Coolaler has an Ivy Bridge CPU

[GammaLaser]

I had assumed that IB was just supposed to be a die shrink of the SB architecture. It would seem weird for Intel to make major architectural changes during their "tick" phase. That said it is an engineering sample so I wouldn't read too much into the results.

It looks like a lot of emphasis was put into the IGP in IVB. From a post I previously made in the VC&G forum...

If we look here it appears that the GPU takes up a good 33% of the Ivy Bridge die:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4386/a-quick-look-at-a-22nm-ivy-bridge-wafer

Compared to less than 25% in Sandy Bridge.

RAM, my friend. LGA2011's 8 slots don't take no for an answer! That's reason #1 why I'm not looking at LGA1155 at all.

Have there been any announcements of LGA2011 mobos that support 8 slots besides Intel's? Most of them I've seen only have 4 slots, which is not many for an enthusiast platform.

 

[bridito]

Have there been any announcements of LGA2011 mobos that support 8 slots besides Intel's? Most of them I've seen only have 4 slots, which is not many for an enthusiast platform.

AFAIK, other than that insane Asus Danshui Bay only Intel's mobos have them, but I have my credit card on standby for a Siler or at least a Thorsby! Now if only AMD would get their motor runnin' and hit me with a V12 supercharged NOx BD... oh, we can dream!

 

[yottabit]

AFAIK, other than that insane Asus Danshui Bay only Intel's mobos have them, but I have my credit card on standby for a Siler or at least a Thorsby! Now if only AMD would get their motor runnin' and hit me with a V12 supercharged NOx BD... oh, we can dream!

I think you'd only really want NO2 in there. Just sayin'

 

[bridito]

I think you'd only really want NO2 in there. Just sayin'

What am I going to do with NO2 in a V12 supercharged engine? Keep my Klondike Bars cold while I'm cruising on Saturday nights?

(Just kiddin'... I know about NO2 CPU cooling...)

 

[yottabit]

What am I going to do with NO2 in a V12 supercharged engine? Keep my Klondike Bars cold while I'm cruising on Saturday nights?

(Just kiddin'... I know about NO2 CPU cooling...)

Oops.. I mean't N2O... fail chemistry.

And you'd want LN2 on your chip

 

[VirtualLarry]

Is it also normal that it's a little slower on SuperPI than an i5 at the same speed? (Page 5.)

I'm wondering if Sandy Bridge is going to be Intel's pinnacle, the highest-end of their "fat cores" strategy, and future CPUs will be more oriented towards low-power, rather than high-performance. Future CPUs will probably increase performance via ISA extensions (SIMD/multimedia opcodes/AVX, etc.), and not pure core IPC increases.

Hoard your SB 2500K/2600K chips, folks, while they're still available!

 

[tweakboy]

1155 for mainstream variant, 2011 for the extreme/high end variant.

Nice rig brother... Are we gonna do 32GB RAM for Windows 8 lol

 

[tweakboy]

P2B 450Mhz OC @ 504Mhz with a amazing 256MB of ram and a cheetah 4.7GB HD scsi
But UT99 would always crash until I took it back to stock 450Mhz and it didnt crash no more. man I payed over 2k for that build.. sighs.. lol

 

[podspi]

I'm wondering if Sandy Bridge is going to be Intel's pinnacle, the highest-end of their "fat cores" strategy, and future CPUs will be more oriented towards low-power, rather than high-performance. Future CPUs will probably increase performance via ISA extensions (SIMD/multimedia opcodes/AVX, etc.), and not pure core IPC increases.

Hoard your SB 2500K/2600K chips, folks, while they're still available!

I doubt SB will be, but I believe this is where we are going, and it is a good thing unless you have a legacy program that also needs tons of power. But usually those are rewritten to use the latest and greatest. IMHO, QuikSync has shown us all how effective specialized hardware can be. At the end of the day, what is going to be important for us (assuming we're using updated programs) today is AVX performance, not x87 performance.

 

[bridito]

Oops.. I mean't N2O... fail chemistry.

And you'd want LN2 on your chip

Actually don't they use NO2 (nitrogen dioxide) for CPU cooling or is it always straight liquid nitrogen?

 

[Tuna-Fish]

I doubt SB will be, but I believe this is where we are going, and it is a good thing unless you have a legacy program that also needs tons of power. But usually those are rewritten to use the latest and greatest. IMHO, QuikSync has shown us all how effective specialized hardware can be. At the end of the day, what is going to be important for us (assuming we're using updated programs) today is AVX performance, not x87 performance.

Unless you are writing your own software, or are using something really specialized, it will take years for AVX to be relevant. Most of the industry is finally using SSE now, and it took about a decade to get this far.

