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I love debate and as such welcome opposing viewpoints to debate with (because without opposing viewpoints, there is no debate). What I don't welcome are pompous jackasses who put words in peoples' mouths, feign victim complexes, and otherwise make bullshit excuses for why they won't provide a supporting argument for their viewpoint, except to pretend that they are right and superior solely because of their partisan political identity, like that's even an argument.

Don't you love how the chickenshits can never actually support their arguments with anything resembling coherent objective facts, but get pissed when called on it? They think all anyone is ever doing is spouting bullshit because that's all they're doing, but they think their fucked up warped view of reality is more reality than others'.
 
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ElFenix

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Kill, no. Hope that Trump supporters sick and die of COVID-19? Take your pick, there are a bunch of posts like that now.

Remember, I'm here in the P&N forum against my will... the moderators keep moving stuff from ATOT over here to die.
No one is forcing you to come back into this thread but you've done so several times. Strange.
 
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HomerJS

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My question for @mistercrabby, have you asked yourself why is your response to any post so predictable? You expected left leaning people to defend the person in the OP. Nobody has. As for myself I don't defend hateful or stupid. You however, if hateful, racist, stupid, incompetent comes from the right you will defended it at all costs or will do nothing but elicit your silence.
 
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JEDIYoda

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Uh oh, snowflakes, here’s a reminder that what you say and do, even in online la-la land, can come back to bite you...


Michael James Coudrey
@MichaelCoudrey
“The Harvard graduate who threatened to “slit the throats and watch them bleed out” to anyone who says “all lives matter” to her is blaming Trump supporters for ruining her life.

Pretty sure she ruined her own life by being a psychopath!”





Hope the hateful, violent tripe spewed or supported by some of you here doesn’t come to light in your real lives. Or maybe I don’t...

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ahh!!! defending her right to freedom of speech! How noble of you!
There is nothing wrong with being held accountable for what you say!
 

JEDIYoda

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There is, but it's filled with people who would probably support killing Trump supporters. They've pretty much convinced themselves that he's the antichrist in there.

Of course, one of the moderators will probably move this thread to P&N anyway.
awww, Your little Trump supporter feelings get hurt???
 

interchange

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I disagree. Free speech and voluntary association are 2-way streets, if you will, meaning that the social (non-govt) consequences of a person's speech are in fact someone else's speech. So what is absurd is the use of euphemisms like "cancel culture" and "social media mob mentality" as a backdoor means of silencing free speech.

My reading of what @Starbuck1975 posted was that he didn't agree with the choice to fire her but expressed no wish to restrict the employer from choosing to do so. That is how I feel, and that has absolutely nothing to do with free speech. Ideally, our comments here are part of society working out its norms through speech which is facilitated by the freedom to choose.
 

JEDIYoda

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I really try not to waste my time in here. One sided arguments with hard left liberals who refuse to listen to opposing viewpoints isn't very productive.

Have fun with your Trump hate fest while it lasts, guys!
Opposing viewpoints need to have substance! You mean to tell me that there is any substance that comes with defending Trump?
 

Vic

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My reading of what @Starbuck1975 posted was that he didn't agree with the choice to fire her but expressed no wish to restrict the employer from choosing to do so. That is how I feel, and that has absolutely nothing to do with free speech. Ideally, our comments here are part of society working out its norms through speech which is facilitated by the freedom to choose.

Perhaps I misinterpreted his post then. However, my own opinion is that, besides the free speech and voluntary association rights of the 2 parties directly involved in this exchange (employee and employer), there is also the free speech rights of the public at large. And if the employer chooses to listen to public opinion when making their decision, that is their right as well.
And.. it is my experience that derogatory terms like 'cancel culture and social media mob mentality' are usually employed to suppress or belittle public opinion that that person disagrees with.
For the record, I don't engage in 'cancel culture.' I deleted my twitter account a long time ago, and my FB is used solely for communicating with friends and relatives. But if I don't like a business' practices, I don't do business with them. Some people like to call that cancel culture, I call it consumer choice.
 

pauldun170

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Lets take a step back and look at the big picture.

FoxNews watchers were upset over what some nobody college kid said on TikTok, . A service used to create short dance, lip-sync, comedy and talent videos.
It was taken so seriously that they said Ann Coulture 3 times in a mirror and now we are graced with "commentary" from other foxnews idiots.

