COOLER MASTER GeminII FAR + shipping

QuixoticOne

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Thanks, in for two. (rebate limit = three).

I've got one running on a Q6600-G0 @ 3GHz and it's keeping it
very adequately cool; I am sure I could clock it higher, though I haven't
had occasion to do it yet.

It's a real pain in the rear to install, but if you do everything perfectly
the first time (especially the paste application and right tensioning of the
heatsink mounting nuts), it should be OK and hopefully you won't have
to touch the PC again for years.

It's so big it probably will get in the way of your RAM slot access for
inserting/removing sticks, so you'll have to install the RAM before the HS.

The motherboard has to be taken out of the case with the CPU & paste &
RAM installed to install the HS bolt's nuts on the back of the motherboard.

Mine didn't need lapping, though if someone's heatsink does, you better
not take off more than about 1mm-2mm of metal since there's only
a thin amount of metal that comes down as the heatsink base to start with.

Use a credit card edge to spread a quite thin quite even layer of AS5 or
Ceramique out all over the CPU IHS and that'll work OK in my opinion.
It's not the Arctic Silver suggested technique for those pastes, though, so YMMV.

Jab-tech has some Yate-Loon D12SL 120MM fans that give about 43CFM (IIRC)
for cheap (like $4 or so each). They're working for me in a P180B with the
GeminiII.



EDIT: Oh, yeah, you better check to see if it gets in the way of any cables
before you screw it in. I couldn't easily attach a couple of fans to the
motherboard fan headers on a P5K-E with this cooler installed.

Similarly I had trouble getting the 4-pin 12V or 8-pin 12V power connections
to the motherboard in a P180B with a TRIO-650 PSU and P180B case.

Actually the 8-pin power just wouldn't fit no matter what, but the 4-pin 12V
cpu power cable just barely fit when wrapped around the back of the motherboard
plate as the P180B lets you do.

I'm sure I've probably got some other "tight or impossible fit" cable headers
and obstructed motherboard components using this cooler, but I've got
everything connected some way or other to suit my present needs.

I think it took me a couple of hours to really do the CPU/paste/cooler/
motherboard assembly / power cable part of the install and needed help
for holding the cooler to the MB while I bolted it in. It's very tedious / critical
type of work to get it all just right the first time without any accidents or
missed steps.

My Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme was MUCH easier to install (though it
needed lapping where the Gemini I have did not), much less "in the way",
significantly lighter, and cools better, though that's a $65
cooler, and this is under $10 after rebate, and they perform comparably for
a light to moderate overclock, but the Gemini can't keep up for heavy overclocking.

You'll need a moderately long magnetic screwdriver to get a couple of
the motherboard screws in with this cooler sticking up right next to them.

I wouldn't try this cooler in any case smaller than a P180B or Sonata 1.0,
between it and a big graphics card and a few drives and the needed cables
you'll REALLY be pressed for room in these cases.
 

RideFree

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For $7 shipping you ought to have at least one of these to play with...
Outstanding deal on maybe the highest end air!
 

Lurker1

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Thanks for the write up QuixoticOne, that makes my decision to pass much easier. I was looking at it and thinking wow, that looks big. You just confirmed it.
 

Elfear

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Originally posted by: QuixoticOne

My Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme was MUCH easier to install (though it
needed lapping where the Gemini I have did not), much less "in the way",
significantly lighter, and cools better, though that's a $65
cooler, and this is under $10 after rebate, and they perform comparably for
a light to moderate overclock, but the Gemini can't keep up for heavy overclocking.

Can you quantify how much better the Ultra Extreme cooled your chip? I'm hearing some widely varying results with these two coolers. Some people have tested and found the Ultra Extreme to be a 2-4 degrees better and some (like Anandtech), see 10-15 degree difference.
 

Replay

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As big as this cooler looks, it gets even larger when two 120mm fans are added on top. Cooling performance with quiet fans is ok, not spectacular. But the potential is there to use stronger fans and go for the limits.

Tried one out first in an old Antec SL1600 case, which is just barely big enough for an ATX board. This cooler fit, but blocked access to many of the drive bays, and was very close to the case exhaust fan. Moved it to a larger case and it works fine.

Cooler Master recently got a bunch of rebates from me, so I'm holding off on buying more, for now.
 

moparacer

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Just took one out of the box tonight and mocked it up on a IP35-E in a coolermaster RC 690 case...Its BIG looks like it will fit ok and I can still get to the power supply hookups and fan headers.

The E2180 and 120mm Yate Loons will be here tomorrow so I hope I see 3gig+ on air!
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: moparacer
Just took one out of the box tonight and mocked it up on a IP35-E in a coolermaster RC 690 case...Its BIG looks like it will fit ok and I can still get to the power supply hookups and fan headers.

The E2180 and 120mm Yate Loons will be here tomorrow so I hope I see 3gig+ on air!

The beauty of this cooler is the ability to blow cold air directly over the PWM heat sink and RAMs. The NB heat sink will also benefit. You can slide the fan support bracket along the two rails for optimum placement.

This CPU cooler should rival the performance of the best tower cooler when used with two medium speed Panaflos.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Done with the 1st phase of my test. This Gemini II cooler with two medium speed 120 x 38mm Panaflos outperforms my Big Typhoon/medium speed 120 x 38mm Panaflo by 3C! This is on par with the Ultra 120.

Plenty of air flow to PWM, NB, RAMs, and SB if CPU cooler is positioned horizontally. It is also possible to re-orient the cooler vertically to cool the GPU. There will be reduced air flow @ PWM, NB, RAMs, and SB. This is the best downdraft CPU cooler that has crossed by test bench.

NOTE: I use the Big Typhoon's support bracket to secure the Gemini II. Have to cut one of the BT's mounting bolt by 1.5cm to clear a heat pipe. The Gemini II 775 bracket comes with four pre-installed screws. These screws use left-handed threads. Therefore, you must turn clockwise to remove them if you plan to use an after-market back plate system.
 

cubeless

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since u r playing with it, do u find a difference between having it 'upsidedown' (tubes up instead of down)? just wondering if orientation would matter much...
 

konakona

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not to rain on your parade, but I have noticed waaaay to many rebates from CM as of late. seriuosly, how many of those rebate submissions are really going to be fulfilled? a part of me wanting to post this has sour grapes all over but I sure hope you guys get your rebates. good luck!
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: cubeless
since u r playing with it, do u find a difference between having it 'upsidedown' (tubes up instead of down)? just wondering if orientation would matter much...

No difference here with the CPU temp. PWM temp went up due to reduced air flow.
 

konakona

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oh wow
I am glad I posted that, now I will be jumping on future CM rebate deals like these
 

SerpentRoyal

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Another update...there appears to be very little gain in cooling performance with the addition of a second medium speed 120 x 38mm Panaflo. With only one Panaflo directly above the CPU, the temp went up by less than 1C. I would consider this as noise since my test setup is accurate to within 1C.
 
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