Cooking a steak in the oven with a cast iron skillet?

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Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: dirtylimey
Originally posted by: waggy
while personally i don't think its as good as on a charcoal grill its still damn good.

I feel that if you cannot get 100% out of your steak (on a charcoal grill), its not worth spending the money on a decent steak.

then you are just trying to be a elit snob. since nearly EVERY steak house do it in a oven.
Funny how nobody uses an oven in steak cooking competitions.

I've had very good steaks in restaurants where use an oven or skillet, but never as good as on a charcoal grill.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: Svnla
Hey OP, the center of the steak kinda a bit too raw <not even pink>. You really eat that?

Eh, I feel fine *knock on wood*

Hummm... it is fine for now.

I can see it now, tomorrow or later.... a new thread from the OP... "Why oh why did I eat that steak.... posting from the toilet in which I have been siting on for the last few hours"
 

Svnla

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: Svnla
Hey OP, the center of the steak kinda a bit too raw <not even pink>. You really eat that?

Are you kidding? That steak is near perfect.

You can eat beef raw, ya know...

You can't be serious. I hope you mean RARE and not RAW as in uncooked.
 

Kabrinski

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Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: Svnla
Hey OP, the center of the steak kinda a bit too raw <not even pink>. You really eat that?

Are you kidding? That steak is near perfect.

You can eat beef raw, ya know...

You can't be serious.

Yes, he is. There are a few different ways to prepare it. Probably the most popular I know of is commonly called Steak Tartare.

Edit: And OP, nice job on the steak, but way, way to red for me.
 

Auric

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Kosher is imaginary nonsense. Coarse sea salt is coarse sea salt.

Thou shalt not befoul thine steak with onion.

Grape seed oil sports a high smoke temperature. Exceedingly little oil should be required with beef -just 'nuff so it does not stick before its own fat melts. I exclusively make bison and even that does not need much despite being uber low in fat.

I am unconvinced as to the efficacy of using the stove at all since it means stinking out the place even more. It cannot achieve anything diff'rent than the skillet in the oven beyond perhaps allowing more minute control over the process and thus being easier to get right. But then that would always be necessary as one would not learn how to do it exclusively in the oven. Transferring introduces risk also.

But hey, whatever works. Clearly, everyone and their cat has a slightly diff'rent method.
 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: binister
How in the world did you get grill marks on a steak cooked in a cast iron skillet?

Those are sear marks. This is how.

Oven safe to 260dg

???

Might not want to use that one.

I linked the first one I found. I can't be everyone's nanny. The idea was to show the raised portions of the pan.
 

Svnla

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Originally posted by: Kabrinski
Yes, he is. There are a few different ways to prepare it. Probably the most popular I know of is commonly called Steak Tartare.

Edit: And OP, nice job on the steak, but way, way to red for me.

Have anyone ever tried it? Don't you worry about parasite and stuffs like Mad Cow Diease?

<<<------ is adventurous but will pass on raw meat.
 

Auric

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There are those cast iron Panini presses which could be used to add grill marks while using a regular skillet for searing. A ridged pan shan't really sear.

Has anyone heard of using a fully enclosing Panini press to cook steak in so as to minimize stink? Or would that retain too much moisture and turn out weirdly part-boiled or such as?
 

Kabrinski

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Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: Kabrinski
Yes, he is. There are a few different ways to prepare it. Probably the most popular I know of is commonly called Steak Tartare.

Edit: And OP, nice job on the steak, but way, way to red for me.

Have anyone ever tried it? Don't you worry about parasite and stuffs like Mad Cow Diease?

<<<------ is adventurous but will pass on raw meat.

I personally haven't tried it because it disgusts me a little. I don't like meat being medium, let alone rare or raw. However, it is considered a delicacy and quite popular in a number of places in this country and others.
 

LS21

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Originally posted by: Svnla


Have anyone ever tried it? Don't you worry about parasite and stuffs like Mad Cow Diease?

<<<------ is adventurous but will pass on raw meat.

the prions that causes MCD cannot be killed by heat

but yes, steak tartare is quite good
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: Kabrinski
Yes, he is. There are a few different ways to prepare it. Probably the most popular I know of is commonly called Steak Tartare.

Edit: And OP, nice job on the steak, but way, way to red for me.

Have anyone ever tried it? Don't you worry about parasite and stuffs like Mad Cow Diease?

<<<------ is adventurous but will pass on raw meat.

Cooking does not kill MCD but it does do so to parasites and E. Coli. Ground mystery meat (hamburger) is the worst of course while steak is the least risky so making your own ground round is advised (store bought could be contaminated by the same machinery used for mystery meat).
 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: LS21
Originally posted by: Svnla


Have anyone ever tried it? Don't you worry about parasite and stuffs like Mad Cow Diease?

<<<------ is adventurous but will pass on raw meat.

the prions that causes MCD cannot be killed by heat

but yes, steak tartare is quite good

Correct.

Also, Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (or mad cow disease) is a disease that effects cows, not humans. Some scienteists think that if you eat the brain of a cow that has BSE you might develope the disease but this hasn't been proven. There is a similar disease that does effect humans called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, it however is not caused by eating beef.
 

