Conroe 2.4GHz benchmarked

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n19htmare

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Fugger never got his to post so I dont think even He knows what he's gots.

As far as victors chip, its a 2.4G with 4MB of L2
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Duvie
It is great score but those morons at XS only live by SuperPi...Fugger is only interested in wolrd records and less actual real world apps...

This great score could have more to do with the new cache and buffers then actual IPC speed...That is well above the 20% conroe was leading in real world apps that often dont count on the cache as much....

If you look at it the P4's and the netburst had done quite well in superpi over the last few years and we know where ther were landing in real world apps....

So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW

Exactly !

do you two follow each other around QFTing each other? Live together or something?

Cute posting habits aside, while it is a freakishly good score, as everyone points out it's not really interesting for much more than it is, a spi 1m score

On the speeds & prices, dayum they are looking good, especially when you look at what AMD expects you to pay for X2s right now

Hopefully we'll see some X2 prices getting slashed when Conroe launches...
 

Faikius

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Duvie
It is great score but those morons at XS only live by SuperPi...Fugger is only interested in wolrd records and less actual real world apps...

This great score could have more to do with the new cache and buffers then actual IPC speed...That is well above the 20% conroe was leading in real world apps that often dont count on the cache as much....

If you look at it the P4's and the netburst had done quite well in superpi over the last few years and we know where ther were landing in real world apps....

So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW

Exactly !

do you two follow each other around QFTing each other? Live together or something?

Cute posting habits aside, while it is a freakishly good score, as everyone points out it's not really interesting for much more than it is, a spi 1m score

On the speeds & prices, dayum they are looking good, especially when you look at what AMD expects you to pay for X2s right now

Hopefully we'll see some X2 prices getting slashed when Conroe launches...

It's Captain AMD and his sidekick Hypertransport Boy to the rescue!

 

RichUK

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Feb 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Duvie

how comes it only shows the cache at 2mb??? I know Fugger has an ES sample....

Good question. Everyone over at XS is saying 2x2MB??

That?s weird I thought Conroe was supposed to have a unified L2 cache design. As in 4MB shared L2 cache which is at the disposal for each of the cores, and not individually assigned like the Presler?s and Smithfield?s with their separate dies for cores design.
 

dug777

Lifer
Oct 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: Faikius
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: Duvie
It is great score but those morons at XS only live by SuperPi...Fugger is only interested in wolrd records and less actual real world apps...

This great score could have more to do with the new cache and buffers then actual IPC speed...That is well above the 20% conroe was leading in real world apps that often dont count on the cache as much....

If you look at it the P4's and the netburst had done quite well in superpi over the last few years and we know where ther were landing in real world apps....

So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW

Exactly !

do you two follow each other around QFTing each other? Live together or something?

Cute posting habits aside, while it is a freakishly good score, as everyone points out it's not really interesting for much more than it is, a spi 1m score

On the speeds & prices, dayum they are looking good, especially when you look at what AMD expects you to pay for X2s right now

Hopefully we'll see some X2 prices getting slashed when Conroe launches...

It's Captain AMD and his sidekick Hypertransport Boy to the rescue!

:laugh:
 

dug777

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Oct 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Duvie

how comes it only shows the cache at 2mb??? I know Fugger has an ES sample....

Good question. Everyone over at XS is saying 2x2MB??

That?s weird I thought Conroe was supposed to have a unified L2 cache design. As in 4MB shared L2 cache which is at the disposal for each of the cores, and not individually assigned like the Presler?s and Smithfield?s with their separate dies for cores design.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1023_large_conroe_pricing.jpg

sets out the cache amounts...
 

RichUK

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Feb 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Duvie

how comes it only shows the cache at 2mb??? I know Fugger has an ES sample....

Good question. Everyone over at XS is saying 2x2MB??

That?s weird I thought Conroe was supposed to have a unified L2 cache design. As in 4MB shared L2 cache which is at the disposal for each of the cores, and not individually assigned like the Presler?s and Smithfield?s with their separate dies for cores design.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1023_large_conroe_pricing.jpg

sets out the cache amounts...

Thanks, yeah i thought so, Conroe does use a unified design, as it states in that graph. I wonder why people at XS are saying 2X2MB
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: RichUK

Thanks, yeah i thought so, Conroe does use a unified design, as it states in that graph. I wonder why people at XS are saying 2X2MB

It might just be me misquoting them.
 

Hard Ball

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Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Hard Ball

SuperPI 2M with 4MB of L2 of the conroe is bringing similarly meaningless result. I was hoping that xtremesystems would give us something a little more meaty, but it's looking like another uninformed website doing some inconsequential bench that will not really tell us anything.

Woah. Give the guys over there a break. Benchmarking is what they like to do so of course those are the first results you're going to see. Should they call you uninformed because you don't like to bench? Are the things they use their computers for inconsequential because YOU don't find them useful? Different strokes for different folks.

Just be patient. I'm sure they'll run more benchmarks than just SuperPi. Sheesh.


Still waiting!

Where are the scores? It takes them more than 12hrs or produces a PCMark or Science Mark score. Makes you begin to wonder what level of competence that xtremesys is exhibiting.

Come on, we are all waiting, what in the world is holding it up; are the testers there mezmerized by their own navel gazing again?
 

Markfw

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Well, not all of us are waiting. When it comes out, and is reviewed by 5 sites, then I will believe the results. Till then, its all BS.
 

