Contract-to-hire or direct hire?

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pnad

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Any staffing folks in the house? Need some advice.

There is a position open at a local company and they have the opening posted directly on their website.

I have also been working with a consulting firm who has presented me with this position as a con-2-hire.

They have not yet submitted me for this position and I am thinking about just applying directly with the company. Mainly so I could get vacation and benefits sooner.

Any risk that the consulting place could hear that I applied directly and somehow mess up the hiring process?
 

Zeze

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Yes.

The consulting firm wouldn't like it at all if a third party also was representing you.

In this case, the third party is you. You could potentially screw up the hiring/money-making process between your consulting firm & client.

If I were you, I'd make a quick call and feel the salary range of this perm position, then stop there.

Compare it with the contract rates and assess it from there.
 

smackababy

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I know some staffing agencies can have you sign them the "right" to represent you for a certain position, though I don't know the legality of it.

I doubt they could interfere with YOUR process, but it might get the company pissed off as they have to deal with the staffing agency afterwards.
 

Tweak155

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I'd just ask the rate from the contract company. I've never had one not give it to me. Sometimes they will give you a rate and ask if it OK which means there is probably a lot of room.
 

pnad

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The same consulting firm told a colleague of mine that the pay was expected to be 70-80k once hired full time. He did not state the contract rate but implied it would be similar.
 

cabri

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Once submitted to the company from the Contract firm; the company may be in violation of their agreement with the contracting firm if they then bring you on, bypassing the contracting firm.

If you do not have an agreement with the contracting firm; then fair game.
 

pnad

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Once submitted to the company from the Contract firm; the company may be in violation of their agreement with the contracting firm if they then bring you on, bypassing the contracting firm.

If you do not have an agreement with the contracting firm; then fair game.

This was my thinking. I have not asked them to submit me and I have no contract with them.
 

jlee

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The same consulting firm told a colleague of mine that the pay was expected to be 70-80k once hired full time. He did not state the contract rate but implied it would be similar.

Contract rates should generally be higher than permanent salary.
 

MixMasterTang

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Contract rates should generally be higher than permanent salary.

Depends if it's a W2 contractor or a 1099. A lot of staffing agencies offer benefits for contracting position and the pay is generally very similar to what you would be making as a direct hire.
 

jlee

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Depends if it's a W2 contractor or a 1099. A lot of staffing agencies offer benefits for contracting position and the pay is generally very similar to what you would be making as a direct hire.
Interesting. First time I've heard that-- must be difficult for them to find people with no financial incentive for temporary employment.
 

pnad

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Are there any other benefits to going with the contract option? Better chance of getting in the door?

I'm sure the contract start date would be quicker but I have a decent job now so waiting isn't a huge deal.
 

Cuular

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Most companies would rather hire a direct hire, in the first place, if that's what they intend to do.

It's cheaper in the long run, then paying the agency your salary and a bunch of extra money.

Since the company has the job listed directly on their site, and you don't have a contract signed with the agency stating they are your representative for this, skip the agency and go direct.

Any place I've worked has not really been that friendly with the agencies. So you going directly to the company, shouldn't even make it back to the agency.
 
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