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Lifer
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I want to be clear, I'm not trying to imply its illegal or Trump should be impeached. Just honestly ask yourself what your reaction would have been if Obama or Bill Clinton did the same thing? I get that Trump is a Father and he's protecting his Daughter but the President really needs to be above this stuff.



http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/08/news/companies/donald-trump-nordstrom-ivanka/index.html
I know you didn't want to talk legality but I would like to point out the tweet from @POTUS now gives Nordstroms standing if they want to sue.
 
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UglyCasanova

Lifer
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I want to be clear, I'm not trying to imply its illegal or Trump should be impeached. Just honestly ask yourself what your reaction would have been if Obama or Bill Clinton did the same thing? I get that Trump is a Father and he's protecting his Daughter but the President really needs to be above this stuff.



http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/08/news/companies/donald-trump-nordstrom-ivanka/index.html

Very inappropriate in my opinion. I don't really consider myself to be a conservative though.
 

werepossum

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Everyone seems to be avoiding the question "What if Obama or Bill Clinton did the same thing"
Just to be clear - you're asking us to consider the horror of Bill Clinton sending an un-Presidential tweet? Bill Clinton, who used the most powerful office in the world as a cheap no-tell motel room to use a young intern as a masturbatory aid and, um, personal humidor, then when caught perjured himself, suborned perjury, and sent people out to call her a mentally ill stalker while he made sure to be repeatedly filmed carrying a Bible that a Catholic family could use as a formal dining room table?

By all means, let's consider the extremely hypothetical situation of Clinton doing anything as un-Presidential as Trump's tweet.
 
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Sunburn74

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Can he be sued for this somehow? It has to be some sort of violation of law to so blatantly strongarm US companies to personally profit his family members.
 

Jhhnn

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Just to be clear - you're asking us to consider the horror of Bill Clinton sending an un-Presidential tweet? Bill Clinton, who used the most powerful office in the world as a cheap no-tell motel room to use a young intern as a masturbatory aid and, um, personal humidor, then when caught perjured himself, suborned perjury, and sent people out to call her a mentally ill stalker while he made sure to be repeatedly filmed carrying a Bible that a Catholic family could use as a formal dining room table?

By all means, let's consider the extremely hypothetical situation of Clinton doing anything as un-Presidential as Trump's tweet.

Mmmm... diversion with conspiracy theory.
 
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Just to be clear - you're asking us to consider the horror of Bill Clinton sending an un-Presidential tweet? Bill Clinton, who used the most powerful office in the world as a cheap no-tell motel room to use a young intern as a masturbatory aid and, um, personal humidor, then when caught perjured himself, suborned perjury, and sent people out to call her a mentally ill stalker while he made sure to be repeatedly filmed carrying a Bible that a Catholic family could use as a formal dining room table?

By all means, let's consider the extremely hypothetical situation of Clinton doing anything as un-Presidential as Trump's tweet.

No I mean suspend disbelief and pretend Chelsea was an adult & twitter existed, he then sends out a tweet shitting on a company that chose to not sell Chelsey's stuff
 

werepossum

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No I mean suspend disbelief and pretend Chelsea was an adult & twitter existed, he then sends out a tweet shitting on a company that chose to not sell Chelsey's stuff
And then pretend that this is somehow less Presidential than a married man molesting the help?
 
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And then pretend that this is somehow less Presidential than a married man molesting the help?

Monica wasn't a willing and consenting sexual partner? She says that she was.

EDIT: Is this some of that 'fake news' I've been hearing about? Tsk, tsk. Shame on you.
 

agent00f

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Monica wasn't a willing and consenting sexual partner? She says that she was.

EDIT: Is this some of that 'fake news' I've been hearing about? Tsk, tsk. Shame on you.

It's an opportunity to dig up whatever about clinton. Same as Fern blaming the libtards for who the hell knows what because he also can't be bother to take responsibility for their ideology.

Trump can start gassing browns and it'll somehow be the democrats/clinton/benghazi's fault to people like this.
 

HomerJS

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Because everyone is judging this tweet against his other tweets and against his expected behavior which in turn is based on his past behavior. If Obama suddenly tweeted this, you're right, people on the right would say it's inappropriate. But we're so used to Trump doing inappropriate things, that even people on the left look at this and say, well gee, it's isn't that bad compared to what he just said like...yesterday.
So righties are admitting inappropriate is now the norm?
 

