[coolaler] Devils Canyon: 4.0 base/ 4.4 turbo @ stock

[TreVader]

I think the issue with haswell-E is it's a good $300-600 bump in price when you compare the cost of a good 2011 board and a six core.

 

[StinkyPinky]

It's looking more and more likely that September was bogus. I hope to have one within the next couple of weeks.

 

[erunion]

so 4.0ghz base IS real. Wow.

 

[Homeles]

so 4.0ghz base IS real. Wow.

Yep. Definitely an interesting turn of events.

Intel's going to have to give Broadwell-K the same treatment, or else it'll be a useless part. I think this would explain why Skylake-K is farther out as well.

So here's hoping that Intel continues down this path.

It's looking more and more likely that September was bogus. I hope to have one within the next couple of weeks.

I think I was hearing mid July for availability. I goofed up on the Computex thing... that was the announcement, not the launch.

On a tangential note... I'm disappointed to see that the substrate is a blue-green rather than blue. You see, I had been noticing that the hue had been getting "more blue" over time. Was wondering if that trend would continue into the indigo spectrum. Perhaps it will shift back to green...

 

[Arachnotronic]

Fantastic product. Hope it does well for Intel so that they continue to focus on enthusiasts.

 

[BFG10K]

so 4.0ghz base IS real. Wow.

I ordered my new Z97 motherboard last night. This is the first time I'm actually excited by a CPU release since the original Core 2 Duo was released.

I don't overclock so the high base clock is perfect for me.

 

[ehume]

I'm still waiting to know if it was soldered or pasted.

 

[Homeles]

I'm still waiting to know if it was soldered or pasted.

It's apparently a "next generation polymer thermal interface material."

http://i.imgur.com/0AwwRd8.png

 

[ehume]

Hm. I wonder if someone will sell the Next Generation Polymer TIM separately? what's good for the CPU/IHS interface should be good for the IHS/heatsink interface as well.

 

[Idontcare]

I'm still waiting to know if it was soldered or pasted.

And if pasted, did they do anything to address "the gap"?

Either solution is acceptable - be it soldered or simply minimizing the gap and using the same old TIM.

 

[dennilfloss]

Even for someone like me who has no plan of overclocking, that 4.0 base, 4.4 turbo sounds like a nice upgrade to my Phenom II.

 

[TreVader]

It's really not that hard to use good TIM sad that being built properly is now a "special feature" for a CPU

 

[Homeles]

It's really not that hard to use good TIM sad that being built properly is now a "special feature" for a CPU

The TIM Intel used on HSW and IVB was actually comparable to the highest end pastes available to consumers.

And if pasted, did they do anything to address "the gap"?

Either solution is acceptable - be it soldered or simply minimizing the gap and using the same old TIM.

I'd imagine they had to, since they didn't use solder.

 

[StinkyPinky]

This is from a guy on another forum that got hold of some...

Originally Posted by dhenzjhen

I just tested 4790ks and 4690ks ES chips using Maximus VII hero

1 out of 5 4790Ks did superpi 32m at 5ghz 4c at 1.365V and the rest not stable even at 1.4v to 1.42v
5 out of 5 4690Ks doesn't boot 5ghz 4c 1.365 to 1.42.

So not exactly screaming along.

 

[Skott]

So one 4790k did 5GHz? So that means it is possible. Need more thorough testing before saying what the chip can really do.

 

[dennilfloss]

AnandTech's article is up.

 

[StinkyPinky]

From Hardocp....

Intel is fully exposing its new Devil's Canyon processors to the public today in Taiwan. Sadly though, as of typing this, no samples have been released to reviewers, however Intel is "hoping to ship samples by end of week" for the Core i7 derivative. As far as the public getting its hands on a retailer processor, that will likely happen in 2 to 3 weeks. On the upside, we should be able to get a ton of hands on experience to our readers by the time you can purchase a Devil's Canyon CPU in retail.

Oh well

 

[Skott]

Amazon and NE both have them listed now. Amazon says ships 3 to 5 weeks. NE says June 25th. Amazon is selling them about $15 cheaper with prime but if with tax now collected in my state its cheaper to go with NE. I wonder if they will start raising the prices and gouge like they commonly do when something is new and in high demand?

 

[Alatar]

So one 4790k did 5GHz? So that means it is possible. Need more thorough testing before saying what the chip can really do.

It's been possible on the normal 4770Ks as well. Hell much more than 5ghz is possible assuming you have a good sample.

For example the reason I haven't been excited about Devil's Canyon is that my current chip is quite good:

It would seem like DC is just better TIM (maybe the gap also fixed) and better packaging materials. That should help with getting the stock clocks up since normal haswells were usually thermally limited but I doubt the max OC potential will go up that much in most cases.

 

[toyota]

lol 4770k at 5.5 using only 1.35? what magical land did that mofo come from?

 

[USER8000]

First review of an ES sample:

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/70473-intel-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon-22nm-haswell/

 

[toyota]

First review of an ES sample:

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/70473-intel-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon-22nm-haswell/

It is reasonable to assume that overclocking plays a big part in considering this processor. However, our engineering sample exhibited unexpectedly poor overclocking potential, barely stable at an all-core 4.4GHz

 

[rtsurfer]

lol 4770k at 5.5 using only 1.35? what magical land did that mofo come from?

I think it is a partial suicide run.
It wouldn't pass something like Linpack.

If this guy is the same as Alatar from OCN, then you shouldn't be surprised if he got his hands on a Golden chip.

 

[NTMBK]

Intel's going to have to give Broadwell-K the same treatment, or else it'll be a useless part. I think this would explain why Skylake-K is farther out as well.

Remember, there's not just a CPU in Broadwell. There's a GPU too.

I'm hoping Intel will give us an LGA GT3e SKU with Broadwell K. Overclock the memory, mildly overclock the GPU, and you've got a nice gaming machine to go under the TV.

 

[jj109]

It is reasonable to assume that overclocking plays a big part in considering this processor. However, our engineering sample exhibited unexpectedly poor overclocking potential, barely stable at an all-core 4.4GHz

Did they mean 4.4 GHz at 1.15 Vcore or with voltage dialed up? A 4770K that's stable at 4.2 @ 1.15 Vcore should do 4.4 easily unless the uncore ratio was being bumped too.