposed to have a unified L2 cache design. As in 4MB shared L2 cache which is at the disposal for each of the cores, and not individually assigned like the Presler?s and Smithfield?s with their separate dies for cores design.
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1023_large_conroe_pricing.jpg
sets out the cache amounts...
Originally posted by: RichUK
Thanks, yeah i thought so, Conroe does use a unified design, as it states in that graph. I wonder why people at XS are saying 2X2MB
Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Hard Ball
SuperPI 2M with 4MB of L2 of the conroe is bringing similarly meaningless result. I was hoping that xtremesystems would give us something a little more meaty, but it's looking like another uninformed website doing some inconsequential bench that will not really tell us anything.
Woah. Give the guys over there a break. Benchmarking is what they like to do so of course those are the first results you're going to see. Should they call you uninformed because you don't like to bench? Are the things they use their computers for inconsequential because YOU don't find them useful? Different strokes for different folks.
Just be patient. I'm sure they'll run more benchmarks than just SuperPi. Sheesh.
Originally posted by: Hard Ball
Still waiting!
Where are the scores? It takes them more than 12hrs or produces a PCMark or Science Mark score. Makes you begin to wonder what level of competence that xtremesys is exhibiting.
Come on, we are all waiting, what in the world is holding it up; are the testers there mezmerized by their own navel gazing again?
Originally posted by: Duvie
So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW
Originally posted by: mamisano
My question is, why would Intel let the ES chips out into the public? And if they didn't, why dont they go after who sold them or who now has them? Can't see Fugger going to Intel and saying "I have one of your ES chips and it wont work in my board... please help".... unless Intel is trying to seed the community and hype a product that is still MONTHS away.
Yeah, that's correct. And if you look at the SuperPi benchmark shot, you see the program requires 8MB of memory for the caclulation of pi to 1 million decimal places.Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Doesn't the M in SuperPi tests stand for "million decimal places" and not MegaBytes?
Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: Duvie
So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW
Damnit Duvie, you know what kind of image I have in my head now? :|
I look forward to faster products because it drives down pricing... generally.
BTW, there was a Conroe ES for sale on eBay already, from a supposed legit seller in Malaysia that often sells ES chips.
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Doesn't the M in SuperPi tests stand for "million decimal places" and not MegaBytes?
1M = 1 million decimal places and not 1 Megabyte?
4M = 4 million decimal places and not 4 MB?
etc.
etc.
???
I am actually asking this question, not stating it as any factoid. Some folks who seemed knowledgable over at XS mentioned this in correcting others who though M stood for Megabyte in SuperPi.