Are you ok with your state government forcing you to buy car insurance?
I'd like to know as well, because it is a frame of mind so alien to me that I just can't comprehend the thought process behind it.
not really, we have mandatory insurance is Wash state but many young drivers just ignore it. and My premiums have not gone down since it became mandatory to buy it. surprise surprise!
US Constitution is our governing document and it says "General Welfare."
general welfare means general welfare means general welfare.
That is in return for the priveledge to drive. If you are not OK with your state government forcing you to buy insurance, then you can opt not to and just not drive.
As long as you have a pulse, the feds are requiring you to buy something. There is no priveledge in return. There is a big difference
I dunno, I consider it a priveledge to live in the USA.
So do I, but I think most reasonable people can see the difference between the requirement of auto insurance to drive and health insurance to live.
You can opt out of one with no consquence (just wouldnt be able to drive)...
I, for one, could not live without driving. I may be able to survive, just like I would be able to survive in Iran, but is that really living?
I, for one, could not live without driving. I may be able to survive, just like I would be able to survive in Iran, but is that really living?
The state does not force proof of insurance prior to registering/renewing a vehicle?
In NV, one must; plus if you drop insurance the insurance company notifies the state; you will have a massive fine (more than the insurance costs) to renew your plates.
Basically there's still a choice you can make. With this health insurance mandate, there is no choice. The federal government FORCING you to buy something and you have NO CHOICE should bother you.
That's just wrong. You're deluding yourself man. You could most certaimly live without driving. Now, want to try something truly difficult? Live without breathing and get back to me.
Why do you think that it was originally part of the army and navy?
Just needed to wait until FDR eviscerated the Constitution before Truman could create the air force as its own entity.
Well technically, I have the choice to leave. Now that may not fly with many people around here so let me ask you something else. What choice are you really fighting for? Do you currently pay for health insurance? If so, would you ever think of not carrying health insurance? Would you ever not want to have health insurance?
That is indeed the danger of the progressive view of unlimited government power through a "living Constitution" and "promoting general welfare." The government could literally control every facet of our lives under the guise of promoting the general welfare.I'm so happy you think our constitution is 2 words long consisting entirely of something the government is allowed to do to its people. Which, when extrapolated, is pretty much anything and everything.
Progress?
You think going from a free country that was a Constitution Republic to a socialist oligarchy is progress?
Do you need the government to tell you how many times you need to poop and at what time?
They will.
This is NOT progress, it is regression.
Right back to the Dark Ages where a small minority rules over the masses who have no rights and who's labor goes to the elite to be distributed as they please.
Our current form of capitalism isnt all that different, with the only change being who is included in the small ruling minority.
regards,
DJ
If this bill goes through; there will be lawsuits filed by the states before the ink is dry.
The USSC will end up making the call. Will they do so in early Oct; in time to impact the elections?
You are obviously OK with the government forcing you to buy goods/services.
Of course I have health insurance, no I would never not have it. Thats not the point. The point is the federal government telling me I HAVE to buy something. Slippery slope argument. Whats next? Its federal government intrustion into my private life and I do not like it, nor do most Americans. You may be OK with it for now, but you may not be in the future.
I'd like to know as well, because it is a frame of mind so alien to me that I just can't comprehend the thought process behind it.
It is a phony question since that is not the mind frame, no more so than the last 8 years while Bush was leading the biggest expansion of the federal government in years. It is about filling the basic right of all Americans to decent health care. The private sector won't do it so that leaves government. It isn't ideal but it is the best we have.
State of Oklahoma is prepping a suit as well.....and we have a Democratic AG. Of course he is running for Governor so it might just be a PR stunk.
I disagree -- it certainly seems to be a frame of mind IMO. People too often run to the government as the first solution, rather than the last.
And enough with the "Bu..Bu...Bush" stuff. I am on record in these very forums expressing my frustration with his policies/administration. Even more frustrating is the fact that Obama chose to continue many of those same policies.
That is why I said NO MORE SO THAN the last 8 years. It has not changed. The change is the people screaming about it today mostly ignored it when Republicans were in power. If you are a rare exception, good for you.
That is indeed the danger of the progressive view of unlimited government power through a "living Constitution" and "promoting general welfare." The government could literally control every facet of our lives under the guise of promoting the general welfare.
Government directly controlling what we drive, how much we eat, and the temperature of our homes is our future, I fear.
It is no different from Republicans wanting government with unlimited power to control who we marry and what we do with our bodies. You have no moral high ground to stand on.