Coolermaster Stacker 830

TantrumusMaximus

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Alright I should have it tomorrow waiting can't wait to check out the possibilities of this highly rated case. Going to go water cooling on it in a couple months once I do the research on what products are out there.

Also ordered the CM Crossflow fan (Which was kind of difficult to find the case and that fan at one vendor for a decent price) right after I ordered it and went back to the site it was listed as out of stock so I think I got the last one.

My Lian-Li PC-V1000 is a very nice case but it is just too cramped and have a friend who got it cheap.
 

Skott

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Looking forward to your review once you have it all set up. Especially interested in fan noise levels.
 

TantrumusMaximus

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I'll put some stuff up on it.

The Lian Li is quality bar none and looks real nice however it gets a little warm with 2 6800GT's in there. The second board get's quite warm.... the top one.

The next thing that bugs me is I have a 680W Thermaltake PSU that is a little longer than norm and I had to dremel out the wall that seperates the HD area from the PSU area.... and it was "still" cramped. Real nice case I like the layout but wished I had ordered the 1200 instead of the 1000.... but even then I'd still have the temp issue. I don't think this style case does SLI well at all from a thermal perspective... maybe with a top exaust 120mm fan blowhole it would do well. But not the way it's designed now.

Wife called me at work and the case is waiting for me at home. I'll take some pics as I go even though there are a million pics of this case I know I myself like firsthand pics from real users vs. just review sites.

 

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Originally posted by: TantrumusMaximus
I'll put some stuff up on it.

The Lian Li is quality bar none and looks real nice however it gets a little warm with 2 6800GT's in there. The second board get's quite warm.... the top one.

The next thing that bugs me is I have a 680W Thermaltake PSU that is a little longer than norm and I had to dremel out the wall that seperates the HD area from the PSU area.... and it was "still" cramped. Real nice case I like the layout but wished I had ordered the 1200 instead of the 1000.... but even then I'd still have the temp issue. I don't think this style case does SLI well at all from a thermal perspective... maybe with a top exaust 120mm fan blowhole it would do well. But not the way it's designed now.

Wife called me at work and the case is waiting for me at home. I'll take some pics as I go even though there are a million pics of this case I know I myself like firsthand pics from real users vs. just review sites.

Interesting. I am a loyal fan to lian lis and I am really considering upgrading to the v2xxx series. I really like the numerious hd bays and the bottom placement of the powersupply unit. But you are giving me second thoughts about the case. I was also considering trying out that thermaltake that was recently reveiwed on anandtech as well. I am going to watercool the case and really want a true full tower case with lots of room for hardrives.
 

TantrumusMaximus

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The 2000 over the 1000 may be viable as it's much more roomy. If you are going to watercool your case you'll probably be alright with the 2000. I've seen some pics of watercooled PC-V1000's and they all looked cramped as hell. My biggest gripe since I'm not using H20 was airflow which kind of sucks in the 1000 because the first thing the intake passes over is a bunch of HD's then where does that air go from there? I really LOVE the layout of the Lian-Li PC-V1000 and 2000 but question the air flow as I had tons of heat issues with the 1000. The Lian-Li's above both should have a top blow hole. I'm sure this would have solved my issues but I saw the 830 and couldn't resist.

I built my Stacker CM 830 Last night and took some pics, brought the CF card to work with me and forgot a reader DOH! So I'll post some initial thoughts and experiences here until I can get the pics up.

The Good:
Hot Looks. This is probably the most visually pleasing case I've ever looked at IMHO.

Airflow is Insane! (The reason I bought it.) 120mm Top exaust, 4 possible 120mm side fans (or 2 120mm and a crossflow fan), 120mm rear exaust, up to 3 front 120mm intake fans, the front intake fans are attached to the 4in1 drive module so you'd need to have 2 more for 3 intake fans which IMHO would be overkill.) Also to note even with my top, rear and crossflow fan.. the system was fairly quiet. 120mm fans are pretty quiet though anyhow. After playing WoW for about 4 hours I touched the case and it was still cool to the touch and my Opty 165 was running at 2.7 and I could even leave my fingers on the GPU NV5 Silencers on both boards. I could not do that before. I'm not going to start posting temperatures as I know for sure this case is doing a "far" better job at keeping my system workable.

