Probably because it was bullshit. Look, we all know cops lie and cover for each other and it is despicable, but I will, without contradictory evidence, side with two cops vs a guy who was just stopped for drugs and has them on him, unless we are also to believe they planted drugs on him, too.http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...e-officer-sued-in-2008-for-racial-6316119.php
Judge dismissed the complaints, imagine that...
So a dozen cops called and no charges sounds reasonable?No, I can't, because they don't. I watched the video and don't see them backing away in frame whatsoever. I don't even know which video we're talking about anymore. I go by this one: COPS CRASH POOL PARTY(ORIGINAL)
And once again. One cop grabs him, not two. One != two. One grabs him to let him know he's there before running off to chase the guy he just drew on.And I've seen many LEO on another forum who says he acted reasonably.
Most people think he was overall out of control. I'm saying he didn't draw the gun in a vacuum. With silly comments from rudeguy intimating that he drew on a girl in a bikini, we have demonstrable fallacies invading the matter.
It does in fact look like he slipped, but he did that while rushing aggressively to an outnumbered cop. The rest I won't argue with, but to answer your question the gun drawing seems to be the biggest part of this that gained attention.Someone posted a picture of the guy going into some sort of retarded "shooting stance while reaching for his imaginary weapon", that was him actually stopping himself and starting to go backwards.
So he grabs a guy that was just getting bumrushed who has a weapon drawn to "let him know he was there"? Personally I wouldn't grab a person who couldn't see me who just pulled his weapon because he was in fear for his life of people rushing him. Sounds like a good way to get shot to me.
I'm not saying he drew his gun in a vacuum either and I don't know why you are so fixated on him drawing his gun. His overall actions as a whole show him to be completely out of control. Even if he didn't draw his gun he would have still been an out of control maniac cop who escalated a scene that should have been deescalated. Basically he should have acted like the other 11 officers on the scene.
And no, he didn't draw on the girl. He unnecessarily threw her to the ground more than once and even then didn't get her into the position he wanted, not because she was resisting but because he just fucking sucked.
I do get it and I agree cops are charged far less than they should be. My post actually sucked because there is an onerous burden of proof on convicting cops and we all know it.
I don't disagree at all and that's why I made no commentary other than to relate what transpired. My intent was to let people glean from that what they would.That sucks, it truly does and it definitely takes a toll on a persons mental well being. I'm not sure if cops have the ability to say "I've had enough for today, can I go and do some paperwork or something" or not but imho they should. Regardless, he is in a position of authority and as such needs to maintain his composure at all times while on the job.
He "lost control" and unholstered his weapon and waived it at unarmed people who were not threatening him or a threat at all for that matter.
You don't see the problem with that? You're a gun guy. You know totally unsafe that is. You know that the action of unholstering him weapon by itself is an escalation of force. And this guy didn't even go to low ready, he went to....swing it around ready?
There was no reason to "lose control". People were not trying to hurt him. People were not threatening him. People were trying to get away from a bad situation. His actions were a huge contribution to that bad situation.
I assume you read that here: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/10/us/baltimore-police-officers-interview/index.htmlPeople seem to desire a less aggressive police force. They're getting that in Baltimore right now. Coincidentally, the murder rate along with the rate of major crimes is rising and it's rising dramatically. The same people that were vocalizing about the aggressiveness of the Police are now vocalizing about the complacency of the Police. Some form of middle ground wouldn't make them happy either because at the core of it, they just plain hate cops. So I support the actions of the Baltimore Police Department right now. Better from their perspective to play it safe and greatly reduce their chances for prosecution. At some point enough bad guys will shoot enough of the other bad guys and things will be better for all. It's the journey from point A to point B that's going to be rough. It's a great time to be a Funeral Director in Baltimore though. I guess whether that's a silver lining or not depends on your point of view.
'He did nothing wrong': Florida principal ousted after defending Texas cop...If youre running a majority black school and you say a remark such as that people will not respect you, a student told NBC News in Miami.
But is there a major problem? Or, is it the result of a 24 hour news cycle combined with nearly every individual having the capability to record anything they see? Is there more bad behavior on the part of cops or is it just easier to report on and easier to document? Those are some important distinctions.There is a major problem in police across the country, and video is helping show us that, but we need to be honest, too. And this is one of the stupider cases recently to gain national attention, particularly racial attention.
Had anyone seen this?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/u...e-arrived-at-pool-party-lawyer-says.html?_r=0
Given the above, police departments need to evaluate who they send to potentially volatile situations.
