Cop abuse incident in Texas

[rudeguy]

Oh! Is there a separate vid where he draws on the girl? Link?

I've only watched the one in the OP.

Are you saying he drew because of the people that ran up AFTER he slammed the 100 pound girl into the cement making a thud you can hear on camera? The ones who were trying to make sure the cop that was freaking out didn't kill the girl? The ones who never laid a hand on the cop, tried to hurt the cop, didn't threaten the cop? Because he kind of points at one of them, then kind of points towards the ground, then goes back into Robocop mode, then realizes he has a gun in his hand and holsters it.

Now please tell me what life threatening situation he was in that warranted drawing his gun.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I've only watched the one in the OP.

Are you saying he drew because of the people that ran up AFTER he slammed the 100 pound girl into the cement making a thud you can hear on camera? The ones who were trying to make sure the cop that was freaking out didn't kill the girl? The ones who never laid a hand on the cop, tried to hurt the cop, didn't threaten the cop? Because he kind of points at one of them, then kind of points towards the ground, then goes back into Robocop mode, then realizes he has a gun in his hand and holsters it.

Now please tell me what life threatening situation he was in that warranted drawing his gun.

and please add if the other cops that were with him did not do their jobs correctly because none of them drew guns. Should the other cops have drawn too? Should the other cops be disciplined because they didn't protect the clown right?

I've been thinking about this today, I bet officer combat roll was a pain in the ass guy and not liked because it appears nobody on that Police force stood by him. They all jumped ship . Makes me say he was not liked too much in the office.

 

[boomerang]

Officer Casebolt, at the start of his shift one hour prior to the incident being discussed, first responded to the scene of an African American father that had committed suicide in front of family and other people at his apartment pool. He spend time there assisting and consoling the man's wife. In his second call of his shift he helped in talking a young girl off the roof of her house who was intent on committing suicide.

His third call was to the melee at the pool. No suicides here and nothing more than hurt feelings. But due to the death threats through email and phone calls he resigned.

 

[Blanky]

I've only watched the one in the OP.

Are you saying he drew because of the people that ran up AFTER he slammed the 100 pound girl into the cement making a thud you can hear on camera? The ones who were trying to make sure the cop that was freaking out didn't kill the girl? The ones who never laid a hand on the cop, tried to hurt the cop, didn't threaten the cop? Because he kind of points at one of them, then kind of points towards the ground, then goes back into Robocop mode, then realizes he has a gun in his hand and holsters it.

Now please tell me what life threatening situation he was in that warranted drawing his gun.

You can't hear a "thud". Honestly you sound hysterical. Nobody ever thought he was going to beat this girl to death, please.

 

[Blanky]

I will be happy to come back to this thread and admit I am a fool when casebolt is convicted on something. If he is this wild gun wielding maniac some of you portray him to be it shouldn't be a problem to get a conviction on excessive use of force or some other charge.

 

[boomerang]

The "Dime Piece" organizers have said they were under the impression that the pool was a part of the reservation. From what I've read, the club house is right next to the pool. Everyone came with bathing suits. There was a miscommunication somewhere along the line. IMO, the organizers did not have enough security to properly control the large number of people their event drew.

Yeah, I've read some of that. Here's what we know about the mother and daughter organizers of the event.

One or both are entrepreneurs - yay!
One or both are essentially pimps - boo!
Neither anticipated the consequences of their actions. Actions that led to this mess, which really isn't one unless you're officer Casebolt. No injuries, just some hurt feelings.

It's yet another distraction from the really serious issues our country is facing. Like a secret trade agreement that Paul Ryan says has to be passed so we can find out what's in it. But I can certainly see where "Dime Girls" has a bigger draw. I'm not so old myself that I can't appreciate an attractive girl in a bikini and frankly I hope I never am too old.

 

[rudeguy]

and please add if the other cops that were with him did not do their jobs correctly because none of them drew guns. Should the other cops have drawn too? Should the other cops be disciplined because they didn't protect the clown right?

I've been thinking about this today, I bet officer combat roll was a pain in the ass guy and not liked because it appears nobody on that Police force stood by him. They all jumped ship . Makes me say he was not liked too much in the office.

I never noticed the cop at the beginning until I watched it again. I am guilty of scrolling ahead until the action starts. I actually felt bad for the cop the kid handed the flashlight to. He was being totally calm, trying to figure out what in the fuck was going on and the other cop was...freaking out doesn't even do it justice. And its not like the cops were busting up a gang fight. It was a damn pool party. The most they were going to do was write a bunch of trespass notices. If I were one of those cops, I'd want as many of those kids to go away on their own as possible.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I will be happy to come back to this thread and admit I am a fool when casebolt is convicted on something. If he is this wild gun wielding maniac some of you portray him to be it shouldn't be a problem to get a conviction on excessive use of force or some other charge.

I'm not saying that however I am saying he was wrong, he deserved to be investigated and disciplined. Quitting was his choice.

