converting intel system to amd system?

[benjamit]

will it only take a new mobo and cpu?

will everything else [h/w] that works on an intel system work on a new amd mobo and cpu?

i have an old slot 1 that i *might* want to replace *if cheap enough* with a new mobo and amd chip

 

[sohcrates]

yep. that's all you need. just make sure you have the right RAM for your new athlon

 

[LXi]

It will work if your RAM and power supply is good enough. Oh yea, and your heatsink too.

 

[benjamit]

what kind of ram would i need?

wouldn't pc133 work?

what about timing and things like that?

i suppose i need to learn about this kind of stuff at some point

where should i go?

link?

 

[bigd480]

hardware yes, but when i was considering this ppl mentioned something about mobo/chipset drivers and it would be better if i formatted first...

 

[CotswoldCS]

Yeah, a decent PSU is essential, especially if you are going for a high spec system. Go for a 300W PSU to be sure.

If you are currently using PC100 SDRAM on your Intel system, you may want to consider purchasing some PC133 or going for a DDR board and some rather nifty DDR SDRAM.

Don't forget the watercooler for the Athlon chip! ;-)

 

[benjamit]

yes i agree about the format

amd and linux are looking better to me the more i know about computers

 

[LXi]

PC133 will work, but generic RAMs dont, you need some decent quality PC133. For power supply, you need at least a 300-350 watt brand name power supply. Heatsink/fan has to be AMD approved. And you'll definitely need to format your hard drive when you swap motherboards.

 

[smp]

All you need is a new mobo, and a new chip (of course). I think you have PC133 ram, so you're okay (unless you want to get a DDR board). The power supply though, you will probably need a new power supply. What kind of slot board do you have now? What's your system like? (is it the dfi p2xbl rev.d1, the gaming system in your rig)???

You should be fine, but yeah, PSU most likely. I just got a enermax 300W yesturday for 50CND, so you can get one of those, they're good. You might want more power if you go really high, like 1.4 gig AMD or whatever. What are you planning on doing with that PIII 450? I could use it.

<edit> You'll be able to swap motherboards, and windows will probably load, but it will detect all new hardware for a little while. You'll have to reformat anyways, so you might as well do it right away, of course, you don't HAVE to.. but it'd be wise.</edit>

 

[benjamit]

why wouldn't generic pc133 that work on intel not work for amd?

and yes it is the gaming machine in my sig though i don't game

the psu for that is 250w

the mobo for that machine was the first desktop i bought 2 years ago

the slot cpu may be of some worth now but the mobo isn't worth too much

plus the slot format is out

 

[InFlames]

Power supply and cooling will be you rmain concerns. 300W at minimum plus an AMD approved HSF. I fyou plan on doing any kind of OC'ing, get a good aftermarket HSF such as the ThermoEngine, Vantec, or GlobalWin Fop 32. If you are going to do some hardcore OC'ing, get the Delta 38 fan as well.

 

[LXi]

<<why wouldn't generic pc133 that work on intel not work for amd?>>

It might, but AMD systems are very picky about RAM, you can give it a try, but if you want aboslute stability, brand name PC133 is recommended. 250W is not going to enough for an AMD system.

 

[smp]

I wasn't aware that brand name ram was an issue. I thought that generic worked too.
Death: would you be interested in selling that 450? If you want to let it go for cheap I might want it. Slot is still alive baby (at least at my house it is )
You don't need a delta fan either. A good heatsink is important, even if you're overclocking you don't need one of these 8 thousand dollar heatsinks.. you just need something good like a
FOP 38 (loud)
Taisol CGK
Alpha (6035 or pep66)
Those are all good, there are lots though, and you can find lots of threads that deal with just that. Again, if you're not overclocking, don't worry about it, buy a &quot;retail box&quot; cpu and it should come with a HSF. Happy AMD'ing.

 

[arod]

Death, what are you planning to buy? 1 GHZ... more

 

[thedarkwolf]

If it was me I would just keep your current ram and power supply and atleast try them before blowing money on something you might not need. There are lots of people on here running cheap generic ram and 200-250watt powersupplies without any problems. If your planning to get a real highend t-bird I would probably go ahead and get the new powersupply though.

 

[benjamit]

well i was thinking of how much cheaper amd chips are compared to intel
and for single chip mobos amd is still cheaper then intel
i recently built the dual in my sig because amd had no dual offering and i wanted a strong machine
prices for p3 were also lower and the msi board price was good for a dual

i'm thinking of an cheap amd mobo and a cheap low clock chip

it doesn't have to be fast i already have a fast machine

there is really no reason for me to change unless it's really cheap

the 450 is reliable and fast enough and so is the dfi mobo

if i can can get a faster clock chip for little money and a new mobo for little money then i might do it

but the generic ram and the 250w psu might be a problem and so might not be worth it

 

[Mamapajama]

The only problems you'll run into is drivers for your mobo.. I recently switched my old system at home from a p2 to an amd slot 600. I knew I shouldve formatted first, but since i was going to get rid of everything anyway, i played around with it for a while before doing so..

just as i had guessed, problems began shootin up.. drivers for my mobo (the p2) were obviously not compatible with the new chaintech mobo i had for the amd, and that started causing problems of all sorts when starting up.. next, i tried looking specifically for the old files i knew i had to delete.. this worked for a while, but still, problems were evident. the most obvious drivers you can look for can be found in your system settings in control panel, but that will only take you so far.. as long as you have both drivers, your system will incur start-up problems and what not.. PM me if you want to know anything more about swapping systems like you mentioned.

 

[TheCrusher]

I did this exact conversion about a month ago. I had a 450 PIII on an Abit BE-6, and was getting all kinds of problems at bootup that convinced me I needed a new MB. I bought a 750 Duron for $32, a fan, and a low-end Epox 8KTA2L (KT133E chipset, only 5 PCI slots) for $78 at newegg. I'm reusing the case, power supply (250W), RAM (128MB PC100), DVD, CDRW, floppy, hard drive and video (32MB TNT2). Everything's working great so far, and it only cost me about $10 more than buying a new BX motherboard.

 

[Modus]

I used nothing but generic PC133 for all my AMD builds in the past two years without any more problems than with name brand RAM.

Modus

 

[benjamit]

well i just got a wd ide 100 30 gb 5400 hdd to replace the orginal bigfoot 13 gb 5400 hdd but the new one isn't recognized by the onboard ide 33 controller

funny the onboard controller recognized my maxtor 66 20 gb 7200 hdds just fine

so i installed a promise 66 pci controller and hopefully the new drive is seem otherwise i might get a new amd mobo and chip

the wd drive spins up at power plus its new so chances are it works

 

[ObiDon]

If your WD drive has an IDE channel to itself, make sure it's jumpered for &quot;single drive&quot; instead of master otherwise it might not detect

I did a motherboard swap (BX to 810) without reinstalling windows once and got all kinds of strange problems. The NFS: PU demo would work fine but the retail version would crash back to the desktop :Q

 

[benjamit]

why won't it detect as master if it on its own channel?

my cdrom is master on its own channel but its detected by the bios

ps- i flashed the bios to the latest already but still no detect