Lame excuse designed to illicit sympathy. Sure it sucks what the officer dealt with previous to the pool party call, but if you can't handle a bunch of teenagers to the point of drawing your sidearm while knowing plenty of fellow officers are on sight, you probably should find another line of work.
It seems pretty obvious that when dealing with a bunch of excitable teenagers that being calm and acting like an adult in attempt to de-escalate the situation is preferable.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...k-people-were-in-the-pool?detail=facebook_sf#
Imagine that. The guy who called the police on these kids is a shitlord of the highest order.
I'll remember that the next time you have a bad day and do something less than perfect. Gotta love liberal compassion.
The fact remains, that police departments may want to look into the potential mental / emotional state of their officers before they get dispatched to a potentially volatile situation.
I'll remember that the next time you have a bad day and do something less than perfect. Gotta love liberal compassion.
The fact remains, that police departments may want to look into the potential mental / emotional state of their officers before they get dispatched to a potentially volatile situation.
I'll remember that the next time you have a bad day and do something less than perfect. Gotta love liberal compassion.
The fact remains, that police departments may want to look into the potential mental / emotional state of their officers before they get dispatched to a potentially volatile situation.
I'll remember that the next time you have a bad day and do something less than perfect. Gotta love liberal compassion.
I think the cop acted inappropriately here. Probably should have been fired (but resigned). However, I have a problem with the amount of media coverage of this case. No one was actually hurt. There are about 100 cases of officer involved killings per year in this country. Only a fraction get national attention. But this case gets national attention.
That case in Oklahoma where the white minister was shot and killed by police last week is in the media but the coverage is far less extensive. Common sense would dictate that an officer involved killing would get more press than an incident of this type.
I think the media whose desire is sensationalism is seizing on every incident it can find involving police actually or allegedly abusing/hurting/killing black people. The element of race makes it incendiary which is why the media is so interested. I know conservatives think it's the media's "liberal bias" but not such explanation is required - the element of race automatically makes it controversial - it causes people of all ethnicities and political persuasions to tune in and read. If race is involved, everyone has an opinion.
Unfortunately the media is aiding and abetting a lot of racial tension in this country right now by giving the impression that there is a wave of racially motivated police violence against blacks, when in fact there have always been some incidents of it, every year, some where the cops are guilty and others where they are not. There's bound to be in a nation with over 2 million law enforcement personnel.
So here we have one cop who was a hot head and shoved some black kids around. Probably should have been disciplined if not fired, and resigned. OK. There are probably worse incidents of police misconduct that occur every week if not every day in America that we don't hear about. I think this incident has gotten as much press as it deserves already, if not too much.
I don't disagree at all and that's why I made no commentary other than to relate what transpired. My intent was to let people glean from that what they would.
I just don't see anything good coming from continually flogging the people that choose to protect us. He screwed up and if he screwed up bad enough he'll pay in probably more ways than one. He's not superman, he's human like the rest of us. Adrenaline is something that can't just be turned off in the blink of an eye. And again, in this case nobody got physically hurt. But these days hurt feelings constitutes a crime worthy of a lawsuit.
People seem to desire a less aggressive police force. They're getting that in Baltimore right now. Coincidentally, the murder rate along with the rate of major crimes is rising and it's rising dramatically. The same people that were vocalizing about the aggressiveness of the Police are now vocalizing about the complacency of the Police. Some form of middle ground wouldn't make them happy either because at the core of it, they just plain hate cops. So I support the actions of the Baltimore Police Department right now. Better from their perspective to play it safe and greatly reduce their chances for prosecution. At some point enough bad guys will shoot enough of the other bad guys and things will be better for all. It's the journey from point A to point B that's going to be rough. It's a great time to be a Funeral Director in Baltimore though. I guess whether that's a silver lining or not depends on your point of view.
So are you saying the cops should have some type of evaluation before every call?
No but if a cop has been through more then they can handle in a days time (hey, it happens especially in their line of work) I think they should be able to voluntarily take themselves off patrol. The last thing any of us need is a cop showing up to a scene who is even slightly mentally unstable due to the previous events of his day. Just like I wouldn't want a doctor to operate on me a few hours after getting a phone call that his kid died.
I'm positive they can cut the rest of the patrol short if they ask for it, but I doubt they often do.No but if a cop has been through more then they can handle in a days time (hey, it happens especially in their line of work) I think they should be able to voluntarily take themselves off patrol. The last thing any of us need is a cop showing up to a scene who is even slightly mentally unstable due to the previous events of his day. Just like I wouldn't want a doctor to operate on me a few hours after getting a phone call that his kid died.
I'm positive they can cut the rest of the patrol short if they ask for it, but I doubt they often do.