 

[rudeguy]

I will be happy to come back to this thread and admit I am a fool when casebolt is convicted on something. If he is this wild gun wielding maniac some of you portray him to be it shouldn't be a problem to get a conviction on excessive use of force or some other charge.

You don't get it, do you?

The reason so many of us point these stories out is because its so rare that a cop is actually charged. If every illegal act a cop committed resulted in charges, none of us would be pointing these things out because the police would be policing themselves like they should be. Instead the SOP is to minimize the cop's actions and attack the victims.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Officer Casebolt, at the start of his shift one hour prior to the incident being discussed, first responded to the scene of an African American father that had committed suicide in front of family and other people at his apartment pool. He spend time there assisting and consoling the man's wife. In his second call of his shift he helped in talking a young girl off the roof of her house who was intent on committing suicide.

His third call was to the melee at the pool. No suicides here and nothing more than hurt feelings. But due to the death threats through email and phone calls he resigned.

Bravo! You win. You are dead set on siding with officer barrel roll.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It's yet another distraction from the really serious issues our country is facing. Like a secret trade agreement that Paul Ryan says has to be passed so we can find out what's in it. But I can certainly see where "Dime Girls" has a bigger draw. I'm not so old myself that I can't appreciate an attractive girl in a bikini and frankly I hope I never am too old.

I so agree with you here and yes Obama likes it too. I cannot trust anything being passed on fast track because it shifts the blame to either a President that is no longer in office or nobody if the deal ends up being shit like most of our past deals.

 

[BoberFett]

and please add if the other cops that were with him did not do their jobs correctly because none of them drew guns. Should the other cops have drawn too? Should the other cops be disciplined because they didn't protect the clown right?

I've been thinking about this today, I bet officer combat roll was a pain in the ass guy and not liked because it appears nobody on that Police force stood by him. They all jumped ship . Makes me say he was not liked too much in the office.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The back story is interesting. (No pun intended)

McKinney Pool Party Organizer, Tatyana Rhodes, Lawyers Up - Likely Trying To Avoid Civil Liability
Dime piece refers to 13, 14, and 15 year old girls that Tatyana feels are a perfect 10. She likes these girls at the parties she puts on because it helps sell tickets to her money making events, "Make It Clap". Clap refers to either the sounds the female butt makes when twerking or the sounds produced when doing it doggy style. This party was to promote Make It Clap 2 which was to be held on June 19th.

So, despite having no permission to use the pool for her promotional party, she advertised the party as a pool party. But hey, when your 'dime girls' show up in bikini's, I would imagine it's a lot easier to sell tickets to your money making venture.

We know the rest.

What does any of the above have to do with the out of control behavior of Casebolt? Oh, wait, I remember. It has absolutely nothing to do with Casebolt's behaviour.

"The actions of Eric Casebolt are indefensible," Police Chief Greg Conley said, calling the officer "out of control during the incident."

"I had 12 officers on the scene, and 11 of them performed according to their training," Conley said."

http://www.khou.com/story/news/loca...n-mckinney-pool-party-video-resigns/70997364/

"Chief Conley said, “As the Chief of Police I want to say to our community that the actions of Casebolt, as seen on the video of the disturbance at the community pool, are indefensible.”

The Chief went on to say, “Our polices, our training our practice do not support his actions. He came into the call out of control and as the video shows was out of control during the incident. I had 12 officers on the scene and 11 of them performed according to their training. They did an excellent job.”


http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/06/09/...-at-center-of-pool-party-controversy-resigns/

 

[boomerang]

Bravo! You win. You are dead set on siding with officer barrel roll.

So I won, eh? What does or doesn't happen to him at this point won't make one scintilla of a difference in my life. I think you're just peeved because I showed a peek at the human side of him. And I'm fully convinced that you have hate for him and all of his brethren running deep in your veins. Whatever. Cop haters gonna hate cops as sure as the sun rises in the East in all of the 57 states. Muh Daddy hated cops and I hate them there motherfuckers too! Learned behavior, nothing more.

Just out of curiosity, what crimes do you feel he's guilty of?

 

[OutHouse]

I heard somewhere the officer had two complaints from 2007, one for racial profiling, and one for excessive use of force. Don't know if true or not, can't remember where i heard it.

so in other words you heard something bad about somebody and instead of finding out if its true you open your filthy sewer to spread what could be false information.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Untrue. Watch the video. Why exactly do you think he drew his gun when he did and point it toward the person he did?

Maybe you should ask the Chief.

"The actions of Eric Casebolt are indefensible," Police Chief Greg Conley said, calling the officer "out of control during the incident."

"I had 12 officers on the scene, and 11 of them performed according to their training," Conley said."

http://www.khou.com/story/news/local...igns/70997364/

"Chief Conley said, “As the Chief of Police I want to say to our community that the actions of Casebolt, as seen on the video of the disturbance at the community pool, are indefensible.”