Blayze

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Svnla
Hey OP, the center of the steak kinda a bit too raw <not even pink>. You really eat that?
Yeah, that's way to rare for me.

Same, although to me it looks beyond rare (medium well, or well done is the only way I'll eat a steak.)

Anyway I've never tried cooking a steak like that. I might have to give it a try.
 

newnameman

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Originally posted by: Blayze
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Svnla
Hey OP, the center of the steak kinda a bit too raw <not even pink>. You really eat that?
Yeah, that's way to rare for me.

Same, although to me it looks beyond rare (medium well, or well done is the only way I'll eat a steak.)

Anyway I've never tried cooking a steak like that. I might have to give it a try.
I feel sorry for you.

 

Auric

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Was not that rash of CJD cases in Old Blighty linked to BSE which in turn was from cattle being fed sheep offal? The cause is truly unknown??
 

I Saw OJ

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Originally posted by: Blayze
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Svnla
Hey OP, the center of the steak kinda a bit too raw <not even pink>. You really eat that?
Yeah, that's way to rare for me.

Same, although to me it looks beyond rare (medium well, or well done is the only way I'll eat a ruined steak.)

Anyway I've never tried cooking a steak like that. I might have to give it a try.

Fixed it for you
 

Eos

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It was 104 on Friday and by the time the g/f got home it was after 10, so I tried the cast iron thing too.

2 - 10 oz New York steaks, about 1 inch thick.
2 - 12" Lodge cast iron skillets; one for each steak so there's lots of room.

Let the steak come to room temp for 45 min.
Salt and pepper both sides.
Preheat skillets to about medium over a gas cooktop.
Lay steaks in skillets and sear until solid brown. Flip to a new part of the skillet and repeat.

At this point, I start poking it with my finger to estimate doneness. She likes hers medium rare (aka bloody), I go for a strong medium. Dark pink but only in the middle third.

End result is I did not care for the flavor. I'm certain if I add spices and herbs to it, the pan steak can taste very good. The meat was tender and delicious, but not that bitchin', melt in your mouth taste I get from a Weber charcoal session. No more pan steak for me. $10.50 a pound NY Steaks only go on the grill.

Alton Brown method:

When determining the doneness of a steak, the feel of it is actually more important than the look.
Instead of inserting a thermometer or, worse, cutting into a steak (causing valuable juices to flow out), many good cooks rely on mere touch.
You'll need two hands to do it -- your own. That's because certain areas of your palm have the same softness or firmness as steak cooked to a particular degree of doneness.
Try this:

1. Hold your palm up, hand muscles relaxed. With your other hand, poke at the fleshy mound at the base of your thumb. Soft like a down pillow, right? It's the same softness as a raw piece of meat. When you get your meat home, give it a push and see.
2. To test for a rare steak, lightly touch your thumb to your index finger on the hand which is palm up. Now use your other hand's index finger to touch that same fleshy mound. That's how the steak should feel when you prod it with a set of tongs -- never a fork!
3. For medium-rare, touch your thumb to your middle finger and feel the pillow area with your other hand's index finger. That's how your steak should feel when you press on it.
4. For medium, match your thumb to your ring finger.
5. For medium-well, thumb to pinkie.

Be conservative and figure that less well-done is better than more well-done because you can always throw it back on the grill. Remember that meat continues to cook after you pull it off the grill -- and a 10-minute rest is good for re-absorbing the flowing juices.
 

ed21x

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looks like the OP didn't let it sit to room temp... either that or it wasn't cooked long enough. great first result though, looks yummy
 

KMFJD

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We used to eat Steak Tartare a few times a year , mainly during the holidays, it is awesome!!
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: Auric
Kosher is imaginary nonsense. Coarse sea salt is coarse sea salt.

Actually, I remembered Kosher is potentially worse than that as it may actually be derived from cheap mined sources or even manufactered by compressing table salt. Which makes sense since it is meant for bulk "koshering" of meat rather than for flavouring foods. From the Salt Institute:


What is the Difference Between Kosher Salt and Sea Salt?

Many chefs prefer kosher salt in cooking certain dishes, usually as a topping, or to add special crunch or taste to food. Kosher salt is made by similar evaporation processes as cubic table salt. However, some processes allow their crystals to grow at normal atmospheric pressure which makes a different shaped and larger crystal possible. In other manufacturing processes, Kosher Salt is made by compressing table salt crystals under pressure and then sizing the resulting agglomerates to yield a coarse-type salt.

Sea salt is produced by evaporation of sea water at atmospheric temperature and pressure. The crystals tend to form inverted pyramid shapes not all that different from Kosher Salt produced at atmospheric pressure referred to in the first paragraph. Depending upon the geographic location, altitude, and composition of the salt ponds from which the salt originates, the salt may take on certain colors representing some of the trace minerals in the area. Some of these impart a different taste or flavor, either pleasant or possibly objectionable to the taste of the salt, and hence, the food to which it is added. Mainly, it is a matter of preference and cost. Generally speaking, sea salt is considerably more expensive than Kosher Salt or regular cubic table salt.
 
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