Completely reversable. If you like the cases like the one I am getting rid of that open from the right side where the CPU is towards the bottom BTX style you can do that just by taking the motherboard tray out and putting it back in on the other side. Everything on this case is a mirror of itself (which also is a weakness described below.)

Plenty of room. Nothing hangs over the motherboard at all. It can accomodate a PC Power & Cooling 1000W SLI PSU very easily (if you were inclined to buy one )

Completely tooless. The 5 1/4" drive locks worked as advertised. The front 5 1/4" faceplates were real easy to remove once I discovered the to little thin doors (very clever) that run the length of the whole front along side of each faceplate. All you do is open them and there are two easily pryable clips to remove the faceplate.

Interfaces: Lots of external ports and well placed. 4 USB (2 top, 2 front at top), 1 FW on top and 2 audio (I won't be using as I got the Platinum X-Fi breakout box installed.)

Extras: I can't mention them all but there are alot of extras included such as extra faceplates, extra 5 1/4" drive locks, a floppy faceplate, a couple 3 1/2" drive kits and a BTX kit.

Ease to work with... The easiest case I've ever built a PC with.

The Bad:
As seen in other reviews I had a damaged piece of plastic that made one of the magnets fall out of the front door. I didn't notice this until I wanted to reverse the hinges. Luckily one of the other parts could be used to do this and I could get the magnet back in place. (More on this when I can post pics.)

The cable management really kind of sucks due to the fact the case is a mirror image of itself CM couldn't build anything in for cable management. You really have to be creative on the cable management. I haven't taken the time to do this yet.

It's a heavy ass case if you care about that.

The non-aluminum parts on the bezel really have a less than stellar paint job... lots of lil dull spots in the paint surface. I first thought some cleaning would fix but it's just a bad paint job or perhaps no clear coat was used (not my expertise.)

Contrary to the reviews the side panels are NOT easy to put back on. I had to try a few times each time.... I feel that the machining is so exact that it may take a few times to wear the joints so it is easier.

Due to the curvyness of the case it's really not that easily modable. Also the idea of watercooling is probably not that valid with this one if you planned on hanging an external radiator. If you're planning to watercool the Thai Chi is a better choice.

EDIT:
One more nasty is even using the supplied standoffs I had difficulty getting the cards to seat all the way. They seated fine towards the inside but not by the end where you fasten it in. I've only encountered this in some cheaper cases.



Final Thoughts:
I love this case and it exeeded my expectations for airflow and just looking damn cool. It's big and bulky so make sure you got the room for it as it's real deep. With everything installed it feels like your carrying a 19" CRT. Funny... I just got a Dell 2405 and don't have to tote my 21" CRT anymore but now I have a enormous case to tote to LAN parties..... OH WELL! Do I think it's really worth the $250+ for it..... not really..... more in the $175 range would be much more realistic. The Lian-Li cases really are higher quality. I think the bill comes from the R&D that went into it as it does have a lot of innovative features. If you plan on air cooling and overclocking and want a lot of room to grow as well as a badass looking case look no further! I'm going to contradict myself in another thread and say that if you are planning on watercooling go with a flatter edged conventional roomy case. You can do watercooling no prob with this one but it's kind of an oxymoron with all the air-cooling built into it. Lastly I really wish the power button wasn't right on top and lit up all blue as my 2 year old loves to turn off my pc on me now!
 

Skott

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Good creative cable management is a must for any case IMO but some cases do make it easier to do I admit. I was reading that review of the TaiCh vs CM830 yesterday and found it interesting. I was concerned when the reviewer said the CM case didnt have a top fan, just an air vent. I hope this was a fluke and not something CM plans to do with this case. The top vent & fan is one of its selling points to me.

The reviewer mentioned some shavings from the pullout mobo tray indicating it may loosen over time. Did you notice this on your case?

The TaiChi price is pretty high so IMO for that kind of money it should be the best case. Personally between the two cases I prefer the CM830 so I'm looking forward to using it in my next build. I'm not into watercooling so it'll fit my needs perfectly. I just hope CM doesnt take away that top fan. I also agree it would be better if they marketed it for $199 or less.
 

TantrumusMaximus

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Yeah the top fan is there 120mm. And no I didn't experience the shavings I was wondering about that from the review and looked for them. I think personally they didn't take their time putting it back in. You can put it in kind of cock-eyed and possibly but up against some metal but I avoided that when I saw it.