The Chief went on to say, “Our polices, our training our practice do not support his actions. He came into the call out of control and as the video shows was out of control during the incident. I had 12 officers on the scene and 11 of them performed according to their training. They did an excellent job.”


http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/06/09/m...versy-resigns/

 

[JSt0rm]

So you agree they acted like fools but earlier referred to it as simply black culture. Your words.

your fucking impossible. Trying to twist my words into some weird fucked up thing will only work inside you dumb head. I cant believe you people have the time in the day to make inane arguments like this. Back to work.

 

[Darwin333]

I dont get my hopes up. But until police are truly held accountable, things will continue to escalate. How he treated those kids is one thing. That should be an internal thing. But he pulled his gun on unarmed kids who were not a threat. That tells everyone who watches that video that police are ready, willing and able to use deadly force just because they aren't in control.

I couldn't agree more bud but imho after seeing so many of incidents like this in which the cop got nothing more than paid vacation, this is at least a baby step. At the very least it's not the status quo.

 

[Darwin333]

Officer Casebolt, at the start of his shift one hour prior to the incident being discussed, first responded to the scene of an African American father that had committed suicide in front of family and other people at his apartment pool. He spend time there assisting and consoling the man's wife. In his second call of his shift he helped in talking a young girl off the roof of her house who was intent on committing suicide.

That sucks, it truly does and it definitely takes a toll on a persons mental well being. I'm not sure if cops have the ability to say "I've had enough for today, can I go and do some paperwork or something" or not but imho they should. Regardless, he is in a position of authority and as such needs to maintain his composure at all times while on the job.

His third call was to the melee at the pool. No suicides here and nothing more than hurt feelings. But due to the death threats through email and phone calls he resigned.

Considering what his boss publicly said about him it is just as likely that he was asked to resign.

 

[Darwin333]

I've only watched the one in the OP.

Are you saying he drew because of the people that ran up AFTER he slammed the 100 pound girl into the cement making a thud you can hear on camera? The ones who were trying to make sure the cop that was freaking out didn't kill the girl? The ones who never laid a hand on the cop, tried to hurt the cop, didn't threaten the cop? Because he kind of points at one of them, then kind of points towards the ground, then goes back into Robocop mode, then realizes he has a gun in his hand and holsters it.

Now please tell me what life threatening situation he was in that warranted drawing his gun.

You know, if he was alone on the scene or even had just one other officer there I could understand him being very nervous in that situation. However, he had a fuckton of backup. Even if they did grab the cop his 11 or 12 buddies would have been tasering the fuck out of them in seconds. If they went for his gun that kid would have been ventilated before he got it out of the holster by said buddies. Taken out of context they make a somewhat legitimate argument but when you put it into the context of how much backup he had their argument falls apart.

The argument all these folks are making is completely devoid of context.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

So I won, eh? What does or doesn't happen to him at this point won't make one scintilla of a difference in my life. I think you're just peeved because I showed a peek at the human side of him. And I'm fully convinced that you have hate for him and all of his brethren running deep in your veins. Whatever. Cop haters gonna hate cops as sure as the sun rises in the East in all of the 57 states. Muh Daddy hated cops and I hate them there motherfuckers too! Learned behavior, nothing more.

Just out of curiosity, what crimes do you feel he's guilty of?

lol, what a funny little man you are. I have no hatred of cops per-say, but I do loathe cops that flaunt their authority, operate beyond the scope of acceptable procedures and then blame it on having a bad day.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

your fucking impossible. Trying to twist my words into some weird fucked up thing will only work inside you dumb head. I cant believe you people have the time in the day to make inane arguments like this. Back to work.

Like I said, the defenders will perform Olympian level linguistic gymnastics to 'prove' their point.

 

[soundforbjt]

so in other words you heard something bad about somebody and instead of finding out if its true you open your filthy sewer to spread what could be false information.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...e-officer-sued-in-2008-for-racial-6316119.php

Judge dismissed the complaints, imagine that...

 

[Blanky]

You don't get it, do you?

The reason so many of us point these stories out is because its so rare that a cop is actually charged. If every illegal act a cop committed resulted in charges, none of us would be pointing these things out because the police would be policing themselves like they should be. Instead the SOP is to minimize the cop's actions and attack the victims.

I do get it and I agree cops are charged far less than they should be. My post actually sucked because there is an onerous burden of proof on convicting cops and we all know it.

 

[Blanky]

your fucking impossible. Trying to twist my words into some weird fucked up thing will only work inside you dumb head. I cant believe you people have the time in the day to make inane arguments like this. Back to work.

I thought you weren't going to engage with me? You took what I said and went off on a crazy tangent. To you anything I say is automatically racist, even if I take issue with a woman who makes sweeping, negative generalizations about an entire race while also calling that same race racist. It's stupid, and so was your response to it. I think your heart is in the right place. The reason I find it easy to annoy you is because I am good at finding the inconsistencies in your logic and showing them back to you. I don't think you're dumb but you are dishonest with yourself. If you stop lying to yourself, you'll find it easier to get a reasoned point across because it will make sense.