[coolaler] Devils Canyon: 4.0 base/ 4.4 turbo @ stock

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moonbogg

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The question is where would an overclocked Ivy-E hexcore place in that chart. Form the looks of it, on top, maybe.

I do believe there is some GPU bottlenecking in those charts. But if they are anything to go by, id expect the 4960x at the same clock speed to fly way ahead of the others. The IPC is weaker, but 50% more cores, if actually used, will clearly fly way ahead.
Anyone interested in keeping their rig for a good 2 years or more would be quite wise to consider investing in Haswell-E IMO.
 

frowertr

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That's probably quite true, but I still don't think I could ever bring myself to have the GPU at 8x.

Are you talking gaming or compute?

My gaming rig's GPU is on 8X PCIe 2.0 since the other slot is populated with a sound card thus reducing their speed. There have been plenty of tests that show that even SLI Titans/290Xs don't fully saturate an 8x 2.0 link and the performance gain/decreases are minimal at most.
 

SlowSpyder

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You can scale all you want. The IPC just isn't there.

The only way AMD CPUs do better is if AMD makes a NEW CPU design that is good. The older stuff won't just magically do well when games start using more cores.


The more threaded a piece of software or game is, the more competitive AMD's current FX CPU's become (at least the eight core products). But, yea, the current FX CPU's certainly aren't the way forward for AMD.
 

thelead

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I wish I would of bought one at launch that thing held its value for sure. Its been what 3 years now almost 4?

It's been a while for sure. I don't think I've gone through this many generations without upgrading. Every time I think about upgrading, I just find something else to upgrade instead (ssd's, gpu, better mobo, etc).

I'm thinking about upgrading my case and cooler now that it looks like I won't be upgrading.
 

Lepton87

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FX 9370 @ ~5.3GHz. The CPU uses 380 watts at load/QUOTE]

That's awesome, my whole rig only manage to pull 450W and that is from the outlet including over-sized 1.2kW PSU loses. I wish I had a kill-a-watt device when I had 4-way CF, It would have cracked 1kW for sure.
 

USER8000

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consoles don't have to deal with DX11 and windows drivers, the CPU load/performance is different,

and the consoles use Jaguar cores,

but I believe it's going to have a positive impact for the AMD CPUs with 6 cores or more, the trouble is, it's probably not enough to make them really look good when you consider things like power usage

WatchDogs is supposedly next gen and scales well with 6-8 cores


but it's not enough to clearly beat the higher IPC cores, even with no HT the 4c/4t i5s have no problem competing, with a much lower clock



8350 only as fast a 3.3GHz i5 sandy bridge, with 8 cores, 4GHz and a game scaling well with more than 4t.

now go back to 2-4t games and...

The Pentium dual cores don't do very well at all in the game - even the unlocked one at 4.5GHZ is going to be beaten by a Ivy Bridge Core i3 at stock.

It looks at least a Ivy Bridge Core i3 is the minimum you want for some of the games based on new engines.
 

Bman123

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I am just starting to buy parts for a new rig. I'm waiting to see what happens with haswell e pricing before I get a CPU unless MC runs a $199 i7 with $40-$50 off a compatible board. Patiently waiting to see reviews of what this DC i7 can do on air
 

24601

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I am just starting to buy parts for a new rig. I'm waiting to see what happens with haswell e pricing before I get a CPU unless MC runs a $199 i7 with $40-$50 off a compatible board. Patiently waiting to see reviews of what this DC i7 can do on air

Beware. They might send cherry chips to reviewers just like they did with the original Haswell-K.

Remember the reviewers saying you could do 5ghz on their cherry chips?

That sure ended well.
 

kimmel

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Beware. They might send cherry chips to reviewers just like they did with the original Haswell-K.

Remember the reviewers saying you could do 5ghz on their cherry chips?

That sure ended well.

No, I just remember Kyle from HardOCP warning people that a few random internet pictures of CPU-Z that showed data that was too good to be true, was indeed too good to be true. The people actually with chips said we would have roughly the distribution of frequencies that people are seeing.
 

SlowSpyder

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FX 9370 @ ~5.3GHz. The CPU uses 380 watts at load/QUOTE]

That's awesome, my whole rig only manage to pull 450W and that is from the outlet including over-sized 1.2kW PSU loses. I wish I had a kill-a-watt device when I had 4-way CF, It would have cracked 1kW for sure.


Heh, thanks. 218 x 24.5 @ 1.575v, Rosewill Lightning 1300w power supply. Not quite 4-way CF power use, but it is a gas guzzler for sure. :awe:
 
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