Conservative Abbot wins Australia

[Anarchist420]

You didn't just say temperatures in different locations all over the world can't be measured and recorded did you?

No. What I said was that it is impossible to know the exact global average of every square inch of land, all the air space, for every second etc., etc going back to some arbitrary time to the present. Even if the global average temperature could be calculated with enough precision (it can't be, but I'm just throwing this out there) for the past ten years (which is itself very arbitrary), then what amount of temp increase/year would indicate global warming? .01 degrees F per year? .1 degrees increase F per year? .2 degrees farenheit per year?

I mean, it's pretty nebulous to say there is global warming.

I also wonder if the govt caused hurricane sandy... if they did, then they surely can't be trusted to help the environment. Look at how bad the response was to it; the govt doesn't care about the environment. All of the bombs set off and missiles launched by the U.S. govt cause a little bit of pollution don't they?

Some people always say the clean air act of 1990 reduced acid rain by 25%. Isn't the 25% figure based upon forecasts that are usually not accurate? How in the hell can they say it was worthwhile for all or even for the majority?
Suppose the market reduced it by 24% with less costs involved?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Australians are really pathetic. They basically just elected Sarah Palin to be their Prime Minister.

I would say that I'm surprised that they have elected such an open racist, but it's kind of expected with Australia.

 

[Agent11]

Some topical humor.

 

[monovillage]

No. What I said was that it is impossible to know the exact global average of every square inch of land, all the air space, for every second etc., etc going back to some arbitrary time to the present. Even if the global average temperature could be calculated with enough precision (it can't be, but I'm just throwing this out there) for the past ten years (which is itself very arbitrary), then what amount of temp increase/year would indicate global warming? .01 degrees F per year? .1 degrees increase F per year? .2 degrees farenheit per year?

I mean, it's pretty nebulous to say there is global warming.

I also wonder if the govt caused hurricane sandy... if they did, then they surely can't be trusted to help the environment. Look at how bad the response was to it; the govt doesn't care about the environment. All of the bombs set off and missiles launched by the U.S. govt cause a little bit of pollution don't they?

Some people always say the clean air act of 1990 reduced acid rain by 25%. Isn't the 25% figure based upon forecasts that are usually not accurate? How in the hell can they say it was worthwhile for all or even for the majority?
Suppose the market reduced it by 24% with less costs involved?

An excellent site for you A420:
http://judithcurry.com/2013/09/07/big-green-in-denial/

Big green in denial
Posted on September 7, 2013 | 270 Comments

by Judith Curry

Naomi Klein explains how environmentalists may be more damaging to their cause than climate change deniers.

Salon has a provocative post Naomi Klein: Green groups more damaging to cause than climate change deniers. Naomi Klein is author of two books: No Logo and The Shock Doctrine. She is currently working on a new book about climate change. Excerpts from the Salon article, which is from an interview by Jason Mark at the Earth Journal:

 

[Anarchist420]

An excellent site for you A420: http://judithcurry.com/2013/09/07/big-green-in-denial/

Thank you. I just read it. I like Naomi Klein a lot even if I disagree with half of her views.

here are some more good truths in case you haven't read them.

The environmental statists need to quit the shit they're doing and support the market.

 

[onlyCOpunk]

Australians are really pathetic. They basically just elected Sarah Palin to be their Prime Minister.

I would say that I'm surprised that they have elected such an open racist, but it's kind of expected with Australia.

Despite the fact that Abbott is a complete boob, he is not the sole decision maker of the country. Bills and laws still have to go through the house and senate. The party also has the ability to kick him out of his seat as Prime Minister if he proves to be ineffective.

When we go to vote, we don't vote for a Prime Minister, we vote for a party. Despite the carbon he has some very backwards views on many social things. For example he's planning to scrap out National Broadband Network which is already being built, but will keep our internet speeds in the 90's. He's also very good at inserting his Christians beliefs into government and definitely not going to move gay rights forward any time soon.

 

[Thebobo]

Despite the fact that Abbott is a complete boob, he is not the sole decision maker of the country. Bills and laws still have to go through the house and senate. The party also has the ability to kick him out of his seat as Prime Minister if he proves to be ineffective.

When we go to vote, we don't vote for a Prime Minister, we vote for a party. Despite the carbon he has some very backwards views on many social things. For example he's planning to scrap out National Broadband Network which is already being built, but will keep our internet speeds in the 90's. He's also very good at inserting his Christians beliefs into government and definitely not going to move gay rights forward any time soon.

Feel bad for your country today.

 

[monovillage]

Thank you. I just read it. I like Naomi Klein a lot even if I disagree with half of her views.

here are some more good truths in case you haven't read them.

The environmental statists need to quit the shit they're doing and support the market.

I voted for him in 2000, thanks for the link. With the choice being Gore, Bush, Nader or Browne, i voted Browne.