PokerGuy

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Nothing wrong with him tweeting his opinion on it from his own twitter. I don't like that the @potus twitter account retweeted it. To me the simple answer is for him to use his own twitter for his own personal opinions, and the potus twitter is for the positions of the US president. In the grand scheme, it's not even remotely close to a real issue though, regardless.
 

HomerJS

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Nothing wrong with him tweeting his opinion on it from his own twitter. I don't like that the @potus twitter account retweeted it. To me the simple answer is for him to use his own twitter for his own personal opinions, and the potus twitter is for the positions of the US president. In the grand scheme, it's not even remotely close to a real issue though, regardless.
Tweeting it during his national security briefing shows me he isn't doing his damn job

If he was really concerned about "fairness" to her contact them privately. I would say she was treated more fairly then contractors who did work for Trump who have yet to be paid.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Nothing wrong with him tweeting his opinion on it from his own twitter. I don't like that the @potus twitter account retweeted it. To me the simple answer is for him to use his own twitter for his own personal opinions, and the potus twitter is for the positions of the US president. In the grand scheme, it's not even remotely close to a real issue though, regardless.

I remember in the military, you get briefed fairly often on things like decorum. Like not ending up on-camera while in uniform (just to be safe) or if you do/cannot get away from that, don't do anything that would seem stupid, like start ranting about x or y, appearing as though there's some kind of bias from the military/its service members on a subject. Basically you're a professional there to do a job, and don't shit around the room in a way that makes people look poorly on the military as a whole.

Now, I see less and less of this nowadays, I can't count how many 'hey guys here I am on youtube from the middle east with opinions about brown people' videos I've seen. I really feel that this is the sort of thing that should just not happen. The POTUS is supposed to be a figurehead, the best of us. Not just another schlub that's allowed to be a raging cockwaffle on his personal time, but really-probably-professional otherwise. Most president's understood this, and you can see it while they're in office and after they get done. Notice how Obama isn't railing against Trump via twitter? I have no doubt Trump will have much to say after he makes his exit, based on his current behavior/personality.

It's just ... sloppy.
 
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Nothing wrong with him tweeting his opinion on it from his own twitter. I don't like that the @potus twitter account retweeted it. To me the simple answer is for him to use his own twitter for his own personal opinions, and the potus twitter is for the positions of the US president. In the grand scheme, it's not even remotely close to a real issue though, regardless.

You would be alright if Obama sent a personal tweet about a US business not buying Michelle Obama's book?
I think you are being deceptive.
 
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Just to be clear - you're asking us to consider the horror of Bill Clinton sending an un-Presidential tweet? Bill Clinton, who used the most powerful office in the world as a cheap no-tell motel room to use a young intern as a masturbatory aid and, um, personal humidor, then when caught perjured himself, suborned perjury, and sent people out to call her a mentally ill stalker while he made sure to be repeatedly filmed carrying a Bible that a Catholic family could use as a formal dining room table?

By all means, let's consider the extremely hypothetical situation of Clinton doing anything as un-Presidential as Trump's tweet.
What would his title have been if Hillary had won? 1st Husband? 1st Lord? Husband in waiting? First man?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...l-bill-clinton-if-hillary-president/85510416/
 

jayzds

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I think it's silly and he should stop tweeting altogether IMO while President. At least it provides entertainment for some and for others to rip on him because of the lame shit he posts at times...
 

PokerGuy

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You would be alright if Obama sent a personal tweet about a US business not buying Michelle Obama's book?
I think you are being deceptive.

As long as he's not doing anything against the law, I have no problem with it. The only issue I have is making sure there's a distinction between the personal opinion of the president versus the US government position. The US government has business meddling in such private dealings. Trump has every right to express his personal opinion that his daughter is being treated unfairly.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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As long as he's not doing anything against the law, I have no problem with it. The only issue I have is making sure there's a distinction between the personal opinion of the president versus the US government position. The US government has business meddling in such private dealings. Trump has every right to express his personal opinion that his daughter is being treated unfairly.

I'm inclined to disagree. There's several positions in our fine world that a person gets in where they no longer have a 'personal' and 'professional' opinion anymore, it's all the same ball of yarn. The Pope is one of those. The POTUS is another.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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As long as he's not doing anything against the law, I have no problem with it. The only issue I have is making sure there's a distinction between the personal opinion of the president versus the US government position. The US government has business meddling in such private dealings. Trump has every right to express his personal opinion that his daughter is being treated unfairly.

Spicer was literally slamming Nordstrom at the White House briefing, aka official rep of the highest office of the executive branch.

There's absolutely nothing these types won't defend til the end.
 
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