There isn't even that much advantages in plain AVX -- it just gets you nondestructive operations and twice longer vectors. That's ~2x the throughput, and that is simply not enough to make average programmers worry about multiple paths thorough their code for multiple processors. The first version of AVX simply hasn't enough to offer over SSE4 to make most people even think about it before practically every processor out there has it.

AVX2, coming with Haswell, adds gather, which is a big deal. Frankly, I see little real adoption of AVX before that. Gather can really speed up many tasks (orders of magnitude), and makes many kinds of autovectorization much simpler.

 

[ydnas7]

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.coolaler.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D268383 look page 11

IVB 2C4T @1.8 is 829sec (1024 wprime)
SB 2C4T @1.8 is 978 sec (1024 wprime)
SB 4C4T @1.8 is 681 sec (1024 wprime)




edited, added SB 4C4T

 

[podspi]

http://translate.google.com/transla...://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=268383 look page 11

IVB 2C4T @1.8 is 829sec (1024 wprime)
SB 2C4T @1.8 is 978 sec (1024 wprime)

Um, wow. Didn't somebody mention that his SB i3 looked a little slow? If this is indicative of overall performance increases... That's like another jump from Nehalem --> SB !

I doubt it, but at the very least this ES looks healthy :thumbsup:

 

[KingstonU]

not unless BD gets delayed to next summer.

Don't speak of such things!!! D:

 

[bridito]

Don't speak of such things!!! D:

There's supposed to be a living breathing BD at a Dallas expo next week. Should be very interesting to see if anyone can manage to do a real benchy on it!

 

[AdamK47]

Gotta love Google translate: "To move the sofa, take chicken and stinky test"

I've always had to eat chicken and take a stinky test before moving a sofa. It won't work otherwise.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Nice rig brother... Are we gonna do 32GB RAM for Windows 8 lol

Thanks!

I usually like to max out whatever mobo I have...so if SNB-E comes out anytime soon, then hell yeah! If not, I'm waiting for IVB-E or HSW-E...

 

[bridito]

Thanks!

I usually like to max out whatever mobo I have...so if SNB-E comes out anytime soon, then hell yeah! If not, I'm waiting for IVB-E or HSW-E...

In precisely the same situation. If BD turns out to be a letdown that can't even match up to a 2600K (hate to say it but that's where my money is right now), here is my "expected" build:

SB-E Quad
Silar Mobo
8x4 GB RAM
64 GB SSD Boot + 128 GB SSD Data (Vertex 3 but open to whatever is fast and stable by build date, and yes, that's way more data capacity than I use as I back up everything on offline/offsite 1TB drives)

Now if SB-E has decent IGP I'll stick with them (I don't game, etc.) and then try to build the system with only a single moving part: the HSF fan! And I want a "money is no object" supersilent one! No case fans as side cover is always off. Tending to Noctua NH-D14, but also open to whatever is the most effective HSF at build date... which right now looks like it won't be until late January at the earliest! :'(

Suggestions welcomed!!!!!!!

 

[dma0991]

Now if SB-E has decent IGP I'll stick with them (I don't game, etc.)
Suggestions welcomed!!!!!!!

Yes, a discrete GPU. SB-E is strictly a CPU only and IIANM there will not be an IGP on the die.

 

[bridito]

Yes, a discrete GPU. SB-E is strictly a CPU only and IIANM there will not be an IGP on the die.

Ah! Thanks for the info. I was misinformed into thinking SB-E had IGP. OK, that means that now I'd really appreciate any suggestions on a passive cooled video card. Again, I don't need super gaming or 3D performance. I have a 27" 1920x1080 and to the right hand side at 45 degrees I have a 22" 1680x1050 on a single extended desktop. By all means we can take this conversation out of here and plunk it into Video Cards & Graphics section as I don't want to hijack this thread!

 

[dma0991]

Ah! Thanks for the info. I was misinformed into thinking SB-E had IGP. OK, that means that now I'd really appreciate any suggestions on a passive cooled video card. Again, I don't need super gaming or 3D performance. I have a 27" 1920x1080 and to the right hand side at 45 degrees I have a 22" 1680x1050 on a single extended desktop. By all means we can take this conversation out of here and plunk it into Video Cards & Graphics section as I don't want to hijack this thread!

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/22802-powercolor-rolls-out-passive-hd-6850

This.

 

[bridito]

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/22802-powercolor-rolls-out-passive-hd-6850

This.

Gorgeous! I love the fact it's got two DVI for the monitors and an HDMI so that I might be able to set up my TV through it. Thanks! Strange that:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...+6850&x=9&y=27

Seems to have exactly the same unit priced VERY differently! :\