BrownTown

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well, no its not BS, that is the score that Conroe got in SuperPi 1M, now you can call the benchmark worthless, but if you're saying the score was made up then you are wrong.
 

coldpower27

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No Conroe 4MB and Allendale 2MB do has unified cache designs...

It's Presler that has the old 2x2MB apporach.
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: Hard Ball

Still waiting!

Where are the scores? It takes them more than 12hrs or produces a PCMark or Science Mark score. Makes you begin to wonder what level of competence that xtremesys is exhibiting.

Come on, we are all waiting, what in the world is holding it up; are the testers there mezmerized by their own navel gazing again?

They're testing a chip that isn't due out for another 5-6 months on a motherboard that doesn't really support it yet. It sounds like they're working with Intel and the board manufacturers to find a board and bios that will work with their engineering samples. It's not plug and play. Have a little patience.

Your wondering about their level of competence is like wondering if the Nascar pit crews know anything about cars.
 

BrownTown

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umm, people have these annyoign things called "lives", and maybe they have to do stuff like work and spend time with wife and kids in addition too testing CPUs. Unfortunately these "lives" make it hard to get much benchmarking done, especially when you're using an untested board and beta BIOS. IF a problem has arien with the BIOS like he thinks, then all benchmarks would be meaningless anyways. Wait for the weekend for these people to have some time off to really get to work on Conroe.
 

mamisano

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My question is, why would Intel let the ES chips out into the public? And if they didn't, why dont they go after who sold them or who now has them? Can't see Fugger going to Intel and saying "I have one of your ES chips and it wont work in my board... please help".... unless Intel is trying to seed the community and hype a product that is still MONTHS away.
 

the Chase

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It is curious. It seems like they are working with either Asus or Intel or both to try to get it up and running. I don't think they would mention Asus like they have if Intel didn't approve of this as Asus would have some explaining to do. I think Intel woke up finally and realized how much market share AMD is starting to take and they want to tell people to wait- don't buy AM2- look what we have coming and it's going to blow your socks off!
 

Furen

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FUGGER has always been Intel's pet overclocker so I'm sure anything he is doing is officially sanctioned, not sure about victor, though. Victor did say that the 32M Pi score was pretty bad and that he's looking into it...
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: Duvie
So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW

Damnit Duvie, you know what kind of image I have in my head now? :|

I look forward to faster products because it drives down pricing... generally.

BTW, there was a Conroe ES for sale on eBay already, from a supposed legit seller in Malaysia that often sells ES chips.
 

Keysplayr

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Doesn't the M in SuperPi tests stand for "million decimal places" and not MegaBytes?

1M = 1 million decimal places and not 1 Megabyte?

4M = 4 million decimal places and not 4 MB?

etc.

etc.

???

I am actually asking this question, not stating it as any factoid. Some folks who seemed knowledgable over at XS mentioned this in correcting others who though M stood for Megabyte in SuperPi.

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: mamisano
My question is, why would Intel let the ES chips out into the public? And if they didn't, why dont they go after who sold them or who now has them? Can't see Fugger going to Intel and saying "I have one of your ES chips and it wont work in my board... please help".... unless Intel is trying to seed the community and hype a product that is still MONTHS away.

Bingo!!!

 

Accord99

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Doesn't the M in SuperPi tests stand for "million decimal places" and not MegaBytes?
Yeah, that's correct. And if you look at the SuperPi benchmark shot, you see the program requires 8MB of memory for the caclulation of pi to 1 million decimal places.

 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: Duvie
So in conclusion once those guys stop hand jacking themselves over worthless benches and start running real world apps ...LET ME KNOW

Damnit Duvie, you know what kind of image I have in my head now? :|

I look forward to faster products because it drives down pricing... generally.

BTW, there was a Conroe ES for sale on eBay already, from a supposed legit seller in Malaysia that often sells ES chips.



HMMMMM...They (intel) have a packaging plant in Malaysia......Sounds like a little back door action...and I dont mean bare back mountain style....
 

Hard Ball

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Doesn't the M in SuperPi tests stand for "million decimal places" and not MegaBytes?

1M = 1 million decimal places and not 1 Megabyte?

4M = 4 million decimal places and not 4 MB?

etc.

etc.

???

I am actually asking this question, not stating it as any factoid. Some folks who seemed knowledgable over at XS mentioned this in correcting others who though M stood for Megabyte in SuperPi.

try this:
>>> import sys, math
>>> dir(math)
['__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', 'acos', 'asin', 'atan', 'atan2', 'ceil', 'cos', 'cosh', 'degrees', 'e', 'exp', 'fabs', 'floor', 'fmod', 'frexp', 'hypot', 'ldexp', 'log', 'log10', 'modf', 'pi', 'pow', 'radians', 'sin', 'sinh', 'sqrt', 'tan', 'tanh']
>>> pi = 48 * math.atan(1/float(49)) + 128 * math.atan(1/float(57)) - 20 * math.atan (1/float(239)) + 48 * math.atan(1/float(110443))
 

kknd1967

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Here are more tests from victorwang

Super Pi 32M -> 23m 30.25s
Super Pi 08M -> 04m 44.86s
Super Pi 04M -> 02m 07.218s
Super Pi 01M -> 00m 21.422s

3DMark05 CPU Test -> 3008

sisoft:
cpu alu=28k
multimedia=144k
mem=4k8
cache=55k

VictorWang's Blog
 
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