As for the cable management the tough part is since it is such a versatile case it is truely a mirror of itself in every way so you can reverse everything to open from the other side and put the 4 fan door on the other side etc.... so they couldn't assume that the case would always be opened from one side and plan the cable management in the extra room on the other side of the case so it's strength of versatility becomes a weakness but it's a fair trade off as you just have to spend a little more time with it.

See my edit above I forgot one important negative in my experience last night.
 

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The funny thing is..... for a while the Tai Chi was a little cheaper than the 830. ZZF had it for $299 plus a $50 rebate, bringing the price down to $249 after rebate. I almost bought one then, but I missed the rebate by a day. I just got another TJ07 instead.
 

Skott

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TM,
The reviewer didnt mention this problem in his build so it might be just a fluke in your case. Hopefully its not common problem anyway. Nice review btw.
 

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I'm happy with my "cheap" antec P-180, but was wondering about these super cases, especially the Tai Chi.

Does all that external HS-like fin stuff really do anything? I mean I don't really see how heat is transferred to the case chassy. The only intereface is hot air (not a good conductor) and the motherboard mountings. It seems like a big waste to me.

Then again, I've never had a case get much hotter than ambient anyway, and can't imagine I ever will as I have no plans of any crazy SLI system or anything.

I was just curiouse to hear from the horses' mouths so to speak since you guys actually have real experience with these kinds of extreme cases.
 
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Originally posted by: Mixman
The funny thing is..... for a while the Tai Chi was a little cheaper than the 830. ZZF had it for $299 plus a $50 rebate, bringing the price down to $249 after rebate. I almost bought one then, but I missed the rebate by a day. I just got another TJ07 instead.

OMG, you have 2 freakin tj07's?!?!??!?!

i have a tj03 and i back stop drooling over the 07.
so which is better? the silver or black?
 

Pr0phetX

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hey forget about the silverstone case this is about the stacker 830. im anxios to see some pics on how the crossflow fan mounts on this thing. I need to know if i should order 1 or 2.
 

Skott

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He's probably too busy happily gaming with that fine rig of his. ::chuckle::
 

Pr0phetX

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haha i know. Well i just placed my order for my stacker 830. so ill post pics when i get it. and i also bought the crossflow fan.
 

Skott

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Originally posted by: Pr0phetX
haha i know. Well i just placed my order for my stacker 830. so ill post pics when i get it. and i also bought the crossflow fan.



Cool. Looking forward to your pics.
 

TantrumusMaximus

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Yes sorry... I'm a WoW addict and for any of you that play WoW and pvp with any plans of high ranks you know how crazy that gets heheeh. I was going to post the orig pics I took but decided they blew donkey chunks. Going to take some better more detailed ones and post. I'll make sure to show the CF fan. Suprisingly it doesn't really push air too forcefully like I expected....it pushes the air kinda softly across the whole mb which is pretty good and it's not nearly as noisy as people made it sound on high (which is how I run it.)

Anyhow I'll get pics up!
 

Skott

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Yeah, I definetly wanna see how that crossflow fan looks. If you can get some temp measurements that would be sweet too!
 

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EDIT:
One more nasty is even using the supplied standoffs I had difficulty getting the cards to seat all the way. They seated fine towards the inside but not by the end where you fasten it in. I've only encountered this in some cheaper cases.




I put my 830 together and had this very problem. It is a known issue and they are supposed to send out replacement PCI brackets for this. I found a few threads about it at CM site.
 

corsa

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Had a pc built for a cousin of mine using Stacker 830/Asus Premium...same problem arose with his Leadtek 7600gt not sitting flush into the board. What we found was that u need to bend in the rear of the case in toward the motherboard slightly and the card will fit as it should, dead into the slot...problem solved.
 

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The G70s make a very good alternative to the V2000s, in case anyone cares. Perfect for watercooling, and 120mm fans galore

(And by perfect, I mean plenty of room to install a radiator at the top of the case .... and lots of exhaust )
 

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Originally posted by: Pr0phetX
hey forget about the silverstone case this is about the stacker 830. im anxios to see some pics on how the crossflow fan mounts on this thing. I need to know if i should order 1 or 2.

But the TJ07 is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH sexier. Even i would give up my ARMOR for a TJ07.

 
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