Please reread the post that I was responding to. It had nothing to do with the party or the incident, it was about section 8.
when people are climbing over the fence to bypass security guards; that is an indication that something is wrong.
People showing up at a PRIVATE party uninvited is another good indication.
While the interlopers may not have intended trouble; they apparently also refused to leave when asked.
I was taught in firearms safety training that you don't pull your gun and point it at something unless you plan on shooting it. A gun isn't meant to be used to coerce or intimidate someone into doing whatever you want them to do, which is what appears to have happened here. It's meant to be used to neutralize a deadly threat.
I was taught in firearms safety training that you don't pull your gun and point it at something unless you plan on shooting it. A gun isn't meant to be used to coerce or intimidate someone into doing whatever you want them to do, which is what appears to have happened here. It's meant to be used to neutralize a deadly threat.
That is one of the safety rules we use as well. "Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot". Two the men approached him aggressively though, so his intention could have been to shoot if they kept approaching and attacked him. Someone broke down pictures frame by frame where it looked like one male was reaching behind his back, and the officer said gun. Once the officer drew his, they ran and others chased him because they thought he may have a gun. No idea what was said, but the pictures do look like he was reaching behind his back. Point is, without being there, trying to be certain about anything is silly. Not being in their shoes and making conclusions is silly also. But lots of people have an agenda, and they will think however they want. Drawing his gun is not a big deal, he immediately put it away. People calling for him to be prosecuted for it is just idiotic, but also sadly common.
There is so much more to this story that originally portrayed. Different pictures, people who were actually there, etc. This is being blown way out of proportion, but that is what the media does for this type of thing. At least when it appears to be this side of it.
Please reread the post that I was responding to. It had nothing to do with the party or the incident, it was about section 8.
Who exactly tried to sneak it in? Who actually owns the property?
And those facts aren't actually facts.
1.) A lot of the kids lived in the community and so did have a right to be there.
2.) By all accounts the situation occurred and the incident escalated when a grown white woman assaulted and battered some teenagers after calling them racial slurs. I wonder, was she one of the people laying on the floor at gun point?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKnCiew976k
But of course, your bias has already colored whatever facts do exist.
Lol none of what you said is true. The people who live in the community and HOA itself disputes the claims of the family.
I was focusing on your first two sentences.
It sounds like you were talking about the party incident
Obviously civilians have tighter restrictions on when they can draw than police, as they should.I was taught in firearms safety training that you don't pull your gun and point it at something unless you plan on shooting it. A gun isn't meant to be used to coerce or intimidate someone into doing whatever you want them to do, which is what appears to have happened here. It's meant to be used to neutralize a deadly threat.
That is one of the safety rules we use as well. "Never point your weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot". Two the men approached him aggressively though, so his intention could have been to shoot if they kept approaching and attacked him. Someone broke down pictures frame by frame where it looked like one male was reaching behind his back, and the officer said gun. Once the officer drew his, they ran and others chased him because they thought he may have a gun. No idea what was said, but the pictures do look like he was reaching behind his back. Point is, without being there, trying to be certain about anything is silly. Not being in their shoes and making conclusions is silly also. But lots of people have an agenda, and they will think however they want. Drawing his gun is not a big deal, he immediately put it away. People calling for him to be prosecuted for it is just idiotic, but also sadly common.
There is so much more to this story that originally portrayed. Different pictures, people who were actually there, etc. This is being blown way out of proportion, but that is what the media does for this type of thing. At least when it appears to be this side of it.
And do they dispute the images in the video I posted or the interviews with the children who lived there or the white boy who made the video? Again, your bias is affecting your ability to process facts.
It's amazing that you watched a video of an adult beating on a teenager and somehow the word of some people you don't know carried more weight?
You seem to have given every benefit of the doubt to the cop and given every rational to justify his actions. In this country that is not how we expect Police Officers to treat out children (whether they be black or white).
The cop went and grabbed a 14 year old girl, pulled her about 10 ft, threw her on the ground and proceeded to place her knee on her back while waving a gun at other youth who came to help her. And then you wonder why children would lose themselves and try to help her? The cop is lucky there were no parents around or there would have been bigger issues and he may have had to use that gun.
You know why your daughter will never be treated like this? Because I bet she isn't a moron and acts like a fool after being told repeatedly by police to go away.I am the first to call for police to be prosecuted when they break the law. From what I saw the only thing he could reasonably be charged with is potentially minor assault charges and even that is iffy. One thing I am absolutely certain about is that he should lose his job, he has no business being a police officer. His actions could have very well incited a riot and put him and his fellow officers in great danger.
I can only hope that I could keep my cool if I saw my daughter being treated that way but my instinct would be to immediately stop the person hurting my daughter at all cost. It only takes one or two people to start shit for the rest to follow. Cops are supposed to deescalate a scene for their safety and the safety of everyone else. I find it hard to believe any argument that his actions did anything but escalate the situation.