Meanwhile, adults are paying attention to grownup type issues.
 
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Vic

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Lets take a step back and look at the big picture.

FoxNews watchers were upset over what some nobody college kid said on TikTok, . A service used to create short dance, lip-sync, comedy and talent videos.
It was taken so seriously that they said Ann Coulture 3 times in a mirror and now we are graced with "commentary" from other foxnews idiots.

Meanwhile, adults are paying attention to grownup type issues.
IMO, they're projecting their outrage from when similar occurrences happened to right-wingers (there is at least one poster in here who was outraged over Google McGuire's firing), and expecting liberals to be outraged as they would be.

On an adult side note: people should delete TikTok.
 

cytg111

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Uh oh, snowflakes, here’s a reminder that what you say and do, even in online la-la land, can come back to bite you...


Michael James Coudrey
@MichaelCoudrey
“The Harvard graduate who threatened to “slit the throats and watch them bleed out” to anyone who says “all lives matter” to her is blaming Trump supporters for ruining her life.

Pretty sure she ruined her own life by being a psychopath!”





Hope the hateful, violent tripe spewed or supported by some of you here doesn’t come to light in your real lives. Or maybe I don’t...

Moved from OT.
admin allisolm

You know you are a deprived sad excuse of a person when you need someone else's misfortune to bring yourself joy.

Thats a "failed" from me.
 

mistercrabby

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I'll take the bait. What makes you so smart?...

I only look smart by comparison of so many of the mouth breathers here like you.

All I can gather from your slobbering question is that you are supporting the person in the tik tok video who advocates slitting throats and laughing at their death rows as they bleed out. Pretty sad. Run all that by your mom and see if she thinks you’re moral compass is spinning randomly.

Maybe you can friend up tik tok girl and help with her job search. But then, you’d need to know how to find one.
 

GodisanAtheist

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This topic is really confusing.

If you threaten people with violence or generally behave in an antisocial way, don't be surprised if other people and organizations no longer want to associate with you.

Where is the catch?
 

cytg111

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This topic is really confusing.

If you threaten people with violence or generally behave in an antisocial way, don't be surprised if other people and organizations no longer want to associate with you.

Where is the catch?

Crabs dude asserts that anyone not in a maga hat supports stupid girl and therefor must die. Something like that. Its confusing, who knows the ins and outs of an alt rightie.
 
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Vic

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I only look smart by comparison of so many of the mouth breathers here like you.

All I can gather from your slobbering question is that you are supporting the person in the tik tok video who advocates slitting throats and laughing at their death rows as they bleed out. Pretty sad. Run all that by your mom and see if she thinks you’re moral compass is spinning randomly.

Maybe you can friend up tik tok girl and help with her job search. But then, you’d need to know how to find one.

You realize that you're doing what I said you were doing and are now just making a fool of yourself, right?

Meanwhile, I suggest you read back through the thread where I didn't support the girl, did support her employer's right to fire her, and even encouraged people to delete TikTok. I'd encourage you to ask to ask your mom if telling lies aligns her moral compass, but judging from your actions, I'd say neither of you even have one.

BTW, I have a great job, not that it's any of your business.
 

mistercrabby

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You know you are a deprived sad excuse of a person when you need someone else's misfortune to bring yourself joy.

Thats a "failed" from me.

See response above... you must also be in love with tik tok girl and be ok with slitting the throats of people you disagree with. Hope your boss doesn’t find out. Why don’t you take the advice I gave to Vic...
 

mistercrabby

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You realize that you're doing what I said you were doing and are now just making a fool of yourself, right?

Meanwhile, I suggest you read back through the thread where I didn't support the girl, did support her employer's right to fire her, and even encouraged people to delete TikTok. I'd encourage you to ask to ask your mom if telling lies aligns her moral compass, but judging from your actions, I'd say neither of you even have one.

BTW, I have a great job, not that it's any of your business.

Forked tongue. Hope you don’t get doxed. )-:
 

cytg111

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See response above... you must also be in love with tik tok girl and be ok with slitting the throats of people you disagree with. Hope your boss doesn’t find out. Why don’t you take the advice I gave to Vic...
Thanks for taking the bait, hook line etc.
*see* ? Like I said.
 
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