I am the first to call for police to be prosecuted when they break the law. From what I saw the only thing he could reasonably be charged with is potentially minor assault charges and even that is iffy. One thing I am absolutely certain about is that he should lose his job, he has no business being a police officer. His actions could have very well incited a riot and put him and his fellow officers in great danger.
I can only hope that I could keep my cool if I saw my daughter being treated that way but my instinct would be to immediately stop the person hurting my daughter at all cost. It only takes one or two people to start shit for the rest to follow. Cops are supposed to deescalate a scene for their safety and the safety of everyone else. I find it hard to believe any argument that his actions did anything but escalate the situation.
That video shows a woman who us upset about these people violating the HOA rules {and decided to assault and batter a teenager}. Did she use inappropriate language yes. But you provided nothing to show those children live in the actual HOA community.
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Members of a certain politically approved victim group now think it's perfectly acceptable to willfully disobey cops and once confronted with said resistance, resist attempts to get them to stop resisting. Then when the cops do what they typically do (subdue said resistor), member of politically approved victim group whines about police brutality.
Cops are certainly edgy now due to the recent random cop killings. It's easy for all the whiners on this board to talk about what cops 'should do' in any given situation when most of you live a nice comfy safe live provided by your tech job. I'd like to see how some of the whiners on here would react in similar situations.
I'm not saying cops are perfect and should never be criticized. In fact, I know some can be flaming jerks and I've no doubt that some are racist . And yes, there certainly are some that need to be slapped down for their actions. But ffs, when a cop tells you you're trespassing and need to leave, then effing LEAVE! Don't resist! And don't run towards the cop and do things with your effing hands that raise your threat assessment.
Simply put, don't be a dumb-a**!
I don't have an issue with how he acted. It doesn't matter if she was 14 years old, or a girl. She wouldn't listen, and she got subdued. It is really as simple as that. She was not abused, like the thread title states. She was not arrested, she was not hurt. All she had to do was listen, but she didn't. They shouldn't have been there, that has already been established. There was a fight, several people called 911 for the police. Obviously they were a problem. He wasn't waving the gun around, and again it does not matter if they are youths. The two approached him aggressively and he drew his gun. They ran, he put it away. Plenty of youths have committed serious crimes, including murder. You don't think a mob of "children" can cause serious damage? Please. It's not about black or white, yet people such as yourself keep trying to make it one. It is about kids acting like idiots, and not listening when told to leave.
Members of a certain politically approved victim group now think it's perfectly acceptable to willfully disobey cops and once confronted with said resistance, resist attempts to get them to stop resisting. Then when the cops do what they typically do (subdue said resistor), member of politically approved victim group whines about police brutality.
Cops are certainly edgy now due to the recent random cop killings. It's easy for all the whiners on this board to talk about what cops 'should do' in any given situation when most of you live a nice comfy safe live provided by your tech job. I'd like to see how some of the whiners on here would react in similar situations.
I'm not saying cops are perfect and should never be criticized. In fact, I know some can be flaming jerks and I've no doubt that some are racist . And yes, there certainly are some that need to be slapped down for their actions. But ffs, when a cop tells you you're trespassing and need to leave, then effing LEAVE! Don't resist! And don't run towards the cop and do things with your effing hands that raise your threat assessment.
Simply put, don't be a dumb-a**!
And the case was dismissed. The question is how often do cops have such suits brought against them?didn't know the cop was sued for racial bias previously?
http://heavy.com/news/2015/06/eric-...-pull-pants-down-federal-documents-dismissed/
wonder if this had any effect on how much a lunatic this office was and his reactions to all those violent dangerous black thugs.
I don't have an issue with how he acted. It doesn't matter if she was 14 years old, or a girl. She wouldn't listen, and she got subdued. It is really as simple as that. She was not abused, like the thread title states. She was not arrested, she was not hurt. All she had to do was listen, but she didn't. They shouldn't have been there, that has already been established. There was a fight, several people called 911 for the police. Obviously they were a problem. He wasn't waving the gun around, and again it does not matter if they are youths. The two approached him aggressively and he drew his gun. They ran, he put it away. Plenty of youths have committed serious crimes, including murder. You don't think a mob of "children" can cause serious damage? Please. It's not about black or white, yet people such as yourself keep trying to make it one. It is about kids acting like idiots, and not listening when told to leave.
What's the issue?
you're the type of moron that can only see past their own nose. never could put yourself in anyone else's shoes huh? everything in your world is right and anything outside of that, well then, people simple deserve what they get. you're the type of person that always says, well, that could never happen to me or my family. i hope one day you're put into a situation where you have to make a decision where your distorted views of how the world is supposed to work and operate is crushed.
i actually sorta